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Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Scout" wrote in message But he wasn't fired, he quit. He connected with the kids, but not the adults, and not just the teachers. The early / late complaint came from the janitor, not sour-grapes teachers. Scout I believe I did say that Jaime quit. I haven't seen the movie, rather was paraphrasing what I'd heard on the radio. And we all know how Hollywood loves to embellish and exaggerate, leading one to conclude that the movie may or may not be accurately factual. My guess is that the moviemaker would be reluctant to take the NEA to task. I'm still looking for the real story. Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Obviously, you don't read very well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton On the rest, you're completely WRONG. Another Ganzian, all-encompassing rebuttal. Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Horvath" wrote in message I heard on the radio that if Edwards becomes V.P. he plans to sue Iraq to recover the cost of the war. Ya know, I think I like that idea. Of course he may also sue anyone who votes against him. His nature, and all that . . . Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "DSK" wrote in message Scout wrote: Max, the first thing wrong with this anecdote is that is begins with, "An attorney on the radio last week related a story . . . " There are so many things that sound fishy with this story, that I'd need to see something verifiable. Oh, it's easily verifiable. It's the movie "Stand and Deliver," the name of the teacher is the same as the first name of the actor. It's nice to see Maxprop trying to back up his statements with at least some form of near-fact. Why thanks, Doug. In your arrogant and derogatory way, you've paid me a backhanded compliment. Arrogance only exists in the eye of the underling - so I won't question your use of the word "arrogant". However I'm confused by your accusation that Doug was derogatory. Can you clear this up for me, please? Regards Donal -- |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
DSK wrote in message ...
I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then they get out there and vote, dammit! DSK I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard. But Im still going to vote for Bush. Joe |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap: My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. If the teachers don't like it, it must be good. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
So, you didn't bother to read it. Got it.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Obviously, you don't read very well... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton On the rest, you're completely WRONG. Another Ganzian, all-encompassing rebuttal. Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
I'll bet you were the teacher's pet.
Scout "Horvath" wrote in message ... On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote this crap: My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. If the teachers don't like it, it must be good. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
The truth is that it makes teaching easier. Just teach the kids the answer
to the test. Why bother with writing out the questions? The answers that will make the president happy a A,C,D,C,A,D, ~ MR. HORVATH, PLEASE take your finger OUT of your nose thank you - C,B,B,C,B. Shall we review again? Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... I voted for Bush, even though I'm a reg democrat. But I'll tell you this much: he doesn't know **** about education, other than how to make a bad situation worse. He's good at making voters feel like he is doing something to improve things (no child left behind), but as funny as it sounds, teachers are not the problem with the system (please remember that I'm coming from a background in private industry, teaching is a second career). Beating up teachers won't fix what's wrong with America's schools. He needs to think about solving problems for America's families. I just met with two educators from Texas, where Bush's educational plan has been in place for many years. Here's what I said when I walked out of the meeting: Jesus. Bush doesn't seem to understand that education is a two way street, and that parental involvement is critical for the vast majority of kids. Unless you can get the parents to partner up with the teachers, you're just blowing smoke up the taxpayers collective ass. I'm wondering when Bush will pass the "no child left out of the war" act. Scout "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... Fine, write me a check. Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine. Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light for corporate greed to go crazy. The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected $9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing. The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they didn't have the money. To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met, Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then the whole tech sector, then the entire market. If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off. Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals, things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party. The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works. It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party. Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party. The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Kerry. Jonathan Ganz wrote I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job. I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite him, they're starting to come back. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Comments interspersed... "Bart Senior" wrote in message John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made. Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing? Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss" votes. During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take things out of context isn't it.... Like money. More and more of our money. Max |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:12:39 -0400, DSK wrote
this crap: At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an entertainer, not a journalist' He still does. and said that he just made stuff up because it was easier than doing research. That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research. He also said that most of his audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine. That's bull****, too. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
Funds or not, it's a stupid idea that won;t work.
Sv "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... You're right. It doesn't. One reason it doesn't is that it's not been funded. It was a great idea, but without actually allocating the funds, it's less than worthless. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... I voted for Bush, even though I'm a reg democrat. But I'll tell you this much: he doesn't know **** about education, other than how to make a bad situation worse. He's good at making voters feel like he is doing something to improve things (no child left behind), but as funny as it sounds, teachers are not the problem with the system (please remember that I'm coming from a background in private industry, teaching is a second career). Beating up teachers won't fix what's wrong with America's schools. He needs to think about solving problems for America's families. I just met with two educators from Texas, where Bush's educational plan has been in place for many years. Here's what I said when I walked out of the meeting: Jesus. Bush doesn't seem to understand that education is a two way street, and that parental involvement is critical for the vast majority of kids. Unless you can get the parents to partner up with the teachers, you're just blowing smoke up the taxpayers collective ass. I'm wondering when Bush will pass the "no child left out of the war" act. Scout "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... Fine, write me a check. Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine. Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light for corporate greed to go crazy. The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected $9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing. The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they didn't have the money. To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met, Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then the whole tech sector, then the entire market. If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off. Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals, things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party. The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works. It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party. Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party. The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Kerry. Jonathan Ganz wrote I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job. I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite him, they're starting to come back. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Comments interspersed... "Bart Senior" wrote in message John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made. Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing? Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss" votes. During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take things out of context isn't it.... Like money. More and more of our money. Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
Lisa is teaching Summer school, or whatever they call it now, for Reading
SD. SV "Scout" wrote in message ... Some school districts (not the unions) are telling the feds to shove their money. They'd rather do without then play that game. Reading (PA) SD is suing the state over what it sees as inequities in the law. Scout http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0211/p01s02-ussc.html "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... You're right. It doesn't. One reason it doesn't is that it's not been funded. It was a great idea, but without actually allocating the funds, it's less than worthless. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... I voted for Bush, even though I'm a reg democrat. But I'll tell you this much: he doesn't know **** about education, other than how to make a bad situation worse. He's good at making voters feel like he is doing something to improve things (no child left behind), but as funny as it sounds, teachers are not the problem with the system (please remember that I'm coming from a background in private industry, teaching is a second career). Beating up teachers won't fix what's wrong with America's schools. He needs to think about solving problems for America's families. I just met with two educators from Texas, where Bush's educational plan has been in place for many years. Here's what I said when I walked out of the meeting: Jesus. Bush doesn't seem to understand that education is a two way street, and that parental involvement is critical for the vast majority of kids. Unless you can get the parents to partner up with the teachers, you're just blowing smoke up the taxpayers collective ass. I'm wondering when Bush will pass the "no child left out of the war" act. Scout "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... Fine, write me a check. Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine. Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light for corporate greed to go crazy. The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified companies. The result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the expected $9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same thing. The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and they didn't have the money. To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and bankers financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not met, Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then the whole tech sector, then the entire market. If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off. Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals, things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party. The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works. It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party. Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party. The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson, and John Kerry. Jonathan Ganz wrote I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job. I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite him, they're starting to come back. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Comments interspersed... "Bart Senior" wrote in message John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than he's made. Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing? Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to "miss" votes. During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to take things out of context isn't it.... Like money. More and more of our money. Max |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
I guess it hurt when you got left behind. All 4 times, eh?
Scotty "Horvath" wrote in message ... On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote this crap: My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. If the teachers don't like it, it must be good. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
Will you tell us why?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message ... I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then they get out there and vote, dammit! DSK I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard. But Im still going to vote for Bush. Joe |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
No. You are bull****.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:12:39 -0400, DSK wrote this crap: At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an entertainer, not a journalist' He still does. and said that he just made stuff up because it was easier than doing research. That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research. He also said that most of his audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine. That's bull****, too. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. He
told me he thought they would just pass him the first time through. He figured for sure they wouldn't fail him twice. By the third time, he had learned the material just from the repetition, so he passed. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I guess it hurt when you got left behind. All 4 times, eh? Scotty "Horvath" wrote in message ... On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote this crap: My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind' policy. It won't work. If the teachers don't like it, it must be good. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an
entertainer, not a journalist' Horvath wrote: He still does. Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual rather than low comedy? and said that he just made stuff up because it was easier than doing research. That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research. He still makes stuff up on the fly. I would guess that he has a research staff to tell him when to backpedal and when to lie about what he's said. For example http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...ipt.guest.html I heard what he said about the Abu Graib prisoner abuse, and I bet you did too (although for entirely different reasons). In the Time interview, he's lying like a rug. He also said that most of his audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine. That's bull****, too. No, sorry, it is as totally factual as his failed attempt at being a sports announcer or his interval on welfare. It was in an another interview in a very popular magazine about ten ~ eleven years ago. DSK |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
people are good at believing what they want to believe.
Scout "DSK" wrote in message . .. At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an entertainer, not a journalist' Horvath wrote: He still does. Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual rather than low comedy? and said that he just made stuff up because it was easier than doing research. That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research. He still makes stuff up on the fly. I would guess that he has a research staff to tell him when to backpedal and when to lie about what he's said. For example http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...ipt.guest.html I heard what he said about the Abu Graib prisoner abuse, and I bet you did too (although for entirely different reasons). In the Time interview, he's lying like a rug. He also said that most of his audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine. That's bull****, too. No, sorry, it is as totally factual as his failed attempt at being a sports announcer or his interval on welfare. It was in an another interview in a very popular magazine about ten ~ eleven years ago. DSK |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Scout" wrote ... I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. Son or daughter? A friend I grew up with flunked 4 times before he quit. When the neighborhood kids got together, the joke was that everyone was in Bobs' class at one time or another. Scotty |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
An Metet wrote:
... But the thing that works best on radio is logic, fueled by passionate belief. That's the essence of conservative talk radio. That, and a lot of utter malarkey that wouldn't pass muster with an 8th grader who got a "C" or better in civics. DSK |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
hehe
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Scout" wrote ... I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. Son or daughter? A friend I grew up with flunked 4 times before he quit. When the neighborhood kids got together, the joke was that everyone was in Bobs' class at one time or another. Scotty |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
I take it by ''he he'', you mean Son?
"Scout" wrote .... hehe "Scout" wrote ... I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. Son or daughter? |
Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
I'm starting to think you have too much time on your hands!
Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I take it by ''he he'', you mean Son? "Scout" wrote ... hehe "Scout" wrote ... I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. Son or daughter? |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
Thanks for the link. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...ne_rush_limbau gh_interview___entire_transcript.guest.html I heard the show that Limbaugh's talking about while in the car, except for a few minutes when I stopped for gas. That's exactly how I remember it. The "Skull and Bones" comment was a throwaway, aimed at kidding Bonesman Bush and egging on a caller who said it looked like a fraternity prank. After the first few days, Limbaugh had a hard time taking it as gravely seriously as the liberal media was trying to spin it. You can compare what a few dirtbag soldiers did at Abu Ghraib to Saddam's mass-killings, only so long before you have to point out the difference between putting live people through a plastic-shredder and piling up some nasty terrorists naked so you can take pictures of them. Limbaugh took it seriously at first, before it became crystal clear that the libs were starting to spin it into some kind of new Auschwitz. The latest Limbaugh comments were done entirely for the benefit of David Brock at http://mediamatters.org/ just so Brock would have something to write about that day. Gotta keep all the Rush-haters happy. Give them something to do. LIMBAUGH: I would wager two hours and 58 minutes were spent discussing the aspects of those photos that repulsed everybody, including me, that disappointed everybody, including me, and that angered everybody, including me. The point that I made was that this is not worth demeaning our entire war effort. This is not worth undermining the purpose for which we are there. That this does not speak for America. This does not speak for the American military. This is not who we are. The people who did this are the people who are responsible for it. They should be investigated. We should take care of this, find out who did what, punish them accordingly, and move on with what we're really there to do. And I think that these photos have been used as a political opportunity here by opponents and enemies of the president to blame him and use this is an effort to discredit the entire war in Iraq. And a caller called and said, “It looks to me like this is a fraternity hazing,” and I said yeah, you could probably see this at a Skull and Bones initiation. And I chose Skull and Bones on purpose because I was taunting the media, who was already going nuts over these photos. You know, Bush is Skull and Bones, Kerry is Skull and Bones, and the media doesn't like Skull and Bones because it's secretive and what goes on there -- I mean I could have just as easily said a college fraternity hazing prank, but I chose Skull and Bones just to try to relate to the media in dumping on Bush, which everybody has missed. So, out of the three-hour show, two minutes of comments in response to a caller were taken out of context and reported as the substance of what I said, which it was not. --------------------------------------- The Army was on top of the story and investigating it before any reporters even knew the first thing about it. The first reporters actually got nearly all their story straight from the Army. This was the Abu Ghraib knowledge at the time CBS broke the story: Abuse Of Iraqi POWs By GIs Probed CBS News April 29, 2004 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in614063.shtml [snip] It was American soldiers serving as military police at Abu Ghraib who took these pictures. The investigation started when one soldier got them from a friend, and gave them to his commanders. 60 Minutes II has a dozen of these pictures, and there are many more – pictures that show Americans, men and women in military uniforms, posing with naked Iraqi prisoners. There are shots of the prisoners stacked in a pyramid, one with a slur written on his skin in English. In some, the male prisoners are positioned to simulate sex with each other. And in most of the pictures, the Americans are laughing, posing, pointing, or giving the camera a thumbs-up. 60 Minutes II was only able to contact one of the soldiers facing charges. But the Army says they are all in Iraq, awaiting court martial. "What can the Army say specifically to Iraqis and others who are going to see this and take it personally," Rather asked Kimmitt, in an interview conducted by satellite from Baghdad. "The first thing I’d say is we’re appalled as well. These are our fellow soldiers. These are the people we work with every day, and they represent us. They wear the same uniform as us, and they let their fellow soldiers down,” says Kimmitt. “Our soldiers could be taken prisoner as well. And we expect our soldiers to be treated well by the adversary, by the enemy. And if we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect … We can't ask that other nations to that to our soldiers as well." “So what would I tell the people of Iraq? This is wrong. This is reprehensible. But this is not representative of the 150,000 soldiers that are over here,” adds Kimmitt. “I'd say the same thing to the American people... Don't judge your army based on the actions of a few." One of the soldiers facing court martial is Army Reserve Staff Sgt. Chip Frederick. Frederick is charged with maltreatment for allegedly participating in and setting up a photo, and for posing in a photograph by sitting on top of a detainee. He is charged with an indecent act for observing one scene. He is also charged with assault for allegedly striking detainees – and ordering detainees to strike each other. 60 Minutes II talked with him by phone from Baghdad, where he is awaiting court martial. Frederick told us he will plead not guilty, claiming the way the Army was running the prison led to the abuse of prisoners. “We had no support, no training whatsoever. And I kept asking my chain of command for certain things...like rules and regulations,” says Frederick. “And it just wasn't happening." Six months before he faced a court martial, Frederick sent home a video diary of his trip across the country. Frederick, a reservist, said he was proud to serve in Iraq. He seemed particularly well-suited for the job at Abu Ghraib. He’s a corrections officer at a Virginia prison, whose warden described Frederick to us as “one of the best.” Frederick says Americans came into the prison: “We had military intelligence, we had all kinds of other government agencies, FBI, CIA ... All those that I didn't even know or recognize." Frederick's letters and email messages home also offer clues to problems at the prison. He wrote that he was helping the interrogators: "Military intelligence has encouraged and told us 'Great job.' " "They usually don't allow others to watch them interrogate. But since they like the way I run the prison, they have made an exception." "We help getting them to talk with the way we handle them. ... We've had a very high rate with our style of getting them to break. They usually end up breaking within hours." According to the Army’s own investigation, that’s what was happening. The Army found that interrogators asked reservists working in the prison to prepare the Iraqi detainees, physically and mentally, for questioning. What, if any actions, are being taken against the interrogators? "I hope the investigation is including not only the people who committed the crimes, but some of the people that might have encouraged these crimes as well,” says Kimmitt. “Because they certainly share some level of responsibility as well." But so far, none of the interrogators at Abu Ghraib are facing criminal charges. In fact, a number of them are civilians, and military law doesn’t apply to them. One of the civilian interrogators at Abu Ghraib was questioned by the Army, and he told investigators he had "broken several tables during interrogations, unintentionally," while trying to "fear up" prisoners. He denied hurting anyone. In our phone conversation, 60 Minutes II asked Frederick whether he had seen any prisoners beaten. “I saw things. We had to use force sometimes to get the inmates to cooperate, just like our rules of engagement said,” says Frederick. “We learned a little bit of Arabic, basic commands. And they didn't want to listen, so sometimes, you would just give them a little nudge or something like that just to get them to cooperate so we could get the mission accomplished." Attorney Gary Myers and a judge advocate in Iraq are defending Frederick. They say he should never have been charged, because of the failure of his commanders to provide proper training and standards. "The elixir of power, the elixir of believing that you're helping the CIA, for God's sake, when you're from a small town in Virginia, that's intoxicating,” says Myers. “And so, good guys sometimes do things believing that they are being of assistance and helping a just cause. ... And helping people they view as important." Frederick says he didn't see a copy of the Geneva Convention rules for handling prisoners of war until after he was charged. The Army investigation confirms that soldiers at Abu Ghraib were not trained at all in Geneva Convention rules. And most were reservists, part-time soldiers who didn't get the kind of specialized prisoner of war training given to regular Army members. Frederick also says there were far too few soldiers there for the number of prisoners: “There was, when I left, there was over 900. And there was only five soldiers, plus two non-commissioned officers, in charge for those 900 -- over 900 inmates." Rather asked Kimmitt about understaffing. "That doesn't condone individual acts of criminal behavior no matter how tired we are. 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Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
"Donal" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message "DSK" wrote in message Scout wrote: Max, the first thing wrong with this anecdote is that is begins with, "An attorney on the radio last week related a story . . . " There are so many things that sound fishy with this story, that I'd need to see something verifiable. Oh, it's easily verifiable. It's the movie "Stand and Deliver," the name of the teacher is the same as the first name of the actor. It's nice to see Maxprop trying to back up his statements with at least some form of near-fact. Why thanks, Doug. In your arrogant and derogatory way, you've paid me a backhanded compliment. Arrogance only exists in the eye of the underling - so I won't question your use of the word "arrogant". However I'm confused by your accusation that Doug was derogatory. Can you clear this up for me, please? You've tuned in rather late, Irishman. There will be a quiz . . . Max |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:20:58 -0400, DSK wrote
this crap: At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an entertainer, not a journalist' Horvath wrote: He still does. Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual rather than low comedy? Because what he says IS factual. and said that he just made stuff up because it was easier than doing research. That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research. He still makes stuff up on the fly. I would guess that he has a research staff to tell him when to backpedal and when to lie about what he's said. That's bull****. if his stuff was made up, he wouldn't be on the air long. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote:
I heard the show that Limbaugh's talking about while in the car, except for a few minutes when I stopped for gas. I was working in the shop. ... That's exactly how I remember it. The "Skull and Bones" comment was a throwaway, aimed at kidding Bonesman Bush and egging on a caller who said it looked like a fraternity prank. Yep. Did you hear him say "Saddam had the right idea on how to deal with these people?" Did you hear him say "If it's women that are doing the torturing, it's not really torture?" I did and so did everybody in the shop. Most of them, even the dittoheads, were appalled, one serious Joe-like person agreed. Since Limbaugh has been distancing himself from those comments, he's emphasized the Skull & Bones (which is not too good) as a red herring to distract from some of his worse comments. The man has no moral code: If you believe that torture is good when done by your friends, then you approve of torture in principle. Do you believe in this type of "morality"? DSK |
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"Michael" wrote
The answer to that and not surprisingly why Libertarian radio attracts listeners while their counter-culture equavalents do not is the same. Interesting thesis, but I'd hardly call Limbaugh or the people he champions Libertarian. I only recently learned that Hillary Clinton and Leon Penetta had both worked for Goldwater back in 1964, as did Reagan. So did I. LBJ's landslide victory taught me that people don't want freedom, just the appearance of freedom. Sadly, Goldwater's defeat handed the Republican party over to the religious right - to people who believe that the Government's job is to force everybody to obey the rules dictated by "the voices" and their invisible friend - and these theocrats have controlled the GOP ever since. However your are wrong in saying their is no equivalent. The basis is simply mindset. Radio require some mental acuity and ability to reason. The equivalent to radio is TV and in some cases movies. TV requires no attention span nor thinking ability. Nor in do movies (and I draw a distinction between 'movies' and 'film.' The equivalent to Rush Limbaugh is probably somebody like Jerry Springer, or the evening news provided by the former 'major media.' Radio and it's equivalents invite discourse, debate, the use of logic, facts and reasoning. TV *is* less intellectual so Springer cannot be the Democrat equivalent of Limbaugh - unless you believe that all Democrats are stupider than Bush, and I can't buy that - not when Bush's main constituancy comprises the Homer Simpsons among us. Nor is Limbaugh libertarian or conservative in the sense that Goldwater was. A Limbaugh equivalent would poke fun at the village idiot's poor English and at his illogical ideas just like Limbaugh did Clintoon's antics.. I.e.:" Mr President, you say we must stop abortion and topple Saddam. Why?" "Doh, cuz my 'visible friend say so! Ah, doh, wa you in kindergarten when them terrorists struck? Ah was! Ah was think'n about Dick 'n Jane when 'the voices' said 'Get that damn Hussien.". TV, along with most movies are propaganda efforts. .... Agree, but never saw the shows you mention. "Support a return to the two party system . . .vote Libertarian." Just might do that -- or write in Jessie Jackson (c: |
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"felton" wrote
Oh, please. "Debate", "critical callers". Rush Limbaugh and his imitators are about as much like an open debate as professional wrestling is a competitive sport. They spend their entire program trying to demonize the "other side" with fabrications and exaggerations. ..... But that still begs the question "Why isn't some 'entertainer' using the rich load of Bushisms to do the same?" |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Will you tell us why? Because he is a person that is going to do what he says. Because he does not suck up to the French. Because he hates Dictators. Because he is seen by the terrorist as a person that has not hesitation to kill them before they kill us. Because he puts the US ahead of any and all other countries. He Like I could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, all we care about is our country and keeping another 911 from happening. Because he supports our military. Because he supports the American oil field. Because he's a fellow Texan. Because he stands his ground no matter what. Because I hates most lawyers. Because I think Kerry is a 2 faced liar. Because Edwards is not capable of becoming president if Kerry kicks the bucket. Because he a better leader than Kerry. Because Kerry discraced his fellow Vietnam vets. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message ... I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then they get out there and vote, dammit! DSK I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard. But Im still going to vote for Bush. Joe |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
"Horvath" wrote
He also said that most of his audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine. That's bull****, too. Which - the allegation that Rush said it or the part about his audience being morons. Remember, Archie Bunker? |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
"Horvath" wrote in message
... On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 21:20:58 -0400, DSK wrote this crap: At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an entertainer, not a journalist' Horvath wrote: He still does. Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual rather than low comedy? Because what he says IS factual. Some of it. That's the key to good fiction - include just enough truth to make the rest plausible. Example: Terrorists killed 1000s of Americans on 9/11. That's why we must attack Iraq and you must stop abusing your mother. |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
HAhahahahaha.... good one joe. With reasons like that, you (and only
you) *should* vote for Bu****. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Will you tell us why? Because he is a person that is going to do what he says. Because he does not suck up to the French. Because he hates Dictators. Because he is seen by the terrorist as a person that has not hesitation to kill them before they kill us. Because he puts the US ahead of any and all other countries. He Like I could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, all we care about is our country and keeping another 911 from happening. Because he supports our military. Because he supports the American oil field. Because he's a fellow Texan. Because he stands his ground no matter what. Because I hates most lawyers. Because I think Kerry is a 2 faced liar. Because Edwards is not capable of becoming president if Kerry kicks the bucket. Because he a better leader than Kerry. Because Kerry discraced his fellow Vietnam vets. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... DSK wrote in message ... I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then they get out there and vote, dammit! DSK I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard. But Im still going to vote for Bush. Joe |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
Most American's will reelect President Bush for those
many fine reasons. Jonathan Ganz wrote HAhahahahaha.... good one joe. With reasons like that, you (and only you) *should* vote for Bu****. "Joe" wrote Because he is a person that is going to do what he says. Because he does not suck up to the French. Because he hates Dictators. Because he is seen by the terrorist as a person that has not hesitation to kill them before they kill us. Because he puts the US ahead of any and all other countries. He Like I could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, all we care about is our country and keeping another 911 from happening. Because he supports our military. Because he supports the American oil field. Because he's a fellow Texan. Because he stands his ground no matter what. Because I hates most lawyers. Because I think Kerry is a 2 faced liar. Because Edwards is not capable of becoming president if Kerry kicks the bucket. Because he a better leader than Kerry. Because Kerry discraced his fellow Vietnam vets. |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
"Joe" wrote in message
om... "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Will you tell us why? .... Because he hates Dictators. ..... Bwahahahaha! Damn near wet my pants on that one! Jeeze Joe, look around! Bush thinks HE is a dictator! That's why I won't vote for him again! |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose fair and square. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" wrote in message t... Most American's will reelect President Bush for those many fine reasons. Jonathan Ganz wrote HAhahahahaha.... good one joe. With reasons like that, you (and only you) *should* vote for Bu****. "Joe" wrote Because he is a person that is going to do what he says. Because he does not suck up to the French. Because he hates Dictators. Because he is seen by the terrorist as a person that has not hesitation to kill them before they kill us. Because he puts the US ahead of any and all other countries. He Like I could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, all we care about is our country and keeping another 911 from happening. Because he supports our military. Because he supports the American oil field. Because he's a fellow Texan. Because he stands his ground no matter what. Because I hates most lawyers. Because I think Kerry is a 2 faced liar. Because Edwards is not capable of becoming president if Kerry kicks the bucket. Because he a better leader than Kerry. Because Kerry discraced his fellow Vietnam vets. |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:59:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote: HAhahahahaha.... good one joe. With reasons like that, you (and only you) *should* vote for Bu****. Hey, take it easy on Joe. He has obviously been living in an oxygen poor environment for some time now down in the Houston ship channel. After all, George W was the "environmental governor" down here. Heck, just look at some of his accomlishments... "Under George W. Bush's leadership, Texas ranks number one in a many categories of pollution and environmental degradation. For example, Texas is: #1 in the Emission of Ozone Causing Air Pollution Chemicals #1 in Toxic Chemical releases into the Air #1 in use of Deep Well Injectors as method of Waste Disposal #1 in counties listed in top 20 of Emitting Cancer Causing Chemicals #1 in Total Number of Hazardous Waste Incinerators #1 in Environmental Justice Title 6 complaints #1 in production of Cancer causing Benzene & Vinyl Chloride #1 Largest Sludge Dump in Country" Now poor Joe lives right down in the heart of that mess. Rumor has it that anytime folks in Houston get some sort of weather pattern that allows their minds to start to clear, the Republicans turn up the emissions to keep them dazed and confused.:) It is obviously working:) |
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felton wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:59:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote: HAhahahahaha.... good one joe. With reasons like that, you (and only you) *should* vote for Bu****. Hey, take it easy on Joe. He has obviously been living in an oxygen poor environment for some time now down in the Houston ship channel. After all, George W was the "environmental governor" down here. Heck, just look at some of his accomlishments... "Under George W. Bush's leadership, Texas ranks number one in a many categories of pollution and environmental degradation. For example, Texas is: #1 in the Emission of Ozone Causing Air Pollution Chemicals Thats because Texas refines more oil than any other state. And most likely more than any country on earth. You use gasoline? #1 in Toxic Chemical releases into the Air Most likey left wing tree hugger bull****, but Texas produces more chemical than any other state and most likely any other country. You use plastic? #1 in use of Deep Well Injectors as method of Waste Disposal Also the largest underground storage of oil in the world. Ever hear of the the stratigic oil reserve? Salt domes are excellent stable underground storage facilities. If the **** ever hits the fan we will have gas, Will you? Most likey due to Texas you will. #1 in counties listed in top 20 of Emitting Cancer Causing Chemicals Well the wind is normally from the south here so it blows to Oklahoma. #1 in Total Number of Hazardous Waste Incinerators Most likely more left wing BS but someone has to clean up after you slobs. #1 in Environmental Justice Title 6 complaints Boo ho call the law! #1 in production of Cancer causing Benzene & Vinyl Chloride You been sniffing Benzene again? Got vinal siding on you lubbery house? #1 Largest Sludge Dump in Country" Were? Now poor Joe lives right down in the heart of that mess. Rumor has it that anytime folks in Houston get some sort of weather pattern that allows their minds to start to clear, the Republicans turn up the emissions to keep them dazed and confused.:) It is obviously working:) Yeah right, I live close to the coast and 99% of the time we get a breeze from the south, can you figure that one out? We have the best fishing in the gulf, bay full of oysters, shrimp, gulf full of red snappers, groupers, produce more cattle than any other state, have the world best health care systems, cheap gasoline, deer everywere, NASA, the busiest port in the world, I can walk 20 yards and catch excellent redfish, shrimp, speckled trout,blue crabs, stone crabs. I can shoot duck, geese, quail, exotic deer ect, It a damn paradise. And I can carry a fully loaded AR-15 in my pickup and no one gives it a second thought. I can hide my Colt under my Coat and It OK, infact it's expected. And to top it off Texas is so Big and out produces every other state in everything it's likely we are going to have more waste.ect. Take any bunch of the little states and add them together to get the same land mass as Texas and you will find out that they out pollute Texas by a long shot. minus Alaska of course. Sounds like your just jelious and a tree hugging left wing propaganda sponge. Joe Native Texan |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
H-m-m-m... did you hear about how Bush's military service record was
"accidentally" destroyed?? Did you know the Iraq fiasco is costing the USA about 64 million a week That on average 3 to 4 soldiers are being killed there every day. That everyone knows there never was any WMD .... and best of all we Canadians refused to join on this hay ride to hell in a handbasket! Cripes you are looking dumber every day! CM "Joe" wrote in message om... | "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... | Will you tell us why? | | | Because he is a person that is going to do what he says. Because he | does not suck up to the French. Because he hates Dictators. Because he | is seen by the terrorist as a person that has not hesitation to kill | them before they kill us. | Because he puts the US ahead of any and all other countries. He Like I | could care less what the rest of the world thinks about us, all we | care about is our country and keeping another 911 from happening. | Because he supports our military. Because he supports the American oil | field. Because he's a fellow Texan. Because he stands his ground no | matter what. Because I hates most lawyers. Because I think Kerry is a | 2 faced liar. Because Edwards is not capable of becoming president if | Kerry kicks the bucket. Because he a better leader than Kerry. Because | Kerry discraced his fellow Vietnam vets. | | Joe | | | | | | | -- | "j" ganz @@ | www.sailnow.com | | "Joe" wrote in message | om... | DSK wrote in message | ... | I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's | pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost | daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then | they get out there and vote, dammit! | | DSK | | I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard. | | But Im still going to vote for Bush. | | Joe |
Rush Limbaugh? and why he & his listeners are losers...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose fair and square. For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the Electoral College can elect the president. The Electoral College has elected every president since and including George Washington. Every one. The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog catcher. Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more stupider. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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