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Bart Senior July 1st 04 06:37 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.

After Kerry blew-off the U.S. Conference of Mayors meeting in
Boston earlier this week, Menino was quoted as saying of Kerry's
refusal to appear and subsequent actions, "This is typical of small-
minded individuals who have to create controversy."

John Kerry has taken some flack over the absence of African
Americans among his top campaign advisors and a "certain amount
of awkwardness," was reported during his speech at Jesse Jackson's
Rainbow/PUSH event Tuesday. Jackson had earlier been quoted
describing Kerry as "the best we have to work with."

"When he was running for Lieutenant Governor in 1982, John Kerry
campaigned against planning for state evacuation in the event of a
nuclear attack. He actually ran a radio ad saying, 'Someone has to
stand up and say 'no' to this madness.'"

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."



Jonathan Ganz July 1st 04 07:35 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.


Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

After Kerry blew-off the U.S. Conference of Mayors meeting in
Boston earlier this week, Menino was quoted as saying of Kerry's
refusal to appear and subsequent actions, "This is typical of small-
minded individuals who have to create controversy."


He didn't want to cross a picket line. He's never crossed a picket
line. He wants the union votes more than the mayors votes. Seems
logical to me.

John Kerry has taken some flack over the absence of African
Americans among his top campaign advisors and a "certain amount
of awkwardness," was reported during his speech at Jesse Jackson's
Rainbow/PUSH event Tuesday. Jackson had earlier been quoted
describing Kerry as "the best we have to work with."


Seems like he would be perfect for the racists who don't think minorities
should be involved in decision making. So, is this a good or bad thing
from your perspective?

"When he was running for Lieutenant Governor in 1982, John Kerry
campaigned against planning for state evacuation in the event of a
nuclear attack. He actually ran a radio ad saying, 'Someone has to
stand up and say 'no' to this madness.'"


Sounds like it was a huge waste of money. Where are people supposed
to go, Canada?

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....



Bart Senior July 1st 04 09:32 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.


Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?


Good point Jon. I should be happy he doesn't show up.


After Kerry blew-off the U.S. Conference of Mayors meeting in
Boston earlier this week, Menino was quoted as saying of Kerry's
refusal to appear and subsequent actions, "This is typical of small-
minded individuals who have to create controversy."


He didn't want to cross a picket line. He's never crossed a picket
line. He wants the union votes more than the mayors votes. Seems
logical to me.


Seems like a lame reason to me.

John Kerry has taken some flack over the absence of African
Americans among his top campaign advisors and a "certain amount
of awkwardness," was reported during his speech at Jesse Jackson's
Rainbow/PUSH event Tuesday. Jackson had earlier been quoted
describing Kerry as "the best we have to work with."


Seems like he would be perfect for the racists who don't think minorities
should be involved in decision making. So, is this a good or bad thing
from your perspective?


So why do you support him? Are you a racist?

I'd keep my distance from Jackson. The guy is an idiot.


"When he was running for Lieutenant Governor in 1982, John Kerry
campaigned against planning for state evacuation in the event of a
nuclear attack. He actually ran a radio ad saying, 'Someone has to
stand up and say 'no' to this madness.'"


Sounds like it was a huge waste of money. Where are people supposed
to go, Canada?


It had nothing to do with money. "Kerry justified not being prepared by
saying a nuclear attack was 'unthinkable.' On 9/11, America learned
planning for the 'unthinkable' must be our first priority. Kerry's lack of
judgment on preparation for an attack at the height of the Cold War calls
into question whether he has the judgment necessary to lead our nation
today in a time of terrorist threats. President Bush's leadership in the
face
of these threats has made our nation safer and more secure."



During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....

She was talking about taking back tax cuts to give more to the needy
zeros.

Full Quote:

"Many of you are well enough off that ... the tax cuts may have helped you,"
Sen. Clinton said. "We're saying that for America to get back on track,
we're
probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take
things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Karl Marx could not have said it better. Hillary Clinton is a communist.

If the people in the communist countries recognize the importance of a
free market, why don't the liberals? Go live in Russia and see what it is
like before you vote liberal and vote to destroy the US.

While there is no better place than the 'leftiest big city on the Left
Coast' to
spout this socialist drivel, this shows why Hillary Clinton is still not
quite
ready for primetime when it comes to politics. Socialist type phrases "for
the common good" don't play very well outside those pockets of liberalism.

Getting back on track? Increasing taxes puts us back on track? Putting
us back on track would be to stop the out of control spending. taxation
is worse in this country than every before--every form of tax is being
levied. In Connecticut, you pay taxes on products you return to the store!
You pay taxes on used cars--when taxes have already been paid on them
mulitple times with eash sale? Why?

The bureacracy is getting bigger and bigger, requiring more and more
money. It has to stop.

Letting liberalism run it's course and we will end up with dead beats
voting themselves more benefits at the expense of productive workers,
and a crippled economy consisting of mainly lower class incomes.

The trend is clear. The middle class is paying for what the Democrats vote
for themselves. Not hte rich. The rich move their money to the Cayman
Island
while working people pay the price.

The liberal politicians have sold out America because the job pays well, and
it
give them an opportunity for graft, and kickbacks, not because they believe
in what they say.

Look at what happened in California, when worker's comp was increased
--2/3 of the industry tax revenue left the state! The world 9th largest
economy
crumbled, and may never recover.

People will not stand around letting themselves be robbed through excessive
taxation. If you want to give, then give. Don't mandate that everyone else
lose
their homes, and what they have just because the poor majority votes
themselves
more benefits.

If this continues, most of the money will leave the US and there will be a
crippled US economey and ghost of a tax base.

What will the liberals do then? Eat each other?

Vote smart. Vote conservative or there won't be any country for your
children
to enjoy, only oppressive taxation, which history has shown, over and over
again to cripple economies. A conservative vote is a vote for freedom and
our future.




Maxprop July 2nd 04 05:39 AM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.


Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?


Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.

Max



Jonathan Ganz July 2nd 04 06:08 AM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.


Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?


Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.

Max





Vito July 2nd 04 01:12 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Bart Senior" wrote
John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made. .....


Y'know you might be right - Kerry and his fellow liberal democrats MIGHT
ruin the country if elected. But what's the alternative? Bush and the other
village idiots running congress are ruining the country right now. Four
years ago we were haggling about using the surplus to pay off the national
debt and our 401Ks were growing steadily. Now we have two concurrent wars
going on, we have people locked down without due process, the surplus was
turned into the biggest deficites ever and our 401Ks still haven't recovered
from the Bush recession. So what do you suggest? Me? I'm writing in
Hillary. She couldn't be worse that Bush or Kerry.

BTW did y'all know she was a big Goldwater supporter? Why'd she switch?
Cuz the Democrat Party is closer to Barry's 'radical' doctern of fiscal
conservatism and government obedience to the Constitution than the
barrow-and-spend religious zealots who took over the Republican party.



Vito July 2nd 04 01:28 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
"Maxprop" wrote

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.


Are you making 10 million a year? If not, then that hasn't been true since
the jesus freaks took over the GOP. Reagan spent more money than any
democrat before him and The Village Idiot is spending far more than
Hillary's front man did. Difference is democrats taxed people making over a
$million a year under the Clintoons but Republicans barrow it, leaving our
kids and grandkids to pay for our not-so-good times- plus interest.



felton July 2nd 04 03:17 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:12:00 -0400, "Vito" wrote:


"Bart Senior" wrote
John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made. .....


Y'know you might be right - Kerry and his fellow liberal democrats MIGHT
ruin the country if elected. But what's the alternative? Bush and the other
village idiots running congress are ruining the country right now.


snip

My thinking exactly. I am much more comfortable with the White House
and the Congress not being controlled by the same party...either
party. When we have that dreaded "gridlock", the politicians are
forced to compromise somewhere in the middle, where most of us find
ourselves politically, anyway. Bush is not a hypothetical at this
point, he is a proven disaster.

I don't know what Kerry could do that could possibly be as misguided
as this administration and I would hate to think what this group would
do with another four years, as they seem to be on a mission to screw
up everything they can get their hands on.

Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:39 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
what have you got against burger flippers?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?


Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.

Max






Bart Senior July 2nd 04 05:29 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing.

The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make
billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they didn't
have the money.

To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers
financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met,
Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then
the whole tech sector, then the entire market.

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.
It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.

Jonathan Ganz wrote
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?


Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.

Max







thunder July 2nd 04 05:44 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:35:27 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away from
you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....


Like some of Bush's tax cuts. In context:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/article/in...2904n_clintons

Jonathan Ganz July 2nd 04 05:54 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
I eat too many of them.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
what have you got against burger flippers?


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's

made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to

"miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Max








Jonathan Ganz July 2nd 04 05:59 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
I'm sorry you lost your job, but your facts are twisted around.
Anyone who takes a dispassionate look at the economy would
see that Clinton did everything he could for the economy, while
Bush did nothing. Clinton lied about a blow job. Bush lied about
WMDs and a war that has brought this country nothing but
heartache and discrace. Clinton never lied about his lack of
service. Bush didn't even bother to show up for his physical.
Clinton may be a sex addict, but Bush is addicted to alcohol.
Good on him that he hasn't had a drink in a long time. I hope
he stays sober throughout the rest of his term, although he
acts like he's drunk most of the time. He's inarticulate and
low brow. He picked a liar and a cheat for his VP, as well
as for most of his cabinet. He picked a guy for attorney general
who lost an election to a dead guy and who annointed himself
with oil.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing.

The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make
billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they

didn't
have the money.

To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers
financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met,
Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then
the whole tech sector, then the entire market.

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.
It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.

Jonathan Ganz wrote
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's

made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to

"miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Max









Jeff Morris July 2nd 04 06:04 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


This has to be the silliest thing you, or anyone else, has ever said in this
forum.






felton July 2nd 04 06:11 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 12:44:59 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 11:35:27 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away from
you on behalf of the common good."


Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take
things out of context isn't it....


Like some of Bush's tax cuts. In context:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/article/in...2904n_clintons


Ultimately every dollar that government spends has to be paid for
somehow, by someone sometime. If you think those tax cuts created
"free money" you are mistaken. When John McCain says that the current
Republican Congress spends money in a way that puts drunken sailors to
shame, that should tell you something about the "fiscally responsible"
party. Besides, unless you are very well off, most of the Bush tax
cuts didn't help you, anyway.

DSK July 2nd 04 06:12 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Bart Senior wrote:


Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.


That may be, but the economy as a whole grew at an unprecedented pace. Don't
forget that there was a serious Bush Sr recession going on when Clinton took
office. If your job was eliminated in the first 3 1/2 years of Clinton's
presidency, then according to many pro-Bush folk it must be Bush Sr's fault.



Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


??? "Greed Is Good" was the motto of the Reagan '80s. Clinton's venture into
Whitewater lost money. It would be a very strange example of corporate greed.




The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing.


Part of Reaganomics, not Clinton's fault.



Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.


You should check out his past, Bart. Do you think his deals with Harken Energy
are an example of integrity? How about his deals with the Texas baseball team?
His DUIs? His military record? His coziness with ENRON which was plundered by
it's corporate officers, robbing many manypeople of their jobs, their savngs,
and their future? Maybe you think his smear tactics against McCain in the 2000
campaign are a good example of "integrity & morals"?

Frankly I cannot comprehend how you think this of Bush.



The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.


Actually, that is not and has never been any part of Democrat policy.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V112/N5/dividend.05w.html

It is however a very common Republican smear tactic. Sort of like the way
Maxprop is convinced that I must be a libby-rull because I disagree with his
caveman fascism.


It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.


Maybe Teresa Heinz-Kerry? She is by far the richest of them, but she married
into it. They say that's the hardest way to earn it, though....

Hillary is a Socialist, greed is not in their nature. But she has wangled a
pretty high lifestyle out of the deal. Billy-Bob is entirely too self centered.
Jesse Jackson would probably be greedy if he could attract more contributions.

So far, none of them have started a war so that their own companies could
profit, as Cheney has done with Halliburton. So far none of them has overcharged
the U.S. Gov't approx 80 million dollars (and counting), as Halliburton has
done. This is not partisan rhetoric, Bart, it is fact.

http://www.halliburton.com/news/arch...cle_121703.jsp
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...2/232434.shtml
http://www.construction.com/NewsCent.../20040123a.asp
http://www.washtimes.com/business/20...1603-4141r.htm
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houst...9/daily45.html

And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Or you can, of course, dismiss all the above as wild-eyed leftist propaganda.
But somehow, I don't think that Pentagon auditors, much less Halliburton's own
news service, are really trying hard to smear mud on the Bush Administration.

Regards
Doug King


thunder July 2nd 04 06:27 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 16:29:27 +0000, Bart Senior wrote:


The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is appeasement,
like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works. It takes toughness
and moral intergirty to look after the common good, not personal greedy so
prevalent in the Democratic Party.



Neville Chamberlain was a Conservative.

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/PRchamberlain.htm

Madelin McKinnon July 2nd 04 07:41 PM

Who is John Kerry? He's a former prosecutor.
 
In desperate need !


If it wasn't for the investigative reports of David Sween, who has
been one step ahead of the effort to frame an innocent man, Scott
Peterson would have been dead and buried by now, just like Richard
Albert Ricci was.

The fact that David Sween is responsible for saving Scott Peterson
became graphically plain recently, when the disgraced prosecution
tried to save the reputation of the incompetent, Detective Allen
Brocchini.

The detective had gotten a call about how Scott dumped Laci in the
ocean on April 19, 2003, a day after Scott Peterson was arrested, but
Detective Allen Brocchini did not follow up because, in his words,

"I just couldn't corroborate it, and I just didn't put a lot of stock
in it."

In retrospect, such a call is consistent with the persistent effort to
frame Scott Peterson, and investigator, David Sween, had virually made
that crystal clear when he wrote the following report:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm


So you see, if David Sween did not methodically and systematically
expose every absurd plot to frame Scott Peterson, the prosecution
might have fraudulently "cemented" the case against Scott early on,
and he may have died in prison, just like Richard Albert Ricci did.

The April 19 telephone call tip that Brochini dismissed is the very
same one that the prosecution has currently embraced, and that is a
clear indication of the fact that earlier efforts to frame Scott
Peterson were discarded because David Sween exposed every fraudulent
effort to "cement" the case against Scott Peterson.

If Scott has a guardian angel looking over his shoulder, his name is
David Sween, and I seriously believe that in the absence of his
brilliant reporting, Scott Peterson would be dead.
_____________________________
this was posted on the nsnews message board and it is worth repeating
here !

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm

Jonathan Ganz July 2nd 04 09:12 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Geez... there are just too many closet gay guys here.
Even innocent remarks turn into this.... sorry, I know
it's one of your fantasies, but I'm only interested in
women.

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www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 09:54:31 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

I eat too many of them.


You eat burger flippers? Are the Gay Ganzy rumors really true? I
always thought it was just people kidding about you.

BB

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
what have you got against burger flippers?






Jonathan Ganz July 2nd 04 09:12 PM

Who is John Kerry? He's a former prosecutor.
 
What the heck are you talking about????


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"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
In desperate need !


If it wasn't for the investigative reports of David Sween, who has
been one step ahead of the effort to frame an innocent man, Scott
Peterson would have been dead and buried by now, just like Richard
Albert Ricci was.

The fact that David Sween is responsible for saving Scott Peterson
became graphically plain recently, when the disgraced prosecution
tried to save the reputation of the incompetent, Detective Allen
Brocchini.

The detective had gotten a call about how Scott dumped Laci in the
ocean on April 19, 2003, a day after Scott Peterson was arrested, but
Detective Allen Brocchini did not follow up because, in his words,

"I just couldn't corroborate it, and I just didn't put a lot of stock
in it."

In retrospect, such a call is consistent with the persistent effort to
frame Scott Peterson, and investigator, David Sween, had virually made
that crystal clear when he wrote the following report:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm


So you see, if David Sween did not methodically and systematically
expose every absurd plot to frame Scott Peterson, the prosecution
might have fraudulently "cemented" the case against Scott early on,
and he may have died in prison, just like Richard Albert Ricci did.

The April 19 telephone call tip that Brochini dismissed is the very
same one that the prosecution has currently embraced, and that is a
clear indication of the fact that earlier efforts to frame Scott
Peterson were discarded because David Sween exposed every fraudulent
effort to "cement" the case against Scott Peterson.

If Scott has a guardian angel looking over his shoulder, his name is
David Sween, and I seriously believe that in the absence of his
brilliant reporting, Scott Peterson would be dead.
_____________________________
this was posted on the nsnews message board and it is worth repeating
here !

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm




Bob Crantz July 2nd 04 09:43 PM

Who is John Kerry? He's a former prosecutor.
 
Brilliantly insightful!



"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
In desperate need !


If it wasn't for the investigative reports of David Sween, who has
been one step ahead of the effort to frame an innocent man, Scott
Peterson would have been dead and buried by now, just like Richard
Albert Ricci was.

The fact that David Sween is responsible for saving Scott Peterson
became graphically plain recently, when the disgraced prosecution
tried to save the reputation of the incompetent, Detective Allen
Brocchini.

The detective had gotten a call about how Scott dumped Laci in the
ocean on April 19, 2003, a day after Scott Peterson was arrested, but
Detective Allen Brocchini did not follow up because, in his words,

"I just couldn't corroborate it, and I just didn't put a lot of stock
in it."

In retrospect, such a call is consistent with the persistent effort to
frame Scott Peterson, and investigator, David Sween, had virually made
that crystal clear when he wrote the following report:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm


So you see, if David Sween did not methodically and systematically
expose every absurd plot to frame Scott Peterson, the prosecution
might have fraudulently "cemented" the case against Scott early on,
and he may have died in prison, just like Richard Albert Ricci did.

The April 19 telephone call tip that Brochini dismissed is the very
same one that the prosecution has currently embraced, and that is a
clear indication of the fact that earlier efforts to frame Scott
Peterson were discarded because David Sween exposed every fraudulent
effort to "cement" the case against Scott Peterson.

If Scott has a guardian angel looking over his shoulder, his name is
David Sween, and I seriously believe that in the absence of his
brilliant reporting, Scott Peterson would be dead.
_____________________________
this was posted on the nsnews message board and it is worth repeating
here !

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm




Bob Crantz July 2nd 04 09:45 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Obviously all wide eyed leftist propaganda you're spewing!



"DSK" wrote in message
...
Bart Senior wrote:


Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.


That may be, but the economy as a whole grew at an unprecedented pace.

Don't
forget that there was a serious Bush Sr recession going on when Clinton

took
office. If your job was eliminated in the first 3 1/2 years of Clinton's
presidency, then according to many pro-Bush folk it must be Bush Sr's

fault.



Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


??? "Greed Is Good" was the motto of the Reagan '80s. Clinton's venture

into
Whitewater lost money. It would be a very strange example of corporate

greed.




The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies.

The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing.


Part of Reaganomics, not Clinton's fault.



Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.


You should check out his past, Bart. Do you think his deals with Harken

Energy
are an example of integrity? How about his deals with the Texas baseball

team?
His DUIs? His military record? His coziness with ENRON which was plundered

by
it's corporate officers, robbing many manypeople of their jobs, their

savngs,
and their future? Maybe you think his smear tactics against McCain in the

2000
campaign are a good example of "integrity & morals"?

Frankly I cannot comprehend how you think this of Bush.



The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.


Actually, that is not and has never been any part of Democrat policy.

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V112/N5/dividend.05w.html

It is however a very common Republican smear tactic. Sort of like the way
Maxprop is convinced that I must be a libby-rull because I disagree with

his
caveman fascism.


It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.


Maybe Teresa Heinz-Kerry? She is by far the richest of them, but she

married
into it. They say that's the hardest way to earn it, though....

Hillary is a Socialist, greed is not in their nature. But she has wangled

a
pretty high lifestyle out of the deal. Billy-Bob is entirely too self

centered.
Jesse Jackson would probably be greedy if he could attract more

contributions.

So far, none of them have started a war so that their own companies could
profit, as Cheney has done with Halliburton. So far none of them has

overcharged
the U.S. Gov't approx 80 million dollars (and counting), as Halliburton

has
done. This is not partisan rhetoric, Bart, it is fact.

http://www.halliburton.com/news/arch...cle_121703.jsp
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...2/232434.shtml
http://www.construction.com/NewsCent.../20040123a.asp
http://www.washtimes.com/business/20...1603-4141r.htm
http://houston.bizjournals.com/houst...9/daily45.html

And this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Or you can, of course, dismiss all the above as wild-eyed leftist

propaganda.
But somehow, I don't think that Pentagon auditors, much less Halliburton's

own
news service, are really trying hard to smear mud on the Bush

Administration.

Regards
Doug King




Martin Baxter July 2nd 04 11:44 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
thunder wrote:



Neville Chamberlain was a Conservative.


Now don't go pointing out facts to the zealots, likely to cause
apoplexy.

Cheers\
Marty

Horvath July 3rd 04 01:20 AM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:12:07 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Geez... there are just too many closet gay guys here.
Even innocent remarks turn into this.... sorry, I know
it's one of your fantasies, but I'm only interested in
women.


Women with penises.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Madelin McKinnon July 3rd 04 03:48 AM

Who is John Kerry? He's a former prosecutor.
 
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message link.net...
Brilliantly insightful!



"Madelin McKinnon" wrote in message
om...
In desperate need !


If it wasn't for the investigative reports of David Sween, who has
been one step ahead of the effort to frame an innocent man, Scott
Peterson would have been dead and buried by now, just like Richard
Albert Ricci was.

The fact that David Sween is responsible for saving Scott Peterson
became graphically plain recently, when the disgraced prosecution
tried to save the reputation of the incompetent, Detective Allen
Brocchini.

The detective had gotten a call about how Scott dumped Laci in the
ocean on April 19, 2003, a day after Scott Peterson was arrested, but
Detective Allen Brocchini did not follow up because, in his words,

"I just couldn't corroborate it, and I just didn't put a lot of stock
in it."

In retrospect, such a call is consistent with the persistent effort to
frame Scott Peterson, and investigator, David Sween, had virually made
that crystal clear when he wrote the following report:

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm


So you see, if David Sween did not methodically and systematically
expose every absurd plot to frame Scott Peterson, the prosecution
might have fraudulently "cemented" the case against Scott early on,
and he may have died in prison, just like Richard Albert Ricci did.

The April 19 telephone call tip that Brochini dismissed is the very
same one that the prosecution has currently embraced, and that is a
clear indication of the fact that earlier efforts to frame Scott
Peterson were discarded because David Sween exposed every fraudulent
effort to "cement" the case against Scott Peterson.

If Scott has a guardian angel looking over his shoulder, his name is
David Sween, and I seriously believe that in the absence of his
brilliant reporting, Scott Peterson would be dead.
_____________________________
this was posted on the nsnews message board and it is worth repeating
here !

http://www.geocities.com/botenth/scott.htm



i love the 'unanimous jury' link

Joe July 3rd 04 04:58 AM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
"Bart Senior" wrote in message et...
Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing.


Who did you work for JDS ?

Joe



The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make
billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they didn't
have the money.

To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers
financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met,
Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then
the whole tech sector, then the entire market.

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.
It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.

Jonathan Ganz wrote
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message


John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Max





Bart Senior July 3rd 04 05:19 AM

Who is John Kerry? He's a former prosecutor.
 
Everyone knows who killed Laci Peterson.

It was John Kerry.

See how much fun it is to lie like a liberal!

Madelin McKinnon wrote
In desperate need !


If it wasn't for the investigative reports of David Sween, who has
been one step ahead of the effort to frame an innocent man, Scott
Peterson would have been dead and buried by now, just like Richard
Albert Ricci was.




Capt. Mooron July 4th 04 12:10 AM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Bwahahahahahahahaaaa...... explains a lot about you Horvat!!

"Horvath" confessed in message

| Women with penises.




Maxprop July 6th 04 02:37 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


Don't yell at me, Bart. You're preaching to the choir here. A (perhaps
"the") major job loss factor is NAFTA, which was supported by and signed
into law by WJClinton. And yes, Whitewater paved the way for unrepentant
corporate greed. Odd how the current crop of know-nothing liberals blame
Bush for all the above.


snip

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.


This seems to have been conveniently forgotten by the left. His eleventh
hour pardons were legendary in terms of corporate greed, political payoffs,
and criminal non-accountability.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.


I might have to disagree a bit here. Bush is a politician first, foremost.
Politicians want to keep their jobs, and integrity and moral fiber really
play an almost invisible role in politics. Money is the moving force in
politics, and money doesn't find itself into one's coffers through integrity
and morality. Bush and Kerry make the same promises to funds providers. No
difference.

snip


Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.


You could also field such a list on the right side of the aisle.

My comment to Jon's question was that Hillary was referring to taking away
our tax cuts, which the dems purport were only for the very rich. Of course
John Kerry and his wife should have benefited about as much as anyone,
considering they are probably among the top 500 richest folks in the world,
if the dems are correct in their accusations.

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 02:55 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

I'm sorry you lost your job, but your facts are twisted around.
Anyone who takes a dispassionate look at the economy would
see that Clinton did everything he could for the economy, while
Bush did nothing.


Clinton supported and signed NAFTA: job losses to Canada and Mexico. The
UAW lost over half a million potential and/or real jobs, for example.

Most 20th Century presidents have supported most favored nation trade status
with China. Where do most of the low-tech goods we buy come from? One
guess.

Bush inherited the economic slide that was well into the down curve during
Clinton's last year in office. Bush also inherited 9/11, which did more to
tank the economy than any other factor in the past four years. Bush gave
tax cuts, which are the right thing to do, not to mention at least party
responsible for the economic upturn.

Get your facts straight, Jon. You're spouting liberal diatribe, not facts.

Clinton lied about a blow job. Bush lied about
WMDs


You cannot provide one scintilla of evidence that he lied about WMDs. He
was wrong, yes. He was probably misinformed, yes. He probably told his
intel providers that he wanted a reason for attacking Iraq, yes. But he
lied? Show me the evidence, not just your left-wing dogmatic opinion.

and a war that has brought this country nothing but
heartache and discrace.


This may be true. The final chapter isn't written yet, but my guess is that
you're assessment will be correct.

Clinton never lied about his lack of
service. Bush didn't even bother to show up for his physical.
Clinton may be a sex addict, but Bush is addicted to alcohol.


So, a recovered alcoholic is not worthy of anything?

Good on him that he hasn't had a drink in a long time. I hope
he stays sober throughout the rest of his term, although he
acts like he's drunk most of the time. He's inarticulate and
low brow.


He is most certainly inarticulate. Low brow? Hmmm. I'm unaware of anyone
with his balance sheet that would be considered "low brow."

He picked a liar and a cheat for his VP,


Agreed. I strongly dislike Cheney. W should have dumped him this go-round.

as well
as for most of his cabinet. He picked a guy for attorney general
who lost an election to a dead guy and who annointed himself
with oil.


Again agreed. John Ashcroft is a megalomaniac. He doesn't serve the
people, rather himself and his boss.

Bart compared Clinton with Bush and proposed that W was more moral and given
to greater integrity than WJC. I think they both lack those qualities, but
in different areas. They are, after all else, politicians.

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 02:57 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


This has to be the silliest thing you, or anyone else, has ever said in

this
forum.


Really? Unaccountable corporate greed and malfeasance play no role in their
perpetuation? On what planet do you reside?

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 03:01 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"DSK" wrote in message

It is however a very common Republican smear tactic. Sort of like the way
Maxprop is convinced that I must be a libby-rull because I disagree with

his
caveman fascism.


LOL. I am convinced you are a liberal because you are. Simple, concise,
and to the point. Denial, OTOH, is your bailiwick.

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 03:02 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"felton" wrote in message


My thinking exactly. I am much more comfortable with the White House
and the Congress not being controlled by the same party...either
party.


Amen.

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 03:06 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Vito" wrote in message
"Maxprop" wrote

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....


Like money. More and more of our money.


Are you making 10 million a year? If not, then that hasn't been true since
the jesus freaks took over the GOP. Reagan spent more money than any
democrat before him and The Village Idiot is spending far more than
Hillary's front man did. Difference is democrats taxed people making over

a
$million a year under the Clintoons but Republicans barrow it, leaving our
kids and grandkids to pay for our not-so-good times- plus interest.


I have no idea what your point is, Vito, but my point was that Hillary said
she would take some things away from us, and she meant the tax cuts. I pay
less tax now under the current law than I did prior to the cuts. Simple,
actually.

Max



Maxprop July 6th 04 03:09 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"felton" wrote in message


Ultimately every dollar that government spends has to be paid for
somehow, by someone sometime.


Not really--those dollars just add to the runaway federal debt. But your
point is valid: if tax cuts are given, spending should also be cut. A
simple premise, really, but seemingly forgotten by everyone in Washington,
including democrats.

If you think those tax cuts created
"free money" you are mistaken. When John McCain says that the current
Republican Congress spends money in a way that puts drunken sailors to
shame, that should tell you something about the "fiscally responsible"
party. Besides, unless you are very well off, most of the Bush tax
cuts didn't help you, anyway.


They helped me, and I don't consider myself among the ultra-rich, as the
dems purport were the only beneficiaries.

Max



Jonathan Ganz July 6th 04 03:47 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Clinton supported NAFTA, as well as most did most economists.
It's been good for the US. You now claim to be anti-free trade,
except when it suits you of course?

What's the problem with China? I don't get the connection between
China and Clinton-bashing.

Bush inherited an economy that didn't need a tax cut, that didn't needed
to be pushed into a recession. Thanks Bush. The US lost millions of jobs
because of him. Thanks for nothing. I don't see him reversing NAFTA
if that's what the problem was. Max, get your facts straight before slam
me for telling the truth. Bush lied about Iraq, about WMDs, and pretty
much abdicated the search for Usama. Instead of putting in 100,000
troops in Afganistan, he put in 10K. He sent the 100K to Iraq, a
country that had no WMDs and was contained.

Oh, I forgot. Clinton lied about a blow job, and the ensuing right-wing
fueled witchhunt cost us $70 million. Too bad because I'm sure Henry
Hyde could have paid a hooker $70 or less and got the same thing.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

I'm sorry you lost your job, but your facts are twisted around.
Anyone who takes a dispassionate look at the economy would
see that Clinton did everything he could for the economy, while
Bush did nothing.


Clinton supported and signed NAFTA: job losses to Canada and Mexico. The
UAW lost over half a million potential and/or real jobs, for example.

Most 20th Century presidents have supported most favored nation trade

status
with China. Where do most of the low-tech goods we buy come from? One
guess.

Bush inherited the economic slide that was well into the down curve during
Clinton's last year in office. Bush also inherited 9/11, which did more

to
tank the economy than any other factor in the past four years. Bush gave
tax cuts, which are the right thing to do, not to mention at least party
responsible for the economic upturn.

Get your facts straight, Jon. You're spouting liberal diatribe, not

facts.

Clinton lied about a blow job. Bush lied about
WMDs


You cannot provide one scintilla of evidence that he lied about WMDs. He
was wrong, yes. He was probably misinformed, yes. He probably told his
intel providers that he wanted a reason for attacking Iraq, yes. But he
lied? Show me the evidence, not just your left-wing dogmatic opinion.

and a war that has brought this country nothing but
heartache and discrace.


This may be true. The final chapter isn't written yet, but my guess is

that
you're assessment will be correct.

Clinton never lied about his lack of
service. Bush didn't even bother to show up for his physical.
Clinton may be a sex addict, but Bush is addicted to alcohol.


So, a recovered alcoholic is not worthy of anything?

Good on him that he hasn't had a drink in a long time. I hope
he stays sober throughout the rest of his term, although he
acts like he's drunk most of the time. He's inarticulate and
low brow.


He is most certainly inarticulate. Low brow? Hmmm. I'm unaware of

anyone
with his balance sheet that would be considered "low brow."

He picked a liar and a cheat for his VP,


Agreed. I strongly dislike Cheney. W should have dumped him this

go-round.

as well
as for most of his cabinet. He picked a guy for attorney general
who lost an election to a dead guy and who annointed himself
with oil.


Again agreed. John Ashcroft is a megalomaniac. He doesn't serve the
people, rather himself and his boss.

Bart compared Clinton with Bush and proposed that W was more moral and

given
to greater integrity than WJC. I think they both lack those qualities,

but
in different areas. They are, after all else, politicians.

Max





Jonathan Ganz July 6th 04 03:49 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Whitewater????? HAahahahahahaha... Clinton lost money you idiot.
Ken Lay, a great friend of GWB made just a couple of bucks I heard.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


Don't yell at me, Bart. You're preaching to the choir here. A (perhaps
"the") major job loss factor is NAFTA, which was supported by and signed
into law by WJClinton. And yes, Whitewater paved the way for unrepentant
corporate greed. Odd how the current crop of know-nothing liberals blame
Bush for all the above.


snip

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.


This seems to have been conveniently forgotten by the left. His eleventh
hour pardons were legendary in terms of corporate greed, political

payoffs,
and criminal non-accountability.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.


I might have to disagree a bit here. Bush is a politician first,

foremost.
Politicians want to keep their jobs, and integrity and moral fiber really
play an almost invisible role in politics. Money is the moving force in
politics, and money doesn't find itself into one's coffers through

integrity
and morality. Bush and Kerry make the same promises to funds providers.

No
difference.

snip


Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.


You could also field such a list on the right side of the aisle.

My comment to Jon's question was that Hillary was referring to taking away
our tax cuts, which the dems purport were only for the very rich. Of

course
John Kerry and his wife should have benefited about as much as anyone,
considering they are probably among the top 500 richest folks in the

world,
if the dems are correct in their accusations.

Max





Jonathan Ganz July 6th 04 03:50 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Simply stupid. So you pay less. Good for you. Except... you obviously
don't give a **** about anyone else. Bush has been bad for the US in
many, many ways.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Vito" wrote in message
"Maxprop" wrote

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to

take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.


Are you making 10 million a year? If not, then that hasn't been true

since
the jesus freaks took over the GOP. Reagan spent more money than any
democrat before him and The Village Idiot is spending far more than
Hillary's front man did. Difference is democrats taxed people making

over
a
$million a year under the Clintoons but Republicans barrow it, leaving

our
kids and grandkids to pay for our not-so-good times- plus interest.


I have no idea what your point is, Vito, but my point was that Hillary

said
she would take some things away from us, and she meant the tax cuts. I

pay
less tax now under the current law than I did prior to the cuts. Simple,
actually.

Max





Jonathan Ganz July 6th 04 03:50 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
Good for you. In that case, you should be voting for Kerry.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"felton" wrote in message


My thinking exactly. I am much more comfortable with the White House
and the Congress not being controlled by the same party...either
party.


Amen.

Max





Bart Senior July 6th 04 03:57 PM

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 
It's true. What about all the pardons?

Bank fraud, financial crimes, and major drug dealing make
up the bulk of the list. Al Capone would have made the
list if he was alive.

Pay off President Clinton and you get a "get out of jail free
card."

It is the worst sort of corruption.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/...linton.pardon/

List of criminals
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm


Maxprop wrote

"Jeff Morris" wrote


"Bart Senior" wrote
The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


This has to be the silliest thing you, or anyone else, has ever said in

this
forum.


Really? Unaccountable corporate greed and malfeasance play no role in

their
perpetuation? On what planet do you reside?

Max





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