Last Saturday I passed an Irwin 38
and a Hunter 33.

What an accomplishment.


It takes at least 35+ feet of sail boat to offer me any competition
downwind.

That's a laugh. Downwind in light air your full keel tank will need the
motor and in heavy air everyone else will be up on plane. Go away.
LOL.............
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

In my humble experience, the owners of crab crushers are "all mouth and no
trousers". They choose their boats on the basis that they are incredibly
seaworthy

And like I said, they are all dying to corner anyone walking by and tell them
about their planed trip to Tahiti. Fact is they all wind up just plain dying.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Hey mooron, everyone knows that a full keel tank like yours is slow as ****
downwind. Too much wetted surface. They don't go upwind very well either.
The only thing they are good at is tracking downwind which makes it easy on the
autopilot.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

wrote in message

| Hardly. You don't have enough ammunition and your vantage point is far too
low.

Bill please.... isn't sailing a fin keeler punishment enough?!

Heh... let's do a comparison on both vessels here okay?

I've helmed a C&C27.... it's a very quick boat. It even won the
Commissioner's Cup in Great Slave Lake. The year I didn't race.... ;-)

I am assuming a Mark V.... and you know my current confusion regarding model
years.

Performance Comparison LOA C&C 27 Mark V 26.8

Nordica 30 29.49

LWL C&C 27 Mark V 23

Nordica 30 25

Beam C&C 27 Mark V 9.3

Nordica 30 9.77

Displacement C&C 27 Mark V 4720

Nordica 30 10220

Sail Area C&C 27 Mark V 342.85

Nordica 30 502

Capsize Ratio C&C 27 Mark V 2.22

Nordica 30 1.8

Hull Speed C&C 27 Mark V 6.43

Nordica 30 6.7

Sail Area to Displacement C&C 27 Mark V 19.5

Nordica 30 17.06

Displacement to LWL C&C 27 Mark V 173

Nordica 30 292

LWL to Beam C&C 27 Mark V 2.47

Nordica 30 2.56

Motion Comfort C&C 27 Mark V 15.38

Nordica 30 28.57

Pounds/Inch C&C 27 Mark V 764

Nordica 30 873

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message

| That's a laugh. Downwind in light air your full keel tank will need the
| motor and in heavy air everyone else will be up on plane. Go away.
| LOL.............

Oh.... heck here Loco go see for yourself.
Have a look at the 'Sail By' shot....

http://community.webshots.com/album/69840614isQSVe

....are you always this much of a whiner???
It must be the Club Racer in you! ;-)

BTW - I installed my auxiliary in 1995... it has 560 some odd hours on it.
[and if you start whining about the actual hours.. see the archives]

CM

wrote in message

| Meanwhile, you will also note that my boat's PHRF is generally grouped in
with
| boats with 3 or 4 more feet of waterline than my boat. My PHRF is 168,
what's
| yours? Do they rate you in with school busses and dumptrucks?

More like a train.... I raced with a PHRF of 170.

CM

wrote in message
| So, basically, you are confirming that my boat will effortlessly sail
circles
| around your boat, especially in winds under 15 knots, (which means most of
the
| time) without harming any defenseless crabs.

As long as you stay in the bay and I'm towing my Dory... you might have a
chance!
Not much of one... but a chance nonetheless.

CM

Oh.... heck here Loco go see for yourself.
Have a look at the 'Sail By' shot....

http://community.webshots.com/album/69840614isQSVe

LOL. I see a boat with a full chute and no bow wave. Yea that tank is fast
downwind.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message

| LOL. I see a boat with a full chute and no bow wave. Yea that tank is
fast
| downwind.

Oh so now you lay claim to a bow wave in light air???
What's next... claims of a water ballet in 30kts??

Bwahahahahahahaaaa

CM

Oh so now you lay claim to a bow wave in light air???.

Damn right. If my chute is up and drawing, like the one in the photo your so
proud of, my boat will have a little bow wave and we would be moving. The only
time my boat is not moving is when the chute is hanging.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"