Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.


This has to be the silliest thing you, or anyone else, has ever said in
this
forum.

Really? Unaccountable corporate greed and malfeasance play no role in their
perpetuation? On what planet do you reside?

Max

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"DSK" wrote in message

It is however a very common Republican smear tactic. Sort of like the way
Maxprop is convinced that I must be a libby-rull because I disagree with
his
caveman fascism.

LOL. I am convinced you are a liberal because you are. Simple, concise,
and to the point. Denial, OTOH, is your bailiwick.

Max

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"felton" wrote in message


My thinking exactly. I am much more comfortable with the White House
and the Congress not being controlled by the same party...either
party.

Amen.

Max

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"Vito" wrote in message
"Maxprop" wrote

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to
take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Are you making 10 million a year? If not, then that hasn't been true since
the jesus freaks took over the GOP. Reagan spent more money than any
democrat before him and The Village Idiot is spending far more than
Hillary's front man did. Difference is democrats taxed people making over
a
$million a year under the Clintoons but Republicans barrow it, leaving our
kids and grandkids to pay for our not-so-good times- plus interest.

I have no idea what your point is, Vito, but my point was that Hillary said
she would take some things away from us, and she meant the tax cuts. I pay
less tax now under the current law than I did prior to the cuts. Simple,
actually.

Max

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

"felton" wrote in message


Ultimately every dollar that government spends has to be paid for
somehow, by someone sometime.

Not really--those dollars just add to the runaway federal debt. But your
point is valid: if tax cuts are given, spending should also be cut. A
simple premise, really, but seemingly forgotten by everyone in Washington,
including democrats.

If you think those tax cuts created
"free money" you are mistaken. When John McCain says that the current
Republican Congress spends money in a way that puts drunken sailors to
shame, that should tell you something about the "fiscally responsible"
party. Besides, unless you are very well off, most of the Bush tax
cuts didn't help you, anyway.

They helped me, and I don't consider myself among the ultra-rich, as the
dems purport were the only beneficiaries.

Max

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Clinton supported NAFTA, as well as most did most economists.
It's been good for the US. You now claim to be anti-free trade,
except when it suits you of course?

What's the problem with China? I don't get the connection between
China and Clinton-bashing.

Bush inherited an economy that didn't need a tax cut, that didn't needed
to be pushed into a recession. Thanks Bush. The US lost millions of jobs
because of him. Thanks for nothing. I don't see him reversing NAFTA
if that's what the problem was. Max, get your facts straight before slam
me for telling the truth. Bush lied about Iraq, about WMDs, and pretty
much abdicated the search for Usama. Instead of putting in 100,000
troops in Afganistan, he put in 10K. He sent the 100K to Iraq, a
country that had no WMDs and was contained.

Oh, I forgot. Clinton lied about a blow job, and the ensuing right-wing
fueled witchhunt cost us $70 million. Too bad because I'm sure Henry
Hyde could have paid a hooker $70 or less and got the same thing.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

I'm sorry you lost your job, but your facts are twisted around.
Anyone who takes a dispassionate look at the economy would
see that Clinton did everything he could for the economy, while
Bush did nothing.

Clinton supported and signed NAFTA: job losses to Canada and Mexico. The
UAW lost over half a million potential and/or real jobs, for example.

Most 20th Century presidents have supported most favored nation trade
status
with China. Where do most of the low-tech goods we buy come from? One
guess.

Bush inherited the economic slide that was well into the down curve during
Clinton's last year in office. Bush also inherited 9/11, which did more
to
tank the economy than any other factor in the past four years. Bush gave
tax cuts, which are the right thing to do, not to mention at least party
responsible for the economic upturn.

Get your facts straight, Jon. You're spouting liberal diatribe, not
facts.

Clinton lied about a blow job. Bush lied about
WMDs

You cannot provide one scintilla of evidence that he lied about WMDs. He
was wrong, yes. He was probably misinformed, yes. He probably told his
intel providers that he wanted a reason for attacking Iraq, yes. But he
lied? Show me the evidence, not just your left-wing dogmatic opinion.

and a war that has brought this country nothing but
heartache and discrace.

This may be true. The final chapter isn't written yet, but my guess is
that
you're assessment will be correct.

Clinton never lied about his lack of
service. Bush didn't even bother to show up for his physical.
Clinton may be a sex addict, but Bush is addicted to alcohol.

So, a recovered alcoholic is not worthy of anything?

Good on him that he hasn't had a drink in a long time. I hope
he stays sober throughout the rest of his term, although he
acts like he's drunk most of the time. He's inarticulate and
low brow.

He is most certainly inarticulate. Low brow? Hmmm. I'm unaware of
anyone
with his balance sheet that would be considered "low brow."

He picked a liar and a cheat for his VP,

Agreed. I strongly dislike Cheney. W should have dumped him this
go-round.

as well
as for most of his cabinet. He picked a guy for attorney general
who lost an election to a dead guy and who annointed himself
with oil.

Again agreed. John Ashcroft is a megalomaniac. He doesn't serve the
people, rather himself and his boss.

Bart compared Clinton with Bush and proposed that W was more moral and
given
to greater integrity than WJC. I think they both lack those qualities,
but
in different areas. They are, after all else, politicians.

Max

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Whitewater????? HAahahahahahaha... Clinton lost money you idiot.
Ken Lay, a great friend of GWB made just a couple of bucks I heard.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Bart Senior" wrote in message

Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

Don't yell at me, Bart. You're preaching to the choir here. A (perhaps
"the") major job loss factor is NAFTA, which was supported by and signed
into law by WJClinton. And yes, Whitewater paved the way for unrepentant
corporate greed. Odd how the current crop of know-nothing liberals blame
Bush for all the above.


snip

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

This seems to have been conveniently forgotten by the left. His eleventh
hour pardons were legendary in terms of corporate greed, political
payoffs,
and criminal non-accountability.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

I might have to disagree a bit here. Bush is a politician first,
foremost.
Politicians want to keep their jobs, and integrity and moral fiber really
play an almost invisible role in politics. Money is the moving force in
politics, and money doesn't find itself into one's coffers through
integrity
and morality. Bush and Kerry make the same promises to funds providers.
No
difference.

snip


Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.

You could also field such a list on the right side of the aisle.

My comment to Jon's question was that Hillary was referring to taking away
our tax cuts, which the dems purport were only for the very rich. Of
course
John Kerry and his wife should have benefited about as much as anyone,
considering they are probably among the top 500 richest folks in the
world,
if the dems are correct in their accusations.

Max

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

Simply stupid. So you pay less. Good for you. Except... you obviously
don't give a **** about anyone else. Bush has been bad for the US in
many, many ways.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Vito" wrote in message
"Maxprop" wrote

During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen. Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take things away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty easy to
take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Are you making 10 million a year? If not, then that hasn't been true
since
the jesus freaks took over the GOP. Reagan spent more money than any
democrat before him and The Village Idiot is spending far more than
Hillary's front man did. Difference is democrats taxed people making
over
a
$million a year under the Clintoons but Republicans barrow it, leaving
our
kids and grandkids to pay for our not-so-good times- plus interest.

I have no idea what your point is, Vito, but my point was that Hillary
said
she would take some things away from us, and she meant the tax cuts. I
pay
less tax now under the current law than I did prior to the cuts. Simple,
actually.

Max

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

Good for you. In that case, you should be voting for Kerry.

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"felton" wrote in message


My thinking exactly. I am much more comfortable with the White House
and the Congress not being controlled by the same party...either
party.

Amen.

Max

Who is John Kerry? and why he is a loser...
 

It's true. What about all the pardons?

Bank fraud, financial crimes, and major drug dealing make
up the bulk of the list. Al Capone would have made the
list if he was alive.

Pay off President Clinton and you get a "get out of jail free
card."

It is the worst sort of corruption.

http://www.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/...linton.pardon/

List of criminals
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm


Maxprop wrote

"Jeff Morris" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote
The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

This has to be the silliest thing you, or anyone else, has ever said in
this
forum.

Really? Unaccountable corporate greed and malfeasance play no role in
their
perpetuation? On what planet do you reside?

Max