In article , Scott Vernon
wrote:

"Scout" wrote ...
Thom,
AC ranks right up there with indoor plumbing and anti-biotics. No past
king
or queen lived better than we in those regards.

I don't know..........sitting in a pool, naked girls feeding you grapes,
more naked girls fanning with those big palm leaves.........more naked girls
pouring wine.........

Just think of the dentistry they had in those days......

Not to mention anaesthetics and modern surgical techniques. As I keep
telling the idiot greenies, what bits of 21C technology do you want to
sacrifice?

PDW

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:00:28 +1000, Peter Wiley
wrote this crap:

Not to mention anaesthetics and modern surgical techniques. As I keep
telling the idiot greenies, what bits of 21C technology do you want to
sacrifice?


We could do away with cell phones in bars and restaurants, and cars.

Especially those stupid musical ringing paterns.







Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I cannot believe I'm actually agreeing with Horass!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:00:28 +1000, Peter Wiley
wrote this crap:

Not to mention anaesthetics and modern surgical techniques. As I keep
telling the idiot greenies, what bits of 21C technology do you want to
sacrifice?


We could do away with cell phones in bars and restaurants, and cars.

Especially those stupid musical ringing paterns.







Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

there's something to be said for a toothless girl! ; )
Scout

"Peter Wiley" wrote
Just think of the dentistry they had in those days......

So am I! Damn.

Was tempted to say do away with cell phones altogether but.... that's
what I used to ring for help when I had a fall.

PDW

In article , Jonathan Ganz
wrote:

I cannot believe I'm actually agreeing with Horass!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 12:00:28 +1000, Peter Wiley
wrote this crap:

Not to mention anaesthetics and modern surgical techniques. As I keep
telling the idiot greenies, what bits of 21C technology do you want to
sacrifice?


We could do away with cell phones in bars and restaurants, and cars.

Especially those stupid musical ringing paterns.

rules? I tend to think of them more as guidlines.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Man, that's way too many rules!
I better stick with my Ram 2500
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Scott - a question:
Right now my boat is trailerable in the Class C driving sense. If I
wanted
to buy a bigger boat and transport it (using my CDL A lic), how big of
a
boat would you say could be pulled with our Freightliner?

Bigger than you could afford.

I'm guessing the
height would be an issue before anything else.

Take the mast off first.



Still, If I found a boat that
was not in the area, I have access to the tractor and maybe could rent
a
trailer to bring it home.


I don't know where you could rent an appropriate trailer? With a normal
low-boy like mine, (you'd need a cradle) your boat can be 12' high
without
permits. 'Boat haulers' put the keel almost on the ground so the boat
can
be
around 13' and still be legal. Any height (practical to around 16') can
be
transported with permits.
Over 8'6'' beam you'll need permits also. No escorts up to around 12'
6''.
(differs w/each state).
If you're talking about short haul, say within Joisey, you could get
away
without a permit (Joisey permits are cheap [$20]). Don't forget tolls
($90
to cross the GWB). And you're NOT allowed on the NJ/TP. And certain
cities
and bridges have 'curfews'. You can't drive at night. The list goes
on.......

Call me when you find your dream boat.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__



Just a idea - a' brewin' in me 'ead.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Now I remember that post. I thought about using a small window
unit,
placed
in the cockpit using AC flex ducts for the cold air, but so far my
two
12V
fans have been adequate.

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I did a long winded post about a year ago in which I detailed how
I
modified
a window unit (Wal-Mart 90 bucks) to make it a water cooled unit.
2
garden
hoses leave the cabin via flanged hose adapters in the anchor
locker.
It
works very much like the coolant system of a car. A small water
pump
forces
fresh, heated water through a hose to a coil of copper tubing
(performs
the
function of a radiator) which stows with the anchor when not in
use,
when
in
use, it simply lays in the water, hung from the forward rail, to
transfer
cabin heat to the bay water. the cooled water returns to a
home-made
refrigerant (freon)-to-water heat exchanger. The condensate drains
to
my
bilge and is pumped out as needed. I saw somewhere else where
someone
was
talking about bleach in the bilge (and Martha Stewart) -er ah, I
do
that
too
from time to time. It works well.
In all honesty, I'm too lazy to use it too often; only when I'm
highly
motivated by discomfort to I use it.
Water cooled units are available commercially (they are used
frequently
in
commercial hvac work), but they can be pricey.
When I pulled into my slip in Beach Haven last summer, my closest
neighbor
was a retired NASA engineer. The marina owner, who knew the
engineer
well,
asked me to time how long it took the engineer to ask "what the
hell
is
that
thing." It took 3 minutes.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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*In* the V-berth? Where does the water drain? Hot air escape?




"Scout" wrote in message

...
It never moves. It's pushed as far forward as it can go on my
V-berth.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Where do you put the AC while it's running?


"Scout" wrote in message

...
I got the ultra-quiet Honda genny (EU2000). It's light and
quiet
and
has
no
problem with a 13,500 btu AC unit. A bit on the pricey
side
but
a
nice
addition. We only use it when anchored and extremely
hot/humid.
We
leave
the
cabin open as the cool air tends to lay down below, unless
the
mosquitoes
are feeding. The AC is hardly noticeable tucked as far
forward
as
can
be
(5000 btu).

Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
They have small units for $65~$80 at appliance stores.
Problem
as
I
see
it,
many who have AC stay at the dock on hot days.

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__

"Scout" wrote in message

...
What's stopping you from getting one? I would
certainly
have
had
one
if
they
were available in my day!
J. Slocum.

"Bart Senior" wrote
I wish I had Air Conditioning on the boat {snip}

"Peter Wiley" wrote

I don't know..........sitting in a pool, naked girls feeding you grapes,
more naked girls fanning with those big palm leaves.........more naked
girls
pouring wine.........

Just think of the dentistry they had in those days......

Not to mention anaesthetics and modern surgical techniques. As I keep
telling the idiot greenies, what bits of 21C technology do you want to
sacrifice?

Who needs teeth when you have nubile girls to peel your grapes.

SV