Bobsprit wrote:

The Boat: Cape Dory 36
Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach

What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or vessels
in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal when you
heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay adjuster
is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing. The
boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but it's
happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were trailing.
Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self to the
stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't pull the
ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing you down
fast.

What can you do????


Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus
ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding
400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was
actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position
without taking additional precautions.

I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an
international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty),
where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of
mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they
wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person,
and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way,
those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the
height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore
may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put
themselves at risk to retrieve the fools.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Flying Tadpole wrote in message ...
Bobsprit wrote:

The Boat: Cape Dory 36
Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach

What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or vessels
in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal when you
heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay adjuster
is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing. The
boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but it's
happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were trailing.
Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self to the
stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't pull the
ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing you down
fast.

What can you do????




Turn the rudder with your feet to head upwind and stop the boat.

Joe




Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus
ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding
400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was
actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position
without taking additional precautions.

I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an
international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty),
where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of
mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they
wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person,
and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way,
those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the
height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore
may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put
themselves at risk to retrieve the fools.

Joe wrote:

Flying Tadpole wrote in message ...
Bobsprit wrote:

The Boat: Cape Dory 36
Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach

What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or vessels
in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal when you
heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay adjuster
is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing. The
boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but it's
happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were trailing.
Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self to the
stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't pull the
ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing you down
fast.

What can you do????



Turn the rudder with your feet to head upwind and stop the boat.

Joe

That wasn't my post but here's an answer: on Lady Kate you'd
never reach the rudder with any sort of water flow. I would
think the same goes for any sailboat that doesn't have a
transom-mounted rudder. More to the point, if you must trail a
line then attach it to the tiller so that if you did grab it in
the suicide scenario it'd smash the self steering, set the boat
aback and dismast. Wheel steering? Take another breath of water.
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

I'm surprised no one offers a gizmo that would electronically undo the
autopilot if the rope is pulled hard enough. IIRC my autopilot has a
'deadman' setting, I believe you must reset it every 15 minutes or it will
steer upwind(?).

Scotty

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:

Flying Tadpole wrote in message
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Bobsprit wrote:

The Boat: Cape Dory 36
Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach

What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land
or vessels
in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a
meal when you
heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the
backstay adjuster
is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft
railing. The
boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but
it's
happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were
trailing.
Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your
self to the
stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't
pull the
ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is
wearing you down
fast.

What can you do????



Turn the rudder with your feet to head upwind and stop the boat.

Joe

That wasn't my post but here's an answer: on Lady Kate you'd
never reach the rudder with any sort of water flow. I would
think the same goes for any sailboat that doesn't have a
transom-mounted rudder. More to the point, if you must trail a
line then attach it to the tiller so that if you did grab it in
the suicide scenario it'd smash the self steering, set the boat
aback and dismast. Wheel steering? Take another breath of water.
--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Am not You are.


RB
"Bobspirt" wrote in message ...
After all the posts slamming many others around here, RB takes a little beating
in return and what happens? He turns tail and runs away. Seems he can dish
it, but can't take it. Somehow, that doesn't surprise. It is in keeping with
his timidity in all things requiring a little fortitude.

After all the posts slamming many others around here, RB takes a little
beating
in return and what happens? He turns tail and runs away. Seems he can dish
it, but can't take it. Somehow, that doesn't surprise. It is in keeping
with
his timidity in all things requiring a little fortitude.

What a wimp! Bobsprit beats you like a rented mule too many times to
even count. As soon as he's not around you start talking "big".

That's not what you said in the other thread, you schizo. Anyway, you are not
worth battling - too easy. Live long, buddy.

The boats on autohelm... I don't think it would work even if you could
reach it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Flying Tadpole wrote in message
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Bobsprit wrote:

The Boat: Cape Dory 36
Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach

What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land
or vessels
in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal
when you
heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay
adjuster
is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft
railing. The
boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but
it's
happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were
trailing.
Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your
self to the
stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't
pull the
ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing
you down
fast.

What can you do????




Turn the rudder with your feet to head upwind and stop the boat.

Joe




Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus
ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding
400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was
actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position
without taking additional precautions.

I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an
international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty),
where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of
mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they
wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person,
and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way,
those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the
height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore
may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put
themselves at risk to retrieve the fools.

I have to concur with that Tadpole..... plus any fool out that far and
using an Autohelm 4000 instead of a wind vane never mind no jack lines, no
harness....

I loved that little bit about a 15 ft line towed behind.... which would be
well past you before you surfaced from any fall..... combined with the
fact you can't pull yourself up a towed line at 4.5 knots.

It's a Bob dream play... could never be duplicated in real life but Bob
can't understand that reality since he has no experience.

My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the
Warp Engines offline. ;-)

CM


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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|
|
| Bobsprit wrote:
|
| The Boat: Cape Dory 36
| Conditions: Fair, boat speed 4.5 knots on a reach
|
| What a disaster! You were sailing alone, 400 miles offshore. No land or
vessels
| in sight. Your Autohelm 4000 autopilot engaged you sat down for a meal
when you
| heard a strange noise. Back on deck you see that part of the backstay
adjuster
| is coming loose. You get to work and place your foot on the aft railing.
The
| boat lurches from a gust and wave. It's a one in a million shot, but
it's
| happened. You've fallen off the boat!!!!
| You spin fast in the water and grab the 15 foot long line you were
trailing.
| Slowly, chocking on water rushing over you, you manage to pull your self
to the
| stern. It's exhausting, but you make it to the stern. Only you can't
pull the
| ladder down!!! You can't get aboard. The rush of cold water is wearing
you down
| fast.
|
| What can you do????
|
|
| Stick your face underwater and take a REALLY deep breath, thus
| ridding the gene pool of an idiot who not only was singlehanding
| 400mi offshore without any sort of tether/lifeline, but was
| actually stupid enough to go working in an exposed position
| without taking additional precautions.
|
| I propose that there be a Fool's Act put up, or perhaps an
| international treaty (Foolish Activities Rescue Refusal Treaty),
| where anyone in their majority, regardless of their soundness of
| mind or not, be permitted to indulge in whatever stupidity they
| wish to, provided it neither physically damages another person,
| and provided that they waive all rights to rescue. That way,
| those who want to cross the SImpson Desert without water in the
| height of summer are free to, those who wish to suicide offshore
| may do so, and no-one (who doesn't actually desire to) need put
| themselves at risk to retrieve the fools.
|
| --
| Flying Tadpole
|
| -------------------------
| Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
| now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:



My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking the
Warp Engines offline. ;-)


That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote:
|
|
|
| My answer to Bob's scenario would be to activate my remote Transporter
| Beacon and rematerialize aboard in a set of dry clothes prior to taking
the
| Warp Engines offline. ;-)
|
|
| That would worke for one such as you, frequently spaced out...

May the Farce Be With You Tadpole Pond Skimmer!

Has anyone mentioned the similarity in design between a Bolger Box and a
Borg Cube? ;-P

Resistance is Futile.... You will be Assimilated!

CM