"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Do you deny that you hate my country and everything about it?

Absolutely! What on Earth gave you that idea?

Do you deny
that when presented with possibilities regarding the USA that you'll
always
accept as gospel that which denegrates her?

Yes! I invite you investigate Google Groups. Please look into my posts
around the time of the invasion of Afghanistan. After you read a few of
these posts, I know that you will realise that you have misunderstood my
recent posts. In fact, I suspect that you are man enough to admit that you
have made a mistake. Am I right?




You sarcastically asked if al qaeda had been weakened since the fall
of
Saddam. I gave reasons why the organization had been weakened,

You said, .. and I quote "Al qaeda has been weakened, but only because
they've been kept busy
shoveling ignorant, uneducated dupes (suicide bombers) and money into
Iraq".

Are you intellectually incapable of understanding that you have said
that
you are pleased that Al Qaeda have been diverted into Iraq? Do you
really
feel that they have been weakened?

Put words in you own mouth, Donal, and thoughts into you own distorted
mind.
Do NOT put them in mine. You, it would appear, are intellectually
incapable
of realizing that that was statement of fact, not of preference or
pleasure.

I agree that less US citizens were murdered by Al Qaeda after the invasion
of Iraq. However, Al Qaeda have killed more innocent people in the last 12
months than they killed on 9/11. I cannot understand why you think that
they have been "weakened" unless you place a lower value on Iraqi lives than
US lives.


But then you are so filled with hatred for my country that you
simply are unable to be anything but derogatory.

I would suggest that you are so filled with Republical propaganda, that you
are unable to see the truth.



but made no
morality judgments whatsoever toward the innocents being slaughtered
in
Iraq
vs. those in the US.

Yes you did.

Hogwash. Only in your decidedly myopic view.

You feel that Al Qaeda have been weakened. Yet many more
innocent civilians have been killed in Iraq than were killed in the WTC
incident. Is it anti-American to tell the truth?

If al qaeda's mission was to kill innocents anywhere, I'd have to agree
that
they'd not been weakened. If their goal was to disrupt political and
economic processes in any old country, I'd agree. But it is not. They
(bin
Laden, others) have stated unequivocally that the US is their target. Not
Iraq, not Britain, not Ireland. The USA.

Al qaeda's prime target is and has been the US and its
citizens, by its own admission repeatedly.

I think that you need to do some research, Al Qaeda's prime target is
the
"West".

Hmmm? I was unaware that Iraq was included in "the west."

Huh?



Beyond attacking US soldiers and
US contractors in Iraq, it has been ineffective in that regard.

You don't use aircraft, do you? Anybody who flies on commercial
airlines
will be aware of the effect of Al Qaeda.

I'm well aware of the changes in airline security. How much I fly is none
of your business. But suffice it to say that these same near-draconian
measures have been taken by El Al for decades. Do you consider the
increased security as an al qaeda success? Strange logic indeed, and I've
no doubt bin Laden would strongly disagree with you.





That
translates to weakened. Now, if you'd care to discuss my feelings
toward
ANY needless victims of al qaeda, including OTHER coalition soldiers,
civilians of OTHER countries, and the innocent Iraqis you mentioned,
that's
another matter entirely.

And shame on you for attempting to place blame for terrorism on the US
or
anyone other than Islamic extremists.


Terrorism *is* terrorism. I don't make any attempt to justify the
murder
of any humans.

Did I accuse you of attempting "to justify the murder of any humans?"
Your
debating skills are, um . . . arcane.

You seem to posesss a remarkable ability to discount the death of Iraqi
"humans".

Regards


Donal
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