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jlrogers±³© July 25th 04 08:26 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
Bart Senior wrote:
Your temp gauge is fluxuating.

What is the most likely cause? [1 pt]


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Marc July 25th 04 11:44 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
gasket placement prevents leakage through unused screw holes. Check
out http://www.speedseal.com/speedseal.html

On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:35:41 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:


"Marc" wrote in message
.. .
2 things. first , get a speed seal pump cover. 4 knurled thumb screws
and the cover comes off, no tools.



But there's six screws.




Jeff Morris July 25th 04 11:45 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
The Speed Seal doesn't use two of the holes. There are 4 knurled screws, and
two are in slots, so you remove two, loosen the other two, and the cover slides
off. Instead of the paper gasket there's an O-ring that's held in a groove.
Once you have access to the pump, it only takes about 10 seconds to pull the
plate and see the impeller. Putting it back on is more tedious: maybe 30
seconds to make sure the thumb screws are tightened evenly.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Marc" wrote in message
...
2 things. first , get a speed seal pump cover. 4 knurled thumb screws
and the cover comes off, no tools.



But there's six screws.






Marc July 25th 04 11:49 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
I'm in NYC. I don't know if our winters compare in severity. I just
loosen the belts and leave them in place. Tape over the exhaust and
air intake, and spray the engine with wd 40. that , of course is after
the flushing, draining, antifreezing and oil change.

If the cover is an uninsulated tarp, I don't know if there would be
any condensation, but I don't know what good it would do. Your engine
is , after all, in a covered, tight box. Right?



On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 12:55:42 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Well ..... while I can concur with that schedule... I've found that pulling
the impeller when on seasonal dry dock...... I've tripled the useable life
span of the impeller.

I also remove the alternator and belts.Stored warm and dry for the winter.

Do you wrap the engine with a cover while on the hard for storage? I was
told to try it but my first concern would be condensation from the cover.
What do you think?

CM



"Marc" wrote in message
.. .
| Bottom line: If you replace the impeller every season, you get
| proficient in doing it, the bolts don't get a chance to rust in, and
| the chances of an impeller failure diminish greatly.
|
| On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 09:23:23 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| All good Marc... but the face plate faces the engine I believe.
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | 2 things. first , get a speed seal pump cover. 4 knurled thumb screws
| | and the cover comes off, no tools.
| |
| | second, drill out the threaded holes in the pump and weld nuts to the
| | forward side of the pump bracket. Insert the bolts through the pump
| | from the rear , Pump is then removeable without removing the bracket.
| |
| | On Sat, 24 Jul 2004 23:26:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| | wrote:
| |
| | I'm overjoyed I coaxed you into a proper reply to Bart's Question
Jeff!
| ;-P
| |
| | Seriously... each step you illustrated was correct... and I don't have
a
| | gauge so I have to assume a warning buzzer. I've had a few clogged
| intakes
| | in time and a couple of bad impellers.... I concur with your
assessment
| of
| | Yanmar Pumps!
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
| | "Jeff Morris" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | The coolant flow can be checked by inspection almost immediately,
| though a
| | | partial clog can look OK and still send it into Overheat. Certainly
| I'd
| | look
| | | there first if there was any significant change.
| | |
| | | However, if the gauge is moving quickly, like up and down in a
matter
| of
| | | seconds, it can't be a real temperature issue, because the coolant
| can't
| | change
| | | temperature that quickly. I've never had a temp sensor do that, but
| I've
| | seen
| | | it from a faulty oil pressure sensor, and I've seen it from a
dangling
| | wire.
| | |
| | | When my heat exchanger was partially clogged the engine was more
| sensitive
| | the
| | | overheating problems. I could tell within a few seconds if my wife
| turned
| | on
| | | the microwave because the temp would start to creep up. Now the
temp
| is
| | a bit
| | | more stable, but I can't run the engine up to 3000 rpm if the
| alternator
| | is
| | | fully loaded.
| | |
| | | BTW, last week I did have an overheat situation: within a minute
after
| | dropping
| | | the mooring at Kittery, I noticed the starboard engine temp going
up.
| It
| | put it
| | | into neutral and asked my wife to check the water flow - there was
| none.
| | We
| | | killed the engine and went back to the mooring (its sometimes nice
to
| have
| | two
| | | engines!). First I pulled the intake of the pump - full flow
meaning
| no
| | intake
| | | clog. Then I pulled the output hose off and asked my wife to
"start"
| with
| | the
| | | kill switch pulled - no flow. At that point I just pulled off the
| water
| | pump,
| | | removed the cover (damn Yanmar mounted the pump on the GM's so that
the
| | cover
| | | can't be reached without pulling the pump!). The impellor looked
OK,
| but
| | my
| | | wife asked how it worked so I spun the pulley to show her but the
| impeller
| | | didn't spin! I seems the impellor was spinning free on its hub. A
| spare
| | was
| | | put in and we were underway again with a total delay of about 45
| minutes.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | Good Grief Jeff...... if you have a coolant problem you'd check
the
| | belts???
| | | Wouldn't you tend to believe the sensor and simply verify the
coolant
| | flow
| | | prior to questioning your instruments?
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | | "Jeff Morris" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | Oh! The ENGINE temperature!
| | | |
| | | | Even if there is a cooling problem, the engine provides a
| significant
| | | buffer, so
| | | | if the fluctuation is fast, as in you actually see the needle
move,
| | its
| | | probably
| | | | a loose connection on the sensor, or some other such fault.
| | | |
| | | | If its a small engine with a large alternator it could be a
| slipping
| | belt.
| | | I've
| | | | never seen a case where the coolant flow went up and down
| repeatedly
| | but I
| | | | suppose it could happen. Can a thermostat fail in this mode?
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
|
|



Nav July 26th 04 12:42 AM

Seamanship Question #5
 

Bart Senior wrote:

Your temp gauge is fluxating.


Too much calor and not enough phlogistum.

Cheers


Scott Vernon July 26th 04 02:25 AM

Seamanship Question #5
 
Yes, I've seen them before, but like you said, I don't see much advantage
for a Yanmar GMF.

Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
The Speed Seal doesn't use two of the holes. There are 4 knurled screws,

and
two are in slots, so you remove two, loosen the other two, and the cover

slides
off. Instead of the paper gasket there's an O-ring that's held in a

groove.
Once you have access to the pump, it only takes about 10 seconds to pull

the
plate and see the impeller. Putting it back on is more tedious: maybe 30
seconds to make sure the thumb screws are tightened evenly.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Marc" wrote in message
...
2 things. first , get a speed seal pump cover. 4 knurled thumb screws
and the cover comes off, no tools.



But there's six screws.







Horvath July 26th 04 04:10 AM

Seamanship Question #5
 
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:42:18 +1200, Nav wrote
this crap:


Bart Senior wrote:

Your temp gauge is fluxating.


Too much calor and not enough phlogistum.



A little fizor in the conniculater will fix that.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz July 26th 04 05:03 AM

Seamanship Question #5
 
That's what he says to all the boys.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:42:18 +1200, Nav wrote
this crap:


Bart Senior wrote:

Your temp gauge is fluxating.


Too much calor and not enough phlogistum.



A little fizor in the conniculater will fix that.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




James July 26th 04 04:53 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
Faulty spellchecker

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Your temp gauge is fluxuating.

What is the most likely cause? [1 pt]





Jonathan Ganz July 26th 04 05:25 PM

Seamanship Question #5
 
Hahahaha... yup! Either that or he's caught in a lousy
movie.

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"James" wrote in message
...
Faulty spellchecker

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Your temp gauge is fluxuating.

What is the most likely cause? [1 pt]








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