What is the origin of the Dorade Ventilator? [1 point]

The name? 'Dorade' was a famous old time racing sailboat.

Scotty

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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What is the origin of the Dorade Ventilator? [1 point]

1 point for you Scotty

Scott Vernon wrote

The name? 'Dorade' was a famous old time racing sailboat.

Scotty

"Bart Senior" wrote
What is the origin of the Dorade Ventilator? [1 point]

Bart Senior wrote:
What is the origin of the Dorade Ventilator? [1 point]

They were on the Olin Stephen designed racing yawl Dorade

http://www.sparkmanstephens.com/desi...gn.html#dorade

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Cool site, Doug. But you were one minute too slow.

Scotty

"DSK" wrote in message
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Bart Senior wrote:
What is the origin of the Dorade Ventilator? [1 point]

They were on the Olin Stephen designed racing yawl Dorade

http://www.sparkmanstephens.com/desi...gn.html#dorade

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Scott Vernon wrote:
Cool site, Doug. But you were one minute too slow.

No way, I'm on Zulu time.

DSK

Zulu Indiana?

"DSK" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:
Cool site, Doug. But you were one minute too slow.

No way, I'm on Zulu time.

DSK

I just read about Dorade's record run from Newport to
Plymouth. I didn't think it was such a long trip.

I just looked up the distance between New York and
London: 3471

I thought that trip would be shorter and quicker.

If I decide to sail that, I'd need to averaged around 8 knots
to match Dorade's record. My waterline is the same, and
wetted surface is similar. I guess you can hitch a lift from the
Gulf Stream too.

Does anyone have a copy of the Sailing Directions for the
North Atlantic? What is the best route? Expected wind
directions and strenghts.

By the way Doug, my Dad had two models of sailing
yachts that looked like Bolero w/o the mizzen. It
turns out the mizzen was often removed when racing.

Did you see the picture of Bolero on that page you
referenced?

Bart Senior

DSK wrote

http://www.sparkmanstephens.com/desi...gn.html#dorade

Bart Senior wrote:
I just read about Dorade's record run from Newport to
Plymouth. I didn't think it was such a long trip.

I just looked up the distance between New York and
London: 3471

I thought that trip would be shorter and quicker.

If I decide to sail that, I'd need to averaged around 8 knots
to match Dorade's record. My waterline is the same, and
wetted surface is similar. I guess you can hitch a lift from the
Gulf Stream too.

It's still hard to maintain the average unless you deliberately court
strong winds, which is a risky game in the North Atlantic. A few hours
of light air, or wind on the nose, and there goes your hope of making a
good time.


Does anyone have a copy of the Sailing Directions for the
North Atlantic? What is the best route? Expected wind
directions and strenghts.

Well, I have Donald Street's book "Seawise" and he talks about it. Here
are the pilot charts of the North Atlantic, they are in BIG pdf format.

http://pollux.nss.nima.mil/pubs/pubs...html?rid=10499

You can't take a great circle route (unless you have wheels on the
boat). But you can swing well north and come close to great circle while
also picking up a boost from currents.


By the way Doug, my Dad had two models of sailing
yachts that looked like Bolero w/o the mizzen. It
turns out the mizzen was often removed when racing.

Yes, it did nothing except provide a nice place to fly flags & hold the
boat steady at anchor. Maybe shade the cockpit. Nonetheless there was
(still is AFAIK) a rating bonus for the yawl rig, which is why they had
it to start with.


Did you see the picture of Bolero on that page you
referenced?

Oh yes. Beautiful boat. I have a big book of S&S designs that I take
down and contemplate from time to time. The 6-meter 'Goose' is one of my
favorites, too.

Olin Stephens got a big break working with Starling Burgess (an
outstanding genius in his own right) on the J-class 'Ranger.' It was an
unusual design but sailed extremely well... and Burgess agreed to keep
it a secret that the hull lines were done by Stephens. Look for the
replica of Ranger to clean house racing against her sister Js.

http://www.sy-ranger.com/

I don't like the dog house they've added. It ruins the look of the boat
IMHO. BTW the transom of the original Ranger was saved when she was
scrapped, and ended up as a decoration for Endeavor's cabin... I guess
because that's the only view Endeavor had of her

This web site has a small 3-D development of Ranger's lines
http://www.acrossthepond.net/JClassBoat.htm

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I like 6m Goose also. In fact, I like the name also.
Last year I was thinking about picking up a second
old Etchells and restoring it. The name Goose came
to mind at the time.

Did you see the US 108 St. Francis VII? a pretty
ligher, GRP 6M, with some history behind it.

Here is a copy of an article in Latitude 38
in tribute to Gary Mull, it's designer.

http://members.dca.net/pwink/ranger/garymull.htm

Link for 6 meters and GOOSE.
http://www.6mrnorthamerica.com/

Summary of St Francis VII

Boat Name: St. Francis VII
Sail: US 108
Year Built: 1979
Designer: Gary Mull
Builder: Bill Lee Yachts
Owner: Hans Oen
History: Designed and built in fiberglass for the St. Francis
Yacht Club Syndicate of San Francisco to compete in the
1979 World Cup in Seattle. Tom Blackaller, winner of the
1973 Worlds, drove her to second place, behind Pelle
Pettersson in SWE 97 Irene. Two weeks prior to the
Worlds, with Commodore Tompkins at the helm, St .
Francis VII won the 1979 North American Championships.
Tom Blackaller and St. Francis VII also proved superior in
the 1979 Australian American Challenge in San Francisco,
2 weeks following the Worlds, never losing a race in the
defender trials and beating SWE 96 Maybe XII in 4 straight
races in the match race series final. She also competed in the
1983 Worlds in Newport as NHYCUSA II, placing a
respectable 5th of 15 entries.


DSK wrote

Oh yes. Beautiful boat. I have a big book of S&S designs that I take
down and contemplate from time to time. The 6-meter 'Goose' is one of my
favorites, too.