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FamilySailor July 13th 04 05:09 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Just bought a Reinel 26' for $7500 I pick it up Saturday. I have not been
able to find much information on this boat. The interior is huge!!!! And it
sure is pretty looking.



FamilySailor July 13th 04 05:42 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Perfect boat for you.

Thanks, I thought so too. Have you ever sailed on one before?



DSK July 13th 04 06:29 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
FamilySailor wrote:
Just bought a Reinel 26' for $7500 I pick it up Saturday. I have not been
able to find much information on this boat. The interior is huge!!!! And it
sure is pretty looking.


Congrats on new boat! Have you taken it sailing yet?

There is not much info out there on the Reinell sailboats. It was a
motorboat company that tried to branch out just at the closing of the
boom years of the sailing biz. The boats of theirs that I've seen look
rather unconventional, which is why you'll hear some naysaying about
them; but they look fairly practical & roomy.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


FamilySailor July 13th 04 07:09 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
We may be backing out on buying the Reinel 26'. I have been looking for a
while and I know I can buy a much nicer boat for that price. Although it is
about the biggest sailboat I can find that is trailerable. I have not really
committed to buying the boat (as in no money changed hands and did not make
a verbal agreement). I have a friend who is checking out another 26'
trailerable sailboat for me this weekend. This one is the trailer sailor of
my dreams. Will say no more about it until I have money down on it or pass
it up, if it checks out okay that is. It sound pretty good (as it has not
been seen yet!)



DSK July 13th 04 09:41 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
FamilySailor wrote:
We may be backing out on buying the Reinel 26'. I have been looking for a
while and I know I can buy a much nicer boat for that price.


True enough, but "nice for the price" is in the eye of the beholder. If
it were cherry & well equipped??


... Although it is
about the biggest sailboat I can find that is trailerable.


C&C Mega 30.
S2 7.9
1988-1994 model MacGregor 26

If you hadn't mentioned that price is definitely an issue, I'd suggest
http://www.hankhinckley.com/26top.html

You can still look... sometimes I think this is really my dream boat...


... I have a friend who is checking out another 26'
trailerable sailboat for me this weekend. This one is the trailer sailor of
my dreams. Will say no more about it until I have money down on it or pass
it up, if it checks out okay that is. It sound pretty good (as it has not
been seen yet!)


It's worth your time to check it our really carefully. No matter how
thorough the inspection and/or survey, there are always surprises. But
you can minimize the big bad 'whoops'es... like the time I bought a boat
on reputation (the boat had won a major regatta the month before) &
quick inspection, only to have a minor but very noticable structural
failure about three minutes before the start of my first race in the
thing... learn from the mistakes of others, you won't live long enough
to make them all yourself!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scott Vernon July 13th 04 10:38 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
We may be backing out on buying the Reinel 26'. I have been looking for a
while and I know I can buy a much nicer boat for that price. Although it

is
about the biggest sailboat I can find that is trailerable. I have not

really
committed to buying the boat (as in no money changed hands and did not

make
a verbal agreement). I have a friend who is checking out another 26'
trailerable sailboat for me this weekend. This one is the trailer sailor

of
my dreams. Will say no more about it until I have money down on it or pass
it up, if it checks out okay that is. It sound pretty good (as it has not
been seen yet!)




Scott Vernon July 13th 04 10:39 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"FamilySailor" wrote ...
I have a friend who is checking out another 26'
trailerable sailboat for me this weekend. This one is the trailer sailor

of
my dreams. Will say no more about it until I have money down on it or pass
it up, if it checks out okay that is. It sound pretty good (as it has not
been seen yet!)



Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.


Bart Senior July 13th 04 11:06 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
That's because it is a powerboat.

DSK wrote

There is not much info out there on the Reinell sailboats.




katysails July 14th 04 12:24 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
If you're looking for a good, older trailer sailor, try looking at the O'Day
25. It's pokier than some but it's a good solid boat and is roomy for what
it is.

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SAIL LOCO July 14th 04 12:27 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Reinell 26 ................. never seen one or heard anyone talking about one.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Thom Stewart July 14th 04 02:41 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
I owned one CHEETAH

I'll Give you 3 real problems right quick to look for. If they haven't
been taken care of you'll have a damn wet Bilge.
PROBLEMS:
Keel bolts leak!! I cured mine by loosing each one and wrapping with
plumber string

Tiller post: Only a single upper bearing. The wear causes wear on the
fibre glass tube. I cured mine by adding fibre glass rapping. I never
did add the lower bearing.

Deck leaks on the seam and the toe rail.
Make the caulking gun part a ships company.

One other problem. Not to seriuos. The Hull was done with a Chopper Gun,
Evry time I reached in a hoe that wasn't visable I came back with a
bloody hand. Keep course sandpaper handy to clean up the hidden part of
the Hull

Those are the problem to look for right
off

Thegood things :^) and there are plenty It is a Nice Boat. I've seen 35
footers with the room inside. That seat on the Port Side against the
head bulkhead was so huge I built a back rest 1/2 way out an built a Nav
Station behind it The same thing with the Saloon berth. Moved that swing
out back rest out 10" for a schelf with fiddles on it.

Once I got the Bilge dry I put nylon carpet in the cabin
You'll need one of those "Canadian Screwdrivers" to work on the boat

It's a damn nice Boat, It will sail with just about any of the R/C of
its size and will cruise with the best

It is getting a little "long in the tooth"

A short history lesson about the boat, It was a product of the first
gasoline crisis. All the Power Boat Manufactures made a effort the
provide sailboats. Reinell first attempt was so lousy they gave up on
the building one of their own and hired SUN Ships to biuld the CHEETAH.
It was a low cost boat but it was very sound. It sold so well that SUN
added a foot on it and started building the SUN YACHT 27. Your CHEETAH
could sail circle around it

My kids loved the damn thing----well enough. If I can help you with
anything, post me.

Keep your head low in the main cabin

Ole Thom/ X owner of the first "Pneuma"


SAIL LOCO July 14th 04 03:01 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
PROBLEMS:
Keel bolts leak!! I cured mine by loosing each one and wrapping with
plumber string

This might stop water from entering the boat but what about the keel to hull
joint? I thought when this was a problem you had to drop the keel, clean up
the joint, reseal with 5200 and put it back together.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

FamilySailor July 14th 04 02:30 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.

NO IT'S NOT A Mac26X
I am a sailor, not a powerboater!!!



Scott Vernon July 14th 04 02:36 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
you should change the header then.

SV

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.

NO IT'S NOT A Mac26X
I am a sailor, not a powerboater!!!




FamilySailor July 14th 04 02:51 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
you should change the header then.

Don't know how....



FamilySailor July 14th 04 03:58 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
I thought the keel was molded into the hull and concrete was used as
ballast?



Scott Vernon July 14th 04 04:19 PM

Bought a Reinel 26' or not....
 
I believe you.

SV

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
you should change the header then.

Don't know how....




FamilySailor July 14th 04 05:36 PM

Bought a Reinel 26' or not....
 
I believe you.

Yet another cut from the ASSHOLE



Scott Vernon July 14th 04 09:59 PM

Bought a Reinel 26' or not....
 
hit a nerve, eh?


"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
I believe you.

Yet another cut from the ASSHOLE




felton July 14th 04 11:14 PM

Bought a Reinel 26' or not....
 
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:59:03 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

hit a nerve, eh?


"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
I believe you.

Yet another cut from the ASSHOLE


I think he is way too thin skinned to sail either a Reinel or a
Hunter:)



Scott Vernon July 15th 04 01:10 AM

Bought a Reinel 26' or not....
 

"felton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:59:03 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

hit a nerve, eh?


"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
I believe you.

Yet another cut from the ASSHOLE


I think he is way too thin skinned to sail either a Reinel or a
Hunter:)


Definitely too ''sensitive'' to be on this NG.

'''''SV'''''''


Capt. Mooron July 15th 04 08:32 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
No Scott... I may even be worse..... the Reinel 26 looks and sails like a
power boat.... while the Mac26 won't sail at all.

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "FamilySailor" wrote ...
| I have a friend who is checking out another 26'
| trailerable sailboat for me this weekend. This one is the trailer sailor
| of
| my dreams. Will say no more about it until I have money down on it or
pass
| it up, if it checks out okay that is. It sound pretty good (as it has
not
| been seen yet!)
|
|
| Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.
|



Scott Vernon July 16th 04 09:29 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
No Scott... I may even be worse.....


than whom?

the Reinel 26 looks and sails like a
power boat.... while the Mac26 won't sail at all.



oh my. I've never seen one. Saw a MacX powering around the other day.
Yuck!



Capt. Mooron July 16th 04 05:04 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
| No Scott... I may even be worse.....
|
| than whom?

Not Whom... What!
|
| the Reinel 26 looks and sails like a
| power boat.... while the Mac26 won't sail at all.
|
|
| oh my. I've never seen one. Saw a MacX powering around the other day.
| Yuck!

The Reinell 26 is one Butt Ugly Boat! It's like the Bobsprit of sailing
boats...... and like Bob it doesn't work either.

CM



FamilySailor July 16th 04 07:29 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
The Reinell 26 is one Butt Ugly Boat! It's like the Bobsprit of sailing
boats...... and like Bob it doesn't work either.


hehehehe ; )



Scott Vernon July 17th 04 01:47 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"FamilySailor" girlishly giggled....

hehehehe ; )




Jim Cate July 17th 04 01:49 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 


Capt. Mooron wrote:
No Scott... I may even be worse..... the Reinel 26 looks and sails like a
power boat.... while the Mac26 won't sail at all.

CM

Really, Mooron? And how many hours have you spend sailing the Mac 26M?
None? Then maybe you are full of it when you spout your usual BS
concerning the Mac 26M.

(P.S. - Your favorite anecdote regarding your rescue of the family
stranded on their 26X DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING. It only suggests that
something went wrong with that particular skipper on that particular
voyage.)

Once more, Moron, have you sailed the Mac 26M on ANY occasion? No? -
Interesting.


Jim




|
|
| Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.
|




Jonathan Ganz July 17th 04 02:10 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Maybe he's just smart.

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www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Capt. Mooron wrote:
No Scott... I may even be worse..... the Reinel 26 looks and sails like

a
power boat.... while the Mac26 won't sail at all.

CM

Really, Mooron? And how many hours have you spend sailing the Mac 26M?
None? Then maybe you are full of it when you spout your usual BS
concerning the Mac 26M.

(P.S. - Your favorite anecdote regarding your rescue of the family
stranded on their 26X DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING. It only suggests that
something went wrong with that particular skipper on that particular
voyage.)

Once more, Moron, have you sailed the Mac 26M on ANY occasion? No? -
Interesting.


Jim




|
|
| Oh, no, another Mac26XM owner.
|






Capt. Mooron July 18th 04 12:38 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| Really, Mooron? And how many hours have you spend sailing the Mac 26M?
| None? Then maybe you are full of it when you spout your usual BS
| concerning the Mac 26M.

Are you related to Loco by any chance?? Or are you telling me that because
the "M" is a different 'model' it miraculously evolves into a dream boat????

| Once more, Moron, have you sailed the Mac 26M on ANY occasion? No? -
| Interesting.

Sailed a Mac 19 Power Sailor, a Mac26X.... both of them CRAP! You suddenly
believe that changing the X to an M makes radical performance changes to a
vessel?

CM



SAIL LOCO July 18th 04 01:04 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Gee, Mooron is my hero. He knows a lot about boats. He hates Macs and
Hunters.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Capt. Mooron July 18th 04 01:19 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Gee, Mooron is my hero. He knows a lot about boats. He hates Macs and
| Hunters.

If I didn't know any better... I'd swear there was a hint of sarcasm in your
statement.

CM



Jonathan Ganz July 18th 04 02:09 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Loco, sarcasm?????? nah....

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Gee, Mooron is my hero. He knows a lot about boats. He hates Macs and
| Hunters.

If I didn't know any better... I'd swear there was a hint of sarcasm in

your
statement.

CM





Jim Cate July 18th 04 02:36 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 


Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| Really, Mooron? And how many hours have you spend sailing the Mac 26M?
| None? Then maybe you are full of it when you spout your usual BS
| concerning the Mac 26M.

Are you related to Loco by any chance?? Or are you telling me that because
the "M" is a different 'model' it miraculously evolves into a dream boat????

| Once more, Moron, have you sailed the Mac 26M on ANY occasion? No? -
| Interesting.

Sailed a Mac 19 Power Sailor, a Mac26X.... both of them CRAP! You suddenly
believe that changing the X to an M makes radical performance changes to a
vessel?

----------------------------------------------------------------

Mooron,

You may have a pilot's license, and a captain's license, and you may
have crossed the Atlantic and/or the Pacific, or whatever, but you still
don't understand even the most basic, elementary principles of logic
and evidence. Fyi, the Mac 26M is an entirely new boat incorporating a
totally different hull design, a pivotable mast, and a dagger board,
NONE OF WHICH were used in the Mac 26X or 19.

Mooron, although it's evident that you think you're hot ****, the facts
are that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Jim


Jonathan Ganz July 18th 04 03:44 AM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
It's a piece of junk Jim. Everyone knows it except for a few haplass
buyers.

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www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| Really, Mooron? And how many hours have you spend sailing the Mac 26M?
| None? Then maybe you are full of it when you spout your usual BS
| concerning the Mac 26M.

Are you related to Loco by any chance?? Or are you telling me that

because
the "M" is a different 'model' it miraculously evolves into a dream

boat????

| Once more, Moron, have you sailed the Mac 26M on ANY occasion? No? -
| Interesting.

Sailed a Mac 19 Power Sailor, a Mac26X.... both of them CRAP! You

suddenly
believe that changing the X to an M makes radical performance changes to

a
vessel?

----------------------------------------------------------------

Mooron,

You may have a pilot's license, and a captain's license, and you may
have crossed the Atlantic and/or the Pacific, or whatever, but you still
don't understand even the most basic, elementary principles of logic
and evidence. Fyi, the Mac 26M is an entirely new boat incorporating a
totally different hull design, a pivotable mast, and a dagger board,
NONE OF WHICH were used in the Mac 26X or 19.

Mooron, although it's evident that you think you're hot ****, the facts
are that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

Jim




Jim Cate July 18th 04 09:15 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

It's a piece of junk Jim. Everyone knows it except for a few haplass
buyers.


You're just jealous, Johnathan. The supply is very limited, and only a
few, fortunate sailors have been able to get one of the 26M's.

Jim


felton July 18th 04 09:46 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:15:15 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



Jonathan Ganz wrote:

It's a piece of junk Jim. Everyone knows it except for a few haplass
buyers.


You're just jealous, Johnathan. The supply is very limited, and only a
few, fortunate sailors have been able to get one of the 26M's.

Jim


Thanks:) They say laughing is good for the blood pressu)

Jonathan Ganz July 18th 04 11:23 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Hahahahaa... sure..whatever you say little boy.

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www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

It's a piece of junk Jim. Everyone knows it except for a few haplass
buyers.


You're just jealous, Johnathan. The supply is very limited, and only a
few, fortunate sailors have been able to get one of the 26M's.

Jim




DSK July 19th 04 01:44 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 
Jim Cate wrote:
... Fyi, the Mac 26M is an entirely new boat incorporating a
totally different hull design, a pivotable mast, and a dagger board,
NONE OF WHICH were used in the Mac 26X or 19.


Funny you should mention this. Just yesterday I happened to walk by a
Mac 26X and a Mac 26M parked on their trailers. Except that one was
painted blue, there was not an iota of difference in the hull design.

What is a "pivotable" mast? The rig of the Mac 26M appears to be very
similar to the X. It would be interesting to compare the rig dimensions
and the IJPE of each.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jim Cate July 19th 04 02:56 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 


DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

... Fyi, the Mac 26M is an entirely new boat incorporating a totally
different hull design, a pivotable mast, and a dagger board, NONE OF
WHICH were used in the Mac 26X or 19.



Funny you should mention this. Just yesterday I happened to walk by a
Mac 26X and a Mac 26M parked on their trailers. Except that one was
painted blue, there was not an iota of difference in the hull design.

What is a "pivotable" mast? The rig of the Mac 26M appears to be very
similar to the X. It would be interesting to compare the rig dimensions
and the IJPE of each.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Doug, I don't know where you were at the time, but this was discussed
over and over again, ad nauseum, a few months ago. One of the strings
exceeded 600 notes. The truth is that the 26M has a completely new
hull. Differences include the fact that:

A. The swing keel and the (200 gallon) longitudinal open cavity built
into the hull for receiving the keel (when the keel was retracted
upwardly into the slot) has been eliminated in the 26M, eliminating the
drag produced by the large open cavity.

B. The 26M incorporating a vertically retractable dagger-board instead
of a swing keel.

C. The hull of the 26M has a deep-V forward configuration for minimizing
pitch, particularly when motoring. Thus, the 26X had a much "flatter"
bow configuration.

D. The ballast of the 26X was exclusively water ballast, the water being
let into the ballast chamber prior to sailing the boat. The 26M has
a combination of water ballast and permanent ballast built into the hull.

E. The hull of the 26M has an additional layer of fiberglass, and over
100 additional pounds of resin; chain plates have been added, the
hull-to-deck joint has been modified, and the deck structure has been
modified for greater rigidity.

F. In the M, a traveler has been added for providing greater control
of the mainsheet.

G. The M has an axially rotatable mast, mounted on two sets of
bearings, permitting it to rotate with the luff of the mainsail.

H. Flotation has been added to upper sections of the mast to provide
further resistance to "turtleing." (This is in addition to the
righting forces provided by the water ballast and the permanent ballast.)

Both models incorporate the usual Mac features such as positive
flotation, trailerability, ability to move over very shallow water,
ability to be brought to the shore and beached, etc.


PLEASE NOTE: THE POINT OF THIS POST IS TO CLARIFY AGAIN THE FACT THAT
THE 26M AND 26X ARE NOT THE SAME BOAT, AND THAT THE 26M WAS NOT A MERE
COSMETIC MODEL CHANGE RELATIVE TO THE 26X. WHETHER OR NOT YOU PREFER THE
26X OR THE 26M, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD PREFER EACH OF THE ABOVE
MODIFICATIONS, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD EVER BE WILLING TO SAIL ON
ANY OF THE MACGREGORS, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE TWO BOATS ARE
SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.

Jim


Capt. Mooron July 19th 04 02:57 PM

Bought a Reinel 26'
 

"DSK" wrote in message

| Funny you should mention this. Just yesterday I happened to walk by a
| Mac 26X and a Mac 26M parked on their trailers. Except that one was
| painted blue, there was not an iota of difference in the hull design.
|
| What is a "pivotable" mast? The rig of the Mac 26M appears to be very
| similar to the X. It would be interesting to compare the rig dimensions
| and the IJPE of each.

Amazing! ;-)
Maybe they were different model years?

CM




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