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Bought a Reinel 26'
It's a piece of junk.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Jim Cate wrote: Actually, the ballast was added because of the taller mast, and to provide greater stability when powering without the water ballast. I don't think so. The mast on the Mac 26Ms I have seen (five or six now) look exactly the same as the older model. Can you give some figures? The mast on the 26M is 30 feet; that on the 26X was a little more than 28 feet. My wife & I owned a water ballasted Hunter 19 for 10 years and it sailed fine... in fact we outsailed Mac 26Xs many times in it, and a Mac 26M a couple of times. And when, exactly did you out sail the Mac 26M, Doug? There's very few of them out their, and I seriously doubt that you sailed against an experienced M owner, particularly since most of us haven't had our boats more than a few months. Well, you can make all the excuses you want. Either the boat sails well or it doesn't. Nope. Either the boat AND the skipper sail well or they don't. I can't help it if it appeals to people who know nothing about sailing. I've given details before, but you seem rather dense, so here we go again: I have sailed our Hunter 19 in company with a MacGregor 26M (you could tell by the red hull) several times. There is one in our marina. There are couple others that regularly come and launch at the nearby ramp. The Hunter 19 easily could sail rings around the Mac 26M, in light air or heavy, upwind or down. Actually, it's not so bad going downwind, but it appears difficult to steer with any degree of chop. I mean, maybe it's not really but the skippers sure are working the wheel back & forth. Jeff, this again suggests that you need some basic education regarding elementary principles of logic. - You seem to think that this anecdote of yours proves that the Mac 26M is slower than the Hunter 19. It only provides the experience of one sailor (you). What would be needed to prove that the Mac 26M isn't as fast as the Hunter 19 is for experienced sailors to sail several of each type of boat on several occasions under various conditions. In other words, you have a very small sampling, and you have no external controls, etc. - What's also interesting is how you are getting all that experience sailing against Mac 26M's in view of the fact that there the M's were only introduced last year, and there are very few of them on the water, and further, that they never made a Mac 26M with a red hull. - Very strange, Jeff! The point of my note was not that all the listed features are unique to the Mac, but that the Mac offers a package of features not usually provided in a cruising sailboat of this size. Not really. You just have to know where to look This is what I mean when I say that you know nothing except what MacGregor advertising tells you. There are several boat builders who produce centerboard or lift-keel boats with poitive flotation, you just don't know about them. Do a web search for Etap or Sadler, they build some particularly nice ones up to about 40'. Once more, I never said that the Mac is the only boat to provide these features. I said that not many boats, including those discussed frequently on this board, include such a combination of features. I said that "the Mac offers a package of features not usually provided in a cruising sailboat of this size." And when are YOU going to actually compare them, Doug? - If you did, you would see that the hull shape of the M is substantially different from that of the X. I have. It isn't. How many times will I repeat this? I don't know, it's getting to be pretty dull. You obviously have a head like a cement block. Go and look for yourself... although you should prepare yourself emotionally for a big let-down when you realize that MacGregor advertising is not Gospel truth. What you need to do is to get some old newspapers or a tarp, take it to an area in which both a Mac 26M and a Mac 26X are parked, put the newspaper or tarp UNDER the boats, one a a time, and look up at the hulls of the two boats (instead of just looking at them from the side). You would then see that the hulls of the two boats are distinctly and significantly different and could not come off the same female mold. Jim |
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