ah, quarter berths "as close to the stern as possible" are rather a bit abaft
"the center of gavity". Nevermind, you did mean "center of bouyancy", not
center of gravity.

The salon sole is the most comfortable berth in a seaway, followed by the
salon seats. Next come the quarter berths, and dead last is the v-berth.



On my boat the quarter berths are as close to the stern as possible. I
think is generally agreed the the smallest motion is experienced near
the center of gravity i.e. nearer the center of the boat

Cheers

FamilySailor wrote:
What?


You can become airborne sailing into the wind, while sleeping in the
v-berth
and even the quarter berths, not so in the stern. I used to commercial fish
and I built a 70' longliner (with a stern cabin). The stern is more
comfortable. And, if you are taking shifts at the helm in rough weather,
being able to sleep is a good thing.

Mallet or Yellowstone?

C&O Alleghenny by MTH.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

The salon sole is the most comfortable berth in a seaway, followed by the
salon seats. Next come the quarter berths, and dead last is the v-berth.


The most comfortable berth in a seaway is a true seaberth which the Express 30
has one.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

JAXAshby wrote:

ah, quarter berths "as close to the stern as possible" are rather a bit abaft
"the center of gavity". Nevermind, you did mean "center of bouyancy", not
center of gravity.


No I mean exactly what I said.

Cheers

I though everybody knew that?

""Scotty""

"Nav" wrote in message
...
On my boat the quarter berths are as close to the stern as possible. I
think is generally agreed the the smallest motion is experienced near
the center of gravity i.e. nearer the center of the boat

Cheers

FamilySailor wrote:
What?


You can become airborne sailing into the wind, while sleeping in the
v-berth
and even the quarter berths, not so in the stern. I used to commercial
fish
and I built a 70' longliner (with a stern cabin). The stern is more
comfortable. And, if you are taking shifts at the helm in rough weather,
being able to sleep is a good thing.

And then he'll beat his wife cause it was all her fault.

"""SV"""

"JAXAshby" wrote ...
dude, you are gonna quit the game within a month.



From: krj
Date: 7/14/2004 11:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:

Did you read my post? Getting there was from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
Overnight sail to Bimini (41 nmi) then day sailing down the Bahamas. If
you are on the east coast, you can get to Ft. Lauderdale by day sailing
down the east coast or the ICW. No "required days at sea" unless you
want to sail from say Newport, RI, to Bermuda, then down I-65 to the
Virgin Islands.
krj

SAIL LOCO wrote:

Why do you think Caribbean cruising "requires days at sea"

Well, you have to get there!
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

What?
Hey, the 'f' key is nowhere near the 'k' key.

Don't ask me how it happened. I wasn't there!

really? why is that, yo-yo? the center of gravity is not where the boat
turns, pivots or rotates. but you didn't know that, did you.

ah, quarter berths "as close to the stern as possible" are rather a bit
abaft
"the center of gavity". Nevermind, you did mean "center of bouyancy", not
center of gravity.


No I mean exactly what I said.

Cheers

AS,

I don't like to recommend boats to anyone. You sound like you should
know what you want. If you want stern accommondationss you should maybe
look at the Catalina 34 short rig. A nice sailor with a good size 1/4
Cabin. Better headroom. There are many boats with 1/4 cabins, I'm just
more familiar with the Cat.34.

Ole Thom

I had a similar experience with a fairly new Hunter (believe it was a 420).
Terrible boat IMHO.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Brien Alkire" wrote in message
...
I'll second the comments on poor performance with any kind of wind. I
took
a Hunter 310 out for a weekend at a local anchorage. In 15 knots sailing
upwind there was extreme weather helm even with the traveler eased quite a
bit. Even after putting in a reef the handling was very poor compared to
a
Catalina 30 or Beneteau 323. The 310 is nice for taking my non-sailor
friends out for a daysail though. It's cheap to charter for a day, and
they
all think it's a beautiful boat.

I took a Hunter 420 to Catalina Island for a 3-day weekend. With the
center
cockpit, this thing had a spectacular aft cabin with queen sized bed,
standing room, nice head. But in 18 knots of breeze she was out of
control.
It was better after I rolled in some of the main (effectively reefing).
But
honestly, this much difficulty handling wind in a boat this size? Awful
performance. Also, the roller furling main was a nightmare. Okay, I
suppose it provides an infinite number of reef points. But the sail shape
is horrible, and it's MUCH more work than just hoisting a sail with a
halyard - I don't see the point at all.

I am no expert in sailing. It's possible I didn't have the boats properly
trimmed. But these experiences sure left me with a poor impression of
Hunters.

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I'll second Loco on the Ballast/Displacement ratio.

I used to teach on these boats and we were required
to write up three probelms on every boat we took out.
The joke for these Bent-e-toads was the instructors
put "Not enough lead in keel" for a probelm.

In any kind of wind you are reefing down. Roller furling
kills the shape of the head sail. Offshore, with reefed sails
the leeway is horrible. You are lucky if you get 1 knot made
good upwind.

These boats are for inland and coastal waters where you can
anchor at night.

SAIL LOCO wrote

While we are "OT" (on topic), What are the down falls and faults
with
Hunters? Give me the down and dirty facts. I don't want to eventually
get
my
dreamboat and find it is a nightmare! :-O

Cheap construction. Balast/displacement ratios probably not suited to
ocean
sailing. Interior layout would not be conducive to your Carib. cruise
plans
which requires days at sea.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"