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Bart Senior July 1st 04 03:43 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

How is it used?

Why would you want one?





katysails July 1st 04 03:54 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

Day Tank
A glass-containing vessel made from refractory blocks mainly used for the
melting of batch for coloured glass, crystal glass and soft special glasses.
Day tanks are refilled with batch daily, with melting usually done at night
and glass production the following day. Used for producing larger quantities
of glass than is possible with pot furnaces (see "pot"). The type of glass
to be melted can be changed at short notice.

He who lives in a glass boat shouldn't throw seashells???? In actuality,
it's a type of diesel storage system that uses a gravity siphon....I have no
idea why you'd want one except (i'll guess) it would relieve having your
engine pump the diesel in? (That's just a guess from someone who can change
oil but really doesn't much get into the mechanics of it all...)


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Remco Moedt July 1st 04 08:43 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:43:05 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?


The fueltank connected to the engine.

How is it used?


Uh, as a tank. You fill it with a pump from the maintank(s).

Why would you want one?


To get the weight balanced, and keep the fuelline to the engine short.


Cheers!


Remco


PS, wasn't the guy Dick Koopmans?








Horvath July 1st 04 12:12 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:43:05 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap:

I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?


M-1 Abrahms


How is it used?


Battlefield superiority

Why would you want one?


To be invincible.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Scout July 1st 04 12:14 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
It is a fuel tank, baring any esoteric definitions. He might be a seasoned
sailor, or he might be an hvac technician, who would also call "certain"
fuel filled tanks, daytanks. In the mechanical trades, they're part of an
elaborate fuel delivery system that offers a few benefits over the
conventional main tank to fuel pump relationship.
Scout

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

How is it used?

Why would you want one?







Marc July 1st 04 12:24 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:43:05 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

smaller aux tank which contains a days worth of fuel

How is it used?

fuel is filtered and transfered to the daytank for immediate use

Why would you want one?


as part of an onboard fuel polishing system. A choice of many people
who don't have rapid turnover of fuel in the main tank. Allows for
secondary and continuous on board fuel filtration.





Bart Senior July 1st 04 02:53 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
2 points--for the first two questions.

katysails wrote

it's a type of diesel storage system that uses a gravity siphon....I have

no
idea why you'd want one except (i'll guess) it would relieve having your
engine pump the diesel in? (That's just a guess from someone who can

change
oil but really doesn't much get into the mechanics of it all...)




Bart Senior July 1st 04 02:58 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

Marc wrote
On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 02:43:05 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

smaller aux tank which contains a days worth of fuel


Also these are typically gravity fed.

How is it used?

fuel is filtered and transfered to the daytank for immediate use

Why would you want one?


as part of an onboard fuel polishing system. A choice of many people
who don't have rapid turnover of fuel in the main tank. Allows for
secondary and continuous on board fuel filtration.


1 point.

Main tanks tend to accumlate dirt and sludge. By filtering and filling
your day tank, before leaving the dock, you are assured a clean supply
of fuel. The gravity feed also makes it easier to bleed the fuel system
if that becomes necessary.



DSK July 1st 04 04:05 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Scout wrote:

It is a fuel tank, baring any esoteric definitions. He might be a seasoned
sailor, or he might be an hvac technician, who would also call "certain"
fuel filled tanks, daytanks. In the mechanical trades, they're part of an
elaborate fuel delivery system that offers a few benefits over the
conventional main tank to fuel pump relationship.


Yep. But certain folks really like elaborate & complex & difficult-to-operate
systems. And the benefits are real enough *if* you are the type who will not
take good care of the fuel unless forced to.

Disadvantages: more expensive, more bulky, greater likelihood of spillage,
more valves & lines to maintain.

Advantages: offers a check on fuel quality (note: the same checks can be done
with a regular fuel system also), allows easy priming, allows the engine to
keep running if lift pump fails.

IMHO a day tank does not make sense on a small cruising boat. Big ships draw
fuel from "service" or "ready" tanks that are the same concept, but the fuel
is measured in tons rather than gallons and all the storage tanks are certain
to have a lot of seawater sloshing around in the bottoms, so stripping it in
transfer to ready tank makes sense.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


otnmbrd July 1st 04 05:25 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 


DSK wrote:


Advantages: offers a check on fuel quality (note: the same checks can be done
with a regular fuel system also), allows easy priming, allows the engine to
keep running if lift pump fails.

IMHO a day tank does not make sense on a small cruising boat. Big ships draw
fuel from "service" or "ready" tanks that are the same concept, but the fuel
is measured in tons rather than gallons and all the storage tanks are certain
to have a lot of seawater sloshing around in the bottoms, so stripping it in
transfer to ready tank makes sense.


Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from the
fuel) but not sal****er.
Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get to
right temp.

otn


Michael July 2nd 04 12:18 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I made a point of not reading the answers of the others but using this as a
good method to segue back into .asa.

Day Tank is one used for water or fuel. You have to fill it with the amount
you want to use, per your rationing requirements. When it runs out you are
done for that day.

How'd I do?

Michael

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. net...
I got these from a Dutch Sailor who built his own boat.
A short conversation and a single observation proved to
me that this fellow was an experienced sailor.

[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

How is it used?

Why would you want one?







DSK July 2nd 04 12:56 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from the
fuel) but not sal****er.


On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe half?) had service
or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The really big diesels are apparently
capable of gulping in a few gallons of seawater now & then. The steamships aren't
any problem at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all the burners
out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery, but why complain when we
were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the seperator bowls at least
hourly, but I used to put notes on the seperators in big letters "Bring Me This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole watch go by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get to
right temp.


Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big motorsailer what a
"cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


katysails July 2nd 04 01:19 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

2 points--for the first two questions.

YIPPEEE!!!!! I finally got two Bart points!!!!!
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Bobspirt July 2nd 04 01:31 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
2 points--for the first two questions.

YIPPEEE!!!!! I finally got two Bart points!!!!!
--
katysails


No,he said "pints". I think he wants to get you drunk.

Scout July 2nd 04 11:22 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships in
the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from the
fuel) but not sal****er.


On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe half?) had

service
or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The really big diesels are

apparently
capable of gulping in a few gallons of seawater now & then. The steamships

aren't
any problem at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all the

burners
out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery, but why complain

when we
were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the seperator bowls

at least
hourly, but I used to put notes on the seperators in big letters "Bring Me

This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole watch go by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get to
right temp.


Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big motorsailer

what a
"cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




katysails July 2nd 04 12:05 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

No,he said "pints". I think he wants to get you drunk.

2 pints would put me into a coma....
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:19 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.
I loaded a box weighing 110K lbs. , onto a small ship in Balt. They used the
2 ship cranes to pick it. The ship heeled over when they tried to lift. Had
to wait what , seemed like an hour, to fill the starboard side ballast tank.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships

in
the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from the
fuel) but not sal****er.


On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe half?)

had
service
or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The really big diesels are

apparently
capable of gulping in a few gallons of seawater now & then. The

steamships
aren't
any problem at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all

the
burners
out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery, but why

complain
when we
were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the seperator

bowls
at least
hourly, but I used to put notes on the seperators in big letters "Bring

Me
This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole watch go

by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get

to
right temp.


Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big motorsailer

what a
"cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King





Bobspirt July 2nd 04 03:20 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.

A good number of sailboats do as well.

Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:22 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.


A good number of sailboats do as well.


what's a good number, 12 ?




Bobspirt July 2nd 04 03:25 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
what's a good number, 12 ?


12 is a pretty good number. However, I have always been partial to 8.

Scout July 2nd 04 03:27 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
0U812?
Scout

"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
what's a good number, 12 ?


12 is a pretty good number. However, I have always been partial to 8.




Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:31 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
jons' license plate # ?

69-0U812



"Scout" wrote in message
...
0U812?
Scout

"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
what's a good number, 12 ?


12 is a pretty good number. However, I have always been partial to 8.





Bobspirt July 2nd 04 03:33 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
jons' license plate # ?

69-0U812


Now, I get it. Nasty.

Scout July 2nd 04 03:37 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I probably should have mentioned that he said they sometimes put the water
in their fuel (bunker C or #6) tanks. At least I believe that's what he
said.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.
I loaded a box weighing 110K lbs. , onto a small ship in Balt. They used

the
2 ship cranes to pick it. The ship heeled over when they tried to lift.

Had
to wait what , seemed like an hour, to fill the starboard side ballast

tank.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships

in
the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't

confirm.
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some (from

the
fuel) but not sal****er.

On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe half?)

had
service
or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The really big diesels are

apparently
capable of gulping in a few gallons of seawater now & then. The

steamships
aren't
any problem at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all

the
burners
out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery, but why

complain
when we
were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the seperator

bowls
at least
hourly, but I used to put notes on the seperators in big letters

"Bring
Me
This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole watch go

by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to get

to
right temp.

Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big

motorsailer
what a
"cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King







Scout July 2nd 04 03:39 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/...a/stg4-10.html



Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 03:44 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I would have bet against this, beforehand.


"Scout" wrote in message
...
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/...a/stg4-10.html




DSK July 2nd 04 04:31 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Scout wrote:

Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships in
the navy, possibly CG.


All Navy ships have the capability of ballasting with sea water, not just
"bigger ships."

In fact the newer gas turbine powered combatants *have* to be ballasted because
there is no heavy boiler mounted down low in the hull. Their fuel storage tanks
have a system that lets in seawater to the bottom of the tank as the fuel is
sucked from the top.


Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.


It's difficult to adjust to shore life, I sympathize with the poor guy.

DSK


Scott Vernon July 2nd 04 04:46 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
how do they keep the fuel oil off the water when they 'dump ballast'?

SBV

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships

in
the navy, possibly CG.


All Navy ships have the capability of ballasting with sea water, not just
"bigger ships."

In fact the newer gas turbine powered combatants *have* to be ballasted

because
there is no heavy boiler mounted down low in the hull. Their fuel storage

tanks
have a system that lets in seawater to the bottom of the tank as the fuel

is
sucked from the top.


Of course, he's since gone mad and I can't confirm.


It's difficult to adjust to shore life, I sympathize with the poor guy.

DSK



jlrogers±³© July 2nd 04 05:01 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 

Even better.

katysails wrote:
No,he said "pints". I think he wants to get you drunk.

2 pints would put me into a coma....


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.



jlrogers±³© July 2nd 04 05:07 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Years ago it was quite common. Sea water was added while fuel remained in
the tank. The fuel floated on top and was still usable. Environmental
concerns has about ended the practice, however.

Scout wrote:
I probably should have mentioned that he said they sometimes put the
water in their fuel (bunker C or #6) tanks. At least I believe that's
what he said.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
AFAIK most, if not all, freighters use water for ballast.
I loaded a box weighing 110K lbs. , onto a small ship in Balt. They
used the 2 ship cranes to pick it. The ship heeled over when they
tried to lift. Had to wait what , seemed like an hour, to fill the
starboard side ballast tank.

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger
ships in the navy, possibly CG. Of course, he's since gone mad and
I can't confirm. Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
...


otnmbrd wrote:

Only on Navy combatants .... otherwise there'd better NOT be any
sal****er in those main storage tanks .... water, maybe some
(from the fuel) but not sal****er.

On the big ships I did contract work on, more than a few (maybe
half?) had service or ready tanks and transferred fuel daily. The
really big diesels are apparently capable of gulping in a few
gallons of seawater now & then. The steamships aren't any problem
at all unless it is a big enough slug of water to put all the
burners out at once. Of course it's pretty bad for the machinery,
but why complain when we were making so much money fixing it?

A good thing, too. The wipers are *supposed* to check the
seperator bowls at least hourly, but I used to put notes on the
seperators in big letters

"Bring
Me
This
Note Immediately Upon Finding... $5 Reward" and had the whole
watch go by.



Main reason on larger vessels is to clean and for heavy fuel, to
get to right temp.

Just this past weekend, I was explaining to a guy with a big
motorsailer what a "cleavage manifold" was. That's always been one
of my favorite terms!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.



otnmbrd July 2nd 04 05:41 PM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 


DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:


Doug,
I had a friend who told me they use sea water as ballast on bigger ships in
the navy, possibly CG.



All Navy ships have the capability of ballasting with sea water, not just
"bigger ships."

In fact the newer gas turbine powered combatants *have* to be ballasted because
there is no heavy boiler mounted down low in the hull. Their fuel storage tanks
have a system that lets in seawater to the bottom of the tank as the fuel is
sucked from the top.


G Guess I need to clarify my statements.
For Navy combatants, see DSK's above.
For the majority of commercial, salt water ballast is kept separate from
fuel tanks, so that any water in the fuel tanks comes about the same way
as water in a small boats tanks. The fuel (#6, HFO, Bunker C ... all
names for the same BASIC stuff) is transferred from storage tanks to
settler tanks, then run through purifers/filters and pumped to day tanks
(been awhile, so the engineers can correct my errors). DFO/MDO (diesel)
is handled in much the same way.
On most newer ships, these tanks will never be used for sal****er ballast.
In the past, commercial ships used their double bottoms for fuel (always
got a kick outa this, after everyone started hollerin for DB's on
tankers cause freighters had them) and ballast, once the fuel had been
pumped out.
Where this practice was/is done, the tanks are "decanted" of water to a
level close to, but not at, the oil/water interface, prior to filling
with fuel again.
As you can imagine, this can lead to pumping amounts of oil overboard if
things don't go exactly right. Now, this might be acceptable for the
Navy, due to their operating parameters, but it will get a commercial
ship in a world of hurt .... and not being active Navy, I can't speak
for how well they do and how well their systems are designed to handle this.
The biggest problem with 6 oil when doing this, is that it is very close
to the weight of sal****er and the oil/water interface is not always
well defined.

otn


Michael July 3rd 04 12:48 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Newport News for two more weeks. Then back to Seattle and Port Townsend for
a month of schools and upgrades (200 ton and oceans with radar endorsement).
A couple of weeks working on the new boat etc. My good friends up in the
Pac NW area have been more than supportive in many ways. In fact a lot of
good friends up and down the coast fit that category. Then back to sea for
the last go round before I switch from diesels back to sails. Had a couple
of good offers in the long term charter skipper business and the delivery
business. The real key though is the upgrades I mentioned, especially going
from near coastal to oceans. Lot of difference, especially where insurance
companies concerned between the two. I think I can squeeze those jobs in
between going hither and yon and writing about it (my basic plan). For now
though I'm going to remain true, get the new boat done and it's turning into
a real gem!

Don't know if you read it elsewhere but if things go completely right I'm
trucking the boat to the Great Lakes, down the St. Lawrence, round the
corner and will be right by your bailiwick early next Summer. Then down
the coast to the islands and on, eventually, to Bequia back west and
eventually NW to Corpus and truck to San Diego. All part of an article I'm
doing for one of the magazines. Then lay over the summer in S. Cal with
some other friends awaiting the end of the storm season and on down to the
S.Pacific without the usual ho hum stops in Mexico again. That place is like
California without trees and after awhile it's just bribes and booze. If
things don't go well time wise then I'll just head South, hang a while at my
slip in California and go into the next, the Pacific part a bit early then
return back and do the East Coast trip a bit later. Either way it works for
me. The Pacific part? I'm thinking Juan Fernandez Islands off Chile and
just about have my good sailing buddy Kai talked into to doing that part
especially since it goes right by Easter Island. THEN back up to Hawaii
where he has his boat and re-create the voyage of the schooner Pau! At Samoa
where we stopped the last time I can go in acouple of directions, doesn't
matter. Lots of good things to write about just in this one paragraph.
I'm getting more into the idea of doing interesting alternatives to the
usual, everyone's done it a thousand times trips I guess. Too much panicky
deck fluff and overweight bar bunnies for me. You know . . .sail down wind,
truck up wind? Mights well watch reality TV. I guess I shouldn't be too
hard. Some can, some won't.

Don't know if you saw it or not but check the May issue of Lats and Att's
for an article called View From The Bridge. That's my first one. Next
article will be to the editor around theend of the month and we'll see if
lightning strikes twice. Actually, they asked for more!

Little surprise here and there my good buddy and someone many of you know,
the original skipper and creator of the Pau voyage has steered me in
theright direction with invaluable advice and editing. In a former life he
was a professional writer as it happens. And I might's well toot Ole Thom's
praises as well as this next article was caused by something he started
teaching me some years ago. Yep! I paid attention. It's called Emergency
Navigation for Yacht Crews as a working title. Not for the GPS and
Martooni set that's for sure. Just wind, waves, stars and fingers. Lucky I
have a few left!

'nuff of this . . . . Here's a question for you to pose.

What's a Seattle Head?

Cheers

Michael







"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
Good Michael. How are you doing?

Where are you now?

Michael wrote
I made a point of not reading the answers of the others but using this

as
a
good method to segue back into .asa.

Day Tank is one used for water or fuel. You have to fill it with the

amount
you want to use, per your rationing requirements. When it runs out you

are
done for that day.

How'd I do?

Michael

"Bart Senior" wrote
[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

How is it used?

Why would you want one?






Bart Senior July 3rd 04 04:44 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Good Michael. How are you doing?

Where are you now?

Michael wrote
I made a point of not reading the answers of the others but using this as

a
good method to segue back into .asa.

Day Tank is one used for water or fuel. You have to fill it with the

amount
you want to use, per your rationing requirements. When it runs out you

are
done for that day.

How'd I do?

Michael

"Bart Senior" wrote
[3 pts]

What is a day tank?

How is it used?

Why would you want one?




Michael July 3rd 04 11:31 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I don't think having a feed hose connected is de riguer for a day tank. As
I recall when the term is used for daily water ration it is often described
as something as simple as a one gallon jug. In the case of Thom's OB tank
however there would have to be another, presumably larger main tank
involved. If the OB tank was the only one on board then it wouldn't be the
day tank but the main fuel supply. Perhaps a betterway to describe that
would be using a five gallon fuel can (main tank) and the little tank atop
something like a SeaGull. If you stated that was your daily ration then it
would be a day tank. No feed line involved but the resulting spills would
surely get seventeen agencies gathered round for a MARPOL violation!

No points needed. I'm giving Katy a chance to catch up for the next month
at least!

M.

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
To answer your question, I'd say no, because there is no
other tank feeding it. Certainly the opposite viewpoint
could be argued.

Thank you Thom, because you just gave me the solution
to a problem. An outboard tank could be modified to be
used as a day tank for a diesel engine and give you a fuel
gauge too!

I can't think of any sailboats I've sailed that had a fuel gauge.
Most of the time I've banged on tanks and judged by sound
or used a measuring stick.

Even without a gauge, a red plastic outboard fuel tank is
translucent enough to judge ift you have enough fuel
to prevent the hassle of bleeding a diesel fuel system.

I've been thinking about mounting a day tank in ECHO and
you just gave me the cheap solution I was looking for! I
just need to figure out how and where to mount one.

Thom Stewart wrote

Question Bart?

Would you consider the remote fuel tank on an Outboard Aux a day tank?

Ole Thom






Bart Senior July 4th 04 05:45 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
I'll guess and say it's a board with a hole cut in it.

Michael wrote

What's a Seattle Head?




Thom Stewart July 4th 04 07:39 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
Question Bart?

Would you consider the remote fuel tank on an Outboard Aux a day tank?

Ole Thom


Bart Senior July 4th 04 09:11 AM

Question inspired by a Dutch sailor.
 
To answer your question, I'd say no, because there is no
other tank feeding it. Certainly the opposite viewpoint
could be argued.

Thank you Thom, because you just gave me the solution
to a problem. An outboard tank could be modified to be
used as a day tank for a diesel engine and give you a fuel
gauge too!

I can't think of any sailboats I've sailed that had a fuel gauge.
Most of the time I've banged on tanks and judged by sound
or used a measuring stick.

Even without a gauge, a red plastic outboard fuel tank is
translucent enough to judge ift you have enough fuel
to prevent the hassle of bleeding a diesel fuel system.

I've been thinking about mounting a day tank in ECHO and
you just gave me the cheap solution I was looking for! I
just need to figure out how and where to mount one.

Thom Stewart wrote

Question Bart?

Would you consider the remote fuel tank on an Outboard Aux a day tank?

Ole Thom





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