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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
Actually I first read the same statement about 30 years ago almost word for
word. The only difference was gas was supposed to rise to a cost $2 a gallon. You will however see $5 a gallon gas talked about and like the early seventies it may even rise to that but not for purposes of conserving energy. Rather for purposes of raising funds to pay off the, created by both political partys, national debt. You can't tax $1.50 on $2.00 a gallon gasoline just as back then you couldn't tax 65 cents on 35 cent a gallon gas. But give the great unwashed a taste of five at the pump then back it off to $3.00 they will be so happy they will forget it used to cost $2. Just like they did in the early seventies. Call it raising funds to pay bills or call it devaluing the value of the debt or both . . .it worked then and it will work again IF the resultingincome is used to reduce the debt load and not 'spent' as some sort ofmythical windfall like the so called peace dividend or the so called balanced budget with a surplus that never existed (reference the Dep't of the Treasury balance sheet for those years). IF by chance some conservational benefit isderived that would also be nice . ... in fact it might even be used as a supporting reason BUT it won't be the main reason in realpolitik. However I'm now getting near AARP years old so my main concern is, like with most seniors, me. Grandparents and parents didn't care about me and my generation when they could have done something . .. .why should I pay the price? As the Brit's use to say, and may still do so, "I'm all right Jack, Whats yours is mine and what's mine's me own." And that's the true legacy of the USA. M. PS don't brag about those energy conserving sails so much. Remember it was Red Ron Dellums of California that proposed a tax on sail boats because they didn't pay their fair share. Shhhhhhhh......... "thunder" wrote in message news On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:07:35 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote: Right, but the vast majority of our use of oil is for cars. Remember, we have lots of oil in the US. We could be self-sufficient if we wanted to. I suggest raising gas prices to $5/gallon. Give the automakers lots of incentives to increase fuel efficiency and create alternative cars. 65% of the America's oil has already been burned. We could have been self-sufficient, but now? Unless there is a massive and comprehensive energy policy installed immediately, *we* may have oil, but our children will have to live without. http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:25:26 -0400, "Michael"
wrote this crap: Actually I first read the same statement about 30 years ago almost word for word. The only difference was gas was supposed to rise to a cost $2 a gallon. You will however see $5 a gallon gas talked about and like the early seventies it may even rise to that but not for purposes of conserving energy. Rather for purposes of raising funds to pay off the, created by both political partys, national debt. You can't tax $1.50 on $2.00 a gallon gasoline just as back then you couldn't tax 65 cents on 35 cent a gallon I wanted a tax on stupid people, but I found out we already have one. It's called a "lottery." Now why don't we have a tax on lottery tickets? Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
I think that would be great. It would force you to sell your
crapola Hunter. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 22:25:26 -0400, "Michael" wrote this crap: Actually I first read the same statement about 30 years ago almost word for word. The only difference was gas was supposed to rise to a cost $2 a gallon. You will however see $5 a gallon gas talked about and like the early seventies it may even rise to that but not for purposes of conserving energy. Rather for purposes of raising funds to pay off the, created by both political partys, national debt. You can't tax $1.50 on $2.00 a gallon gasoline just as back then you couldn't tax 65 cents on 35 cent a gallon I wanted a tax on stupid people, but I found out we already have one. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |