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Scout July 2nd 04 03:27 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
0U812?
Scout

"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
what's a good number, 12 ?


12 is a pretty good number. However, I have always been partial to 8.




Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:31 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
jons' license plate # ?

69-0U812



"Scout" wrote in message
...
0U812?
Scout

"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
what's a good number, 12 ?


12 is a pretty good number. However, I have always been partial to 8.





Bobspirt July 2nd 04 03:33 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
jons' license plate # ?

69-0U812


Now, I get it. Nasty.

Scout July 2nd 04 03:37 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I probably should have mentioned that he said they sometimes put the water
in their fuel (bunker C or #6) tanks. At least I believe that's what he
said.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.
I loaded a box weighing 110K lbs. , onto a small ship in Balt. They used

the
2 ship cranes to pick it. The ship heeled over when they tried to lift.

Had
to wait what , seemed like an hour, to fill the starboard side ballast

tank.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships

in
the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't

confirm.
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from

the
fuel) but not sal****er.

On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe half?)

had
service
or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The really big diesels are

apparently
capable of gulping in a few gallons of seawater now & then. The

steamships
aren't
any problem at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all

the
burners
out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery, but why

complain
when we
were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the seperator

bowls
at least
hourly, but I used to put notes on the seperators in big letters

"Bring
Me
This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole watch go

by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get

to
right temp.

Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big

motorsailer
what a
"cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King







Scout July 2nd 04 03:39 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/...a/stg4-10.html



Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:44 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I would have bet against this, beforehand.


"Scout" wrote in message
...
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/...a/stg4-10.html




DSK July 2nd 04 04:31 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Scout wrote:

Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships in
the navy, possibly CG.


All Navy ships have the capability of ballasting with sea water, not just
"bigger ships."

In fact the newer gas turbine powered combatants *have* to be ballasted because
there is no heavy boiler mounted down low in the hull. Their fuel storage tanks
have a system that lets in seawater to the bottom of the tank as the fuel is
sucked from the top.


Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.


It's difficult to adjust to shore life, I sympathize with the poor guy.

DSK


Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 04:46 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
how do they keep the fuel oil off the water when they 'dump ballast'?

SBV

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships

in
the navy, possibly CG.


All Navy ships have the capability of ballasting with sea water, not just
"bigger ships."

In fact the newer gas turbine powered combatants *have* to be ballasted

because
there is no heavy boiler mounted down low in the hull. Their fuel storage

tanks
have a system that lets in seawater to the bottom of the tank as the fuel

is
sucked from the top.


Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.


It's difficult to adjust to shore life, I sympathize with the poor guy.

DSK



jlrogers±³© July 2nd 04 05:01 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

Even better.

katysails wrote:
No,he said "pints". I think he wants to get you drunk.

2 pints would put me into a coma....


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.



jlrogers±³© July 2nd 04 05:07 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Years ago it was quite common. Sea water was added while fuel remained in
the tank. The fuel floated on top and was still usable. Environmental
concerns has about ended the practice, however.

Scout wrote:
I probably should have mentioned that he said they sometimes put the
water in their fuel (bunker C or #6) tanks. At least I believe that's
what he said.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.
I loaded a box weighing 110K lbs. , onto a small ship in Balt. They
used the 2 ship cranes to pick it. The ship heeled over when they
tried to lift. Had to wait what , seemed like an hour, to fill the
starboard side ballast tank.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger
ships in the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and
I can't confirm. Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some
(from the fuel) but not sal****er.

On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe
half?) had service or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The
really big diesels are apparently capable of gulping in a few
gallons of seawater now & then. The steamships aren't any problem
at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all the
burners out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery,
but why complain when we were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the
seperator bowls at least hourly, but I used to put notes on the
seperators in big letters

"Bring
Me
This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole
watch go by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to
get to right temp.

Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big
motorsailer what a "cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one
of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.




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