You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled, "Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:26:39 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Such complete right-wing bull****. That's all you can come up
with? What an idiot!


He was talking about Salman Pak, you dumbass.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:32:10 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled, "Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

So now you're claiming that the Pentagon is lying.
You're quite a freak.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 20:32:10 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You're the dumbass:

Salman Pak

In a widely publicized September 12, 2002 briefing paper entitled,
"Decade
of Deception," the White House described "a highly secret terrorist
training
facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi
Arabs
receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in
cities, sabotage, and assassinations."

"This facility became a major part of the strategic influence marketing
effort," Gardiner writes. Yet, in the invasions aftermath, the Pentgon
offered no "compelling evidence" that such a site existed.


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:32:04 -0400, Horvath wrote:


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. It goes on to say,
"Committee staff asked both CIA and DIA analysts whether any al-Qaida
operatives or other sources have confirmed Salman Pak training
allegations, and the unanimous response was that none have reported
knowledge of any training."

Sorry, but another terrorist link bites the dust. The full Senate report,
an interesting read, is available at:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 07:20:07 -0400, thunder
wrote this crap:

On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:32:04 -0400, Horvath wrote:


What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. It goes on to say,

What a crock of ****. Where did you make up this bull****?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"thunder" wrote

It was there, but it wasn't a terrorist training facility. According to
the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report, it was used to train
Fedayeen troops for *counterterrorism* operations. ....

That seems reasonable. After all Saddam feared radical Muslims like Bin
Laden. They hated him for runnung a more or less secular state instead of
acting like the taliban. That makes any Al Qaeda - Iraq connection
extremely unlikely.

The most probable explaination for the war I've heard is that outgoing
Clinton staff switched the "N" and "Q" keys in the SW in all White House
computers, causing the village idiot to attack Iraq instead of Iran. Not
that it's very likely, just more plausible than anything Bush supporters
have come up with.

What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm



I can help you on the confusion, I have been there myself. The Liberal's
plan of defense against facts that are not in their favor (most facts fall
into this category) is to say it is not true and say it is fabricated by the
Bush administration, then throw in the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money"
or something to change the focus from the facts. It is a play for emotion
not reason. Reason is one of the things Liberals fear most. When that does
not work, then they yell it louder and have all their friends yell it also.
Next they have the New York Times put it on the front page. If that don't
work then they put it on protest signs along with anti-Bush phrases adding
the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money." But the facts are still the facts,
no matter how many time you yell "It ain't so!"

I guess the Pentagon was lying when it said it found no evidence
of this. Kinda makes all you right-wing wackos look kinda silly,
but that's not unusual.

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
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What a bunch of bull****. I saw pictures. It was there.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/wo...salman_pak.htm

http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...s/khodada.html

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...n-pak-east.htm



I can help you on the confusion, I have been there myself. The Liberal's
plan of defense against facts that are not in their favor (most facts fall
into this category) is to say it is not true and say it is fabricated by
the
Bush administration, then throw in the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money"
or something to change the focus from the facts. It is a play for emotion
not reason. Reason is one of the things Liberals fear most. When that does
not work, then they yell it louder and have all their friends yell it
also.
Next they have the New York Times put it on the front page. If that don't
work then they put it on protest signs along with anti-Bush phrases adding
the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money." But the facts are still the
facts,
no matter how many time you yell "It ain't so!"

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
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I can help you on the confusion, I have been there myself. The Liberal's
plan of defense against facts that are not in their favor (most facts fall
into this category) is to say it is not true and say it is fabricated by
the
Bush administration, then throw in the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money"
or something to change the focus from the facts. It is a play for emotion
not reason. Reason is one of the things Liberals fear most. When that does
not work, then they yell it louder and have all their friends yell it
also.
Next they have the New York Times put it on the front page. If that don't
work then they put it on protest signs along with anti-Bush phrases adding
the words "Halliburton" and "Oil money." But the facts are still the
facts,
no matter how many time you yell "It ain't so!"

Perhaps you would be good enough to enlighten us with some of your facts?


What "facts" provided the justification for the invasion of Iraq?


You can't give us an answer, can you?

I am at a loss to understand why rednecks like you continue to spout
ignorant nonsense, when you already know that you haven't a leg to stand on.


Regards


Donal
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"FamilySailor" wrote
..... Reason is one of the things Liberals fear most.....

Bin Ladin and other extremists despised Saddam for NOT creating a Muslim
theocracy like we see in Iran or saw while the Taliban ran Afganistan. They
plotted to remove him just like they'd removed the Shaw in Iran. These are
indisputable facts. How then can any reasonable person conclude that
Saddam's Iraq trained terrorists who planned to kill him? Only some village
idiot could reach such a conclusion. Reason indeed .....