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I believe there is a restriction on law enforcement that prevents them
from keeping the records of purchases for more than a brief period.
I don't know the reference. It's not important enough for me to look
it up.


You're right. The law forbids FBI and BATF from diverting tax dollars away
from law enforcement to keep redundent records that the same law already
requires gun dealers to keep. Why spend $millions to keep duplicate and
triplicate records? Because catching criminals is a far more dangerous and
demanding pastime than keeping records and filming congressmen with
prostitutes.


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Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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I believe there is a restriction on law enforcement that prevents them
from keeping the records of purchases for more than a brief period.
I don't know the reference. It's not important enough for me to look
it up.


You're right. The law forbids FBI and BATF from diverting tax dollars

away
from law enforcement to keep redundent records that the same law already
requires gun dealers to keep. Why spend $millions to keep duplicate and
triplicate records? Because catching criminals is a far more dangerous and
demanding pastime than keeping records and filming congressmen with
prostitutes.




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Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.


Same folks who faked exploding chevy gas tanks IIRC.

There is a national registery right now that costs taxpayers nothing because
private companies pay to keep it up. The "problem" is it doesn't employ
BATF or FBI agents. Like all good bureaucrats, the Bureaus of ATF and
Investigation want congress to give them each a few $billion/year to take
over that registery and take agents off the streets and put them to counting
beans. "If we had a national registery we could trace any gun found
associated with a crime" they say. That's true - but what they forget to
mention is that they do that right now, every day. What can we expect from
the bureaucrats who gave us the Waco and Ruby Ridge massacres?


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More dead wackos? :-)

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.


Same folks who faked exploding chevy gas tanks IIRC.

There is a national registery right now that costs taxpayers nothing

because
private companies pay to keep it up. The "problem" is it doesn't employ
BATF or FBI agents. Like all good bureaucrats, the Bureaus of ATF and
Investigation want congress to give them each a few $billion/year to take
over that registery and take agents off the streets and put them to

counting
beans. "If we had a national registery we could trace any gun found
associated with a crime" they say. That's true - but what they forget to
mention is that they do that right now, every day. What can we expect from
the bureaucrats who gave us the Waco and Ruby Ridge massacres?




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More dead wackos? :-)


Prolly, but the next dead wackos could well be cruising sailors who have
much in common with landlubbers who simply want to be left alone to live
alone in peace. Randy Weaver was trying to raise a family outside "normal"
patterns, just like some of the people here, but one day a BATF Agent tried
to make him a snitch by threatening to put him in jail and his kids in
foster care - but he refused. That's contempt of cop! So they killed his son
and dog then shot him and killed his wife and we ended up paying him over $2
million to avoid a civil suit!

Everybody is afraid to admit is that the same thing could happen to them.




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2 mil? So what's the problem? :-)

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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More dead wackos? :-)


Prolly, but the next dead wackos could well be cruising sailors who have
much in common with landlubbers who simply want to be left alone to live
alone in peace. Randy Weaver was trying to raise a family outside

"normal"
patterns, just like some of the people here, but one day a BATF Agent

tried
to make him a snitch by threatening to put him in jail and his kids in
foster care - but he refused. That's contempt of cop! So they killed his

son
and dog then shot him and killed his wife and we ended up paying him over

$2
million to avoid a civil suit!

Everybody is afraid to admit is that the same thing could happen to them.




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2 mil? So what's the problem? :-)


Problem is the kid shot in the back and the mama killed holding her baby.


 
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