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"Bart Senior" wrote in message t... Proof that Liberals lie and are ashamed to be liberals. Conservatives? Goldwater was a Conservative AFAIK there are no real conservatives on either side. ****************************** As all of you well know, John Kerry is making conservative values statements faster than anybody can count. He now says life begins at conception. That is not what liberals believe. If you read the historical part of the Roe vs Wade decision you'd know that is not what concervatives believe either. The only people who believe *human* life begins at conception are religious kooks - people with the simple minds of 3-year-olds who have an invisible friend that tells them to think that. He's a friend of gun owners. Liberals hate gun owners. They do??Teddy K is a liberal? His bodyguards carry Uzis! Diane Fienstein has a permit to carry. The real anti-gun cranks are the Methodist and other churches who fund Sarah Brady and other politicians. Follow "deep-throat's" advice - follow the money and you'll see. He represents conservative values, .... Please define "conservative values". To me there is only one: "That government is best that governs least" - the one that gave us the Constitution of the United States. Lest we forget, the people who wrap themselves in the flag and call themselves "conservative" today are in fact the spiritual heirs of the tolatarian theocrats who made even birth control illegal early in the last century. Kerry is doing this precisely because he knows liberalism is a political millstone ..... Yup, for the same reason that no "conservatives" are openly promising to outlaw abortion and birth control - again - even tho that's their adjenda. Contemporary liberalism has been shown to be a failure in social policy; for example, in welfare, crime, and education; economic policy, contemporary liberalism leads to high taxes, suffocating regulations, tariffs, the nanny state, if you will. Then Reagan and Bush are bigger liberals than Clinton or Kerry. Has government shrank under either one? No, it grew! The difference is Clinton made us pay as we go by raising taxes while Reagan and Bush ran up huge deficites for our children and grandchildren to pay. Jeeze, Bush BORROWs more money per year then liberal JFK spent! Do we want a President that is a liar and a fraud? AFAIK we've never had one that wasn't, at least in my lifetime. Do you? I just read where Bush's National Guard records were "accidentally" destroyed. |
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