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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
Well, so do I but it's not going to happen in all reasonable likelyhood.
There's no evidence of something cataclysmic like that. The world economy is relatively stable, certain the 1st world is in economic terms. While there are major problems, India and Pakistan seem to be headed in the right direction, at least not threatening each other on a daily basis. China and Taiwan are not being beligerant. North Korea isn't any more unstable than usual. The US and the rest of the 1st world economies are generally doing ok. What do you base that on? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Vito" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... There is no upcoming depression. That's wacko..... I wish .... |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
A sr economist one step under Greenspan said we (US) is now dependent on
borrowing from Euro banks who could suddenly decide to invest in their own economies and that'd drive our gummyment into receiverhip. "Jonathan Ganz" wrote What do you base that on? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Vito" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... There is no upcoming depression. That's wacko..... I wish .... |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
I don't think that is a reasonable outcome. I doubt he thinks it's likely.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Vito" wrote in message ... A sr economist one step under Greenspan said we (US) is now dependent on borrowing from Euro banks who could suddenly decide to invest in their own economies and that'd drive our gummyment into receiverhip. "Jonathan Ganz" wrote What do you base that on? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Vito" wrote in message ... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... There is no upcoming depression. That's wacko..... I wish .... |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:37:06 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Well, so do I but it's not going to happen in all reasonable likelyhood. There's no evidence of something cataclysmic like that. The world economy is relatively stable, certain the 1st world is in economic terms. While there are major problems, India and Pakistan seem to be headed in the right direction, at least not threatening each other on a daily basis. China and Taiwan are not being beligerant. North Korea isn't any more unstable than usual. The US and the rest of the 1st world economies are generally doing ok. What do you base that on? http://www.dieoff.org/page116.htm |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
Too much reading for me right now...care to summarize?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "thunder" wrote in message news On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 10:37:06 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote: Well, so do I but it's not going to happen in all reasonable likelyhood. There's no evidence of something cataclysmic like that. The world economy is relatively stable, certain the 1st world is in economic terms. While there are major problems, India and Pakistan seem to be headed in the right direction, at least not threatening each other on a daily basis. China and Taiwan are not being beligerant. North Korea isn't any more unstable than usual. The US and the rest of the 1st world economies are generally doing ok. What do you base that on? http://www.dieoff.org/page116.htm |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:51:09 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Too much reading for me right now...care to summarize? Oil, or lack of it. Production of world oil supplies are expected to peak sometime between now and 2025. As oil is a gift deeply entwined in our lives, the future without it will be quite traumatic. Depending on who you listen to, the effects range from the death of a growth based economy, to a population die off. |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
Oil, or lack of it. Production of world oil supplies are expected
to peak sometime between now and 2025. As oil is a gift deeply entwined in our lives, the future without it will be quite traumatic. Depending on who you listen to, the effects range from the death of a growth based economy, to a population die off. Fortunately, the US has lots of coal to make electricity with. Electric motors with batteries will work just as well as combustion motors. It just costs more to scrub the pollution from the coal emissions. Nuclear power will look pretty attractive at that point too. |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
This implies that we won't find viable alternatives between now
and then. There will probably be some severe problems in high population 3rd world countries, but they already have these problems. The 1st world will be much less affected. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "thunder" wrote in message news On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 15:51:09 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote: Too much reading for me right now...care to summarize? Oil, or lack of it. Production of world oil supplies are expected to peak sometime between now and 2025. As oil is a gift deeply entwined in our lives, the future without it will be quite traumatic. Depending on who you listen to, the effects range from the death of a growth based economy, to a population die off. |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:05:36 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:
This implies that we won't find viable alternatives between now and then. There will probably be some severe problems in high population 3rd world countries, but they already have these problems. The 1st world will be much less affected. I'm not so sure. Alternatives? As an energy source, perhaps, but for plastics, medicines, fertilizers, perhaps not. Also, as peak oil is now, time is running out. A little factoid, the US population consumes its entire weight in oil . . . every week. http://www.oilcrisis.com/debate/oilcalcs.htm |
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A place where liberal politics and yachting collided
Right, but the vast majority of our use of oil is for cars. Remember,
we have lots of oil in the US. We could be self-sufficient if we wanted to. I suggest raising gas prices to $5/gallon. Give the automakers lots of incentives to increase fuel efficiency and create alternative cars. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "thunder" wrote in message news On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:05:36 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote: This implies that we won't find viable alternatives between now and then. There will probably be some severe problems in high population 3rd world countries, but they already have these problems. The 1st world will be much less affected. I'm not so sure. Alternatives? As an energy source, perhaps, but for plastics, medicines, fertilizers, perhaps not. Also, as peak oil is now, time is running out. A little factoid, the US population consumes its entire weight in oil . . . every week. http://www.oilcrisis.com/debate/oilcalcs.htm |
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