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Jonathan Ganz July 9th 04 09:34 PM

Permit required to leave the US by boat
 
Perhaps not.

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Next time they fly over have your crew dress in Arab garb and wrap a towel
around their head and then you can talk and visit with the Coast Guard in
person and give them a tour of your boat. You might even get a tow back.

I don't know what the limit on the Pacific Coast is... 3 miles I

thought,
but when we were off San Diego about 200 miles, we were overflown
by a CG search and rescue. Clearly, they knew were there and came
over for a look-see.






Esourcedesigns July 10th 04 06:04 AM

Permit required to leave the US by boat
 
The legal jurisdictional limit is 200 miles offshore. This is the thorectical
limit of the Coast Guard, however the law states that the US governemt has
jurisdiction over all US citizens regardless of their location in the world and
claim jurisdiction for all waters not claimed by other nations. Legally if you
commit a crime in another country or in international water and if you are a US
citizen, the US can prosecute you. If you have any doubts I can refer you to a
former friend of mine that is doing 15 years for a crime he commited 370 miles
south-southeast of New Orleans. The US Coast Guard apprehended him when he
crossed within the 200 mile limit of the US. The government's contention was
that he was witnessed by DEA agents having possession of an illegal drug
although none were found when his boat was searched by the Coast Guard.

Just some food for thought!

Dennis

From: "FamilySailor"
Date: 7/9/04 1:31 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

In Texas the State has jurisdiction out 3 miles. If you are more that 3
miles offshore you are out of the state, but the line for the US goes out
into the Gulf of Mexico until it borders Mexican waters and that is........
not sure exactly, but over 150 miles offshore. The US / Mexican border runs
straight out from where the Rio Grand river spills into the Gulf of Mexico.
I know, because I commercial fished along the line 20 years ago and Mexican
gun boats ran along the line looking for boats that floated across that line
staying by their fishing gear as it drifted. They would confiscate your
boat, gear, crew and you and throw you in jail, until your family could pay
some ungodly $200,000 fine or more, depending on how nice your boat was and
how much they thought your family might have. I would have rotted there.

Not sure how far it extends out in the Atlantic or Pacific. I know there are
no international water in the Gulf of Mexico though.

Sea Yawl,
John











andrew m. boardman July 19th 04 04:37 AM

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Rodney Myrvaagnes wrote:
THis confuses economic or fishing zones with territorial waters, which
are 3 miles for US, although many countries claim 12.


Hmm? Acccording to a boilerplate note on every US chart I've got, the US
territorial sea is also 12 miles. (It was expanded on 27 December 1988.)

Capt. Mooron July 19th 04 03:07 PM

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"andrew m. boardman" wrote in message

| Hmm? Acccording to a boilerplate note on every US chart I've got, the US
| territorial sea is also 12 miles. (It was expanded on 27 December 1988.)

Whoa Nellie..... Canada claims a 300 mile limit! I thought the USA did as
well!

CM



Joe July 19th 04 07:35 PM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"andrew m. boardman" wrote in message

| Hmm? Acccording to a boilerplate note on every US chart I've got, the US
| territorial sea is also 12 miles. (It was expanded on 27 December 1988.)

Whoa Nellie..... Canada claims a 300 mile limit! I thought the USA did as
well!

CM



You Cankkoks can claim the whole ocean, The only thing that matters is
can you enforce it. With the state of your Navy, I would fell free to
run about your terrioritorial waters without risk of being
bothered.....er, unless it's to rescue one of your downed helocopters.
;O)

Joe

Capt. Mooron July 19th 04 09:06 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
| You Cankkoks can claim the whole ocean, The only thing that matters is
| can you enforce it. With the state of your Navy, I would fell free to
| run about your terrioritorial waters without risk of being
| bothered.....er, unless it's to rescue one of your downed helocopters.
| ;O)

Thank Gawd for that... they don't bother us either... no jack-booted
boarding's and Coast Guard patrols the fishing boats...... if I see a
chopper I make certain to stay well out of it's drop zone... those things
fall for no reason at all!!

It's not like we have a big smuggling problem... pot is legal!

;-)

CM



Paul Schilter July 19th 04 09:23 PM

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Capt.,
Legal eh. What a concept. Bet your prisons aren't as over crowded as
ours are either.
Paul

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

It's not like we have a big smuggling problem... pot is legal!

;-)

CM





Capt. Mooron July 19th 04 09:49 PM

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Well not exactly 'legal'... but the courts refuse to prosecute because it's
an infringement on our Charter Of Rights. Courts refuse to prosecute and
cops refuse to arrest. Full legalization is a year or 2 away.... but
heck.... nobody is being arrested.

We're facing all kinds of threats from the USA if we proceed because it
would hold their "War on Drugs" to ridicule! Oh well... here's hoping they
get over it! ;-)

BTW - why is you guys always have to be at "War" about something???

CM


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
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| Capt.,
| Legal eh. What a concept. Bet your prisons aren't as over crowded as
| ours are either.
| Paul
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| It's not like we have a big smuggling problem... pot is legal!
|
| ;-)
|
| CM
|
|
|
|



Capt. Mooron July 19th 04 09:55 PM

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"Dave" wrote in message
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| On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:06:50 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| said:
|
| It's not like we have a big smuggling problem... pot is legal!
|
| And I see your guvmint is even protecting you from the corrupting
influence
| of Fox News. G

Oh Gosh No... I get Fox here on the television. I always wear my American
Flag Bandana when I watch. ;-)

My favourite time was the Black-Out in New York.... Fox was blaming Canada
within 30 seconds of broadcast! It's okay.. we got broad shoulders and real
beer!

CM



Jonathan Ganz July 19th 04 10:02 PM

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We already tried War on Canada. It didn't work out.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Well not exactly 'legal'... but the courts refuse to prosecute because

it's
an infringement on our Charter Of Rights. Courts refuse to prosecute and
cops refuse to arrest. Full legalization is a year or 2 away.... but
heck.... nobody is being arrested.

We're facing all kinds of threats from the USA if we proceed because it
would hold their "War on Drugs" to ridicule! Oh well... here's hoping they
get over it! ;-)

BTW - why is you guys always have to be at "War" about something???

CM


"Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote in message
...
| Capt.,
| Legal eh. What a concept. Bet your prisons aren't as over crowded as
| ours are either.
| Paul
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
|
| It's not like we have a big smuggling problem... pot is legal!
|
| ;-)
|
| CM
|
|
|
|






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