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Scott Vernon June 26th 04 05:54 PM

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Anybody need a cradle. I was offered the shipping cradle from a Jeanneau
54'. I was talking to the boat hauler picking up the Jeanneau down at the
Balt. piers. Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus and
Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__


Bobsprit June 27th 04 12:39 AM

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Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus and
Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.


Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to get you a
bit of money for them.

RB

Capt. Mooron June 27th 04 01:01 AM

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Bob... just drive to the Baltimore Piers and ask to purchase them. I'm
certain they would be happy to get rid of them. Then you could hire Scotty
to pick them up for you

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
| expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
| Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus and
| Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.
|
|
| Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to get
you a
| bit of money for them.
|
| RB



Scott Vernon June 27th 04 03:13 AM

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He he, he's such an easy catch.

SV

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Bob... just drive to the Baltimore Piers and ask to purchase them. I'm
certain they would be happy to get rid of them. Then you could hire Scotty
to pick them up for you

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
| expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
| Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus

and
| Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.
|
|
| Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to

get
you a
| bit of money for them.
|
| RB




Capt. Mooron June 27th 04 04:02 AM

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It's just way too easy these days... ;-)

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| He he, he's such an easy catch.
|
| SV
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Bob... just drive to the Baltimore Piers and ask to purchase them. I'm
| certain they would be happy to get rid of them. Then you could hire
Scotty
| to pick them up for you
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| | Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
| | expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
| | Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus
| and
| | Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.
| |
| |
| | Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to
| get
| you a
| | bit of money for them.
| |
| | RB
|
|
|



Scott Vernon June 27th 04 04:04 AM

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"Bobsprit" wrote

Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to get

you a
bit of money for them.


Yes, it's for real, I don't bull**** like you do.

SV


Bobsprit June 27th 04 04:07 AM

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He he, he's such an easy catch.



Doesn't matter to me. If you have them, I know a club that would pay for them.
Spite. Nose...and your face.

RB

Bobsprit June 27th 04 04:08 AM

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Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to get
you a
bit of money for them.


Yes, it's for real, I don't bull**** like you do.


Well, then e-mail and I'll put you in touch with a yard that might be
interested in paying for them. Doesn't matter to me either way.

RB

Capt. Mooron June 27th 04 04:31 AM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
| Well, then e-mail and I'll put you in touch with a yard that might be
| interested in paying for them. Doesn't matter to me either way.

List them on Ebay?

CM



jlrogers±³© June 28th 04 01:55 PM

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Booby and Scotty sitting in a tree
Kay I SS I N G




Bobsprit wrote:
Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus
and Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.


Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to
get you a bit of money for them.

RB


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.



Scott Vernon June 29th 04 12:20 AM

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OH, GROW UP !

"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message
...
Booby and Scotty sitting in a tree
Kay I SS I N G




Bobsprit wrote:
Seems that when they ship them over, it's not worth the
expense to return the cradle. He said I could have it if I wanted it.
Actually, there is a pile (12~15) of cradles from different Jeanneaus
and Bendytoes sitting there. They will be scrapped shortly.


Scotty, if this is for "real" contact me offline and I may be able to
get you a bit of money for them.

RB


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.




Scott Vernon June 29th 04 12:31 AM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On 28 Jun 2004 23:20:37 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

OH, GROW UP !

I think he grew up and is now slipping into senility..



Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty


Scott Vernon June 29th 04 12:40 AM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On 28 Jun 2004 23:31:23 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

...
On 28 Jun 2004 23:20:37 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

OH, GROW UP !

I think he grew up and is now slipping into senility..



Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty


Big bathtub?


Who, Katy?


katysails June 29th 04 01:05 AM

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Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty

You want to make something of that statement? Huh? You think you'd have a
grand time on Lake Michigan lollygagging around like you do on your great
still water Bay...a shallow bay at that????

--
katysails
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Kirie Elite 32
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katysails June 29th 04 01:07 AM

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Who, Katy?

Now you doned it.....I am posting your post on all the great Lakes
newsgroups....you gonna be hash....
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Nav June 29th 04 02:03 AM

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Scott Vernon wrote:

OzOne wrote in message ...

On 28 Jun 2004 23:20:37 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OH, GROW UP !


I think he grew up and is now slipping into senility..




Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.


Good one! LOL

Cheers


Scott Vernon June 29th 04 02:33 AM

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"Nav" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

OzOne wrote in message

...

On 28 Jun 2004 23:20:37 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OH, GROW UP !


I think he grew up and is now slipping into senility..




Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.


Good one! LOL



shhhhhhhh, Katy didn't get it.
;)


Scott Vernon June 29th 04 02:37 AM

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty

You want to make something of that statement? Huh? You think you'd have

a
grand time on Lake Michigan lollygagging around like you do on your great
still water Bay...a shallow bay at that????

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Scott Vernon June 29th 04 02:38 AM

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"katysails" wrote in message
...
Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty

You want to make something of that statement? Huh? You think you'd have

a
grand time on Lake Michigan lollygagging around like you do on your great
still water Bay...a shallow bay at that????


where one must be a good navigator to not run aground. besides, we only get
6'' waves according to one here.

Scotty


Scott Vernon June 29th 04 02:45 AM

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Do you deny being a lake sailor?

SV

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty

You want to make something of that statement? Huh? You think you'd have

a
grand time on Lake Michigan lollygagging around like you do on your great
still water Bay...a shallow bay at that????

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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jlrogers±³© June 29th 04 03:12 AM

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I keep my boat in fresh water, where it is safe. But I just single-handed a
friend's from Key West to Clear Lake Shores. And EXXON apoligized for their
platform being in the way.

Scott Vernon wrote:
OzOne wrote in message
...
On 28 Jun 2004 23:20:37 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

OH, GROW UP !

I think he grew up and is now slipping into senility..



Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Scotty


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Eschew Obfuscation.



SAIL LOCO June 29th 04 03:41 AM

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I keep my boat in fresh water, where it is safe..

Safe from what? I've seen more fresh water boats with blisters than salt water
boats.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

katysails June 29th 04 11:17 AM

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MC snorted: Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.


Good one! LOL

Another one who doesn't know what they're talking about when it comes to the
Great Lakes....

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Kirie Elite 32
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katysails June 29th 04 11:18 AM

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Scotty whispered: -- shhhhhhhh, Katy didn't get it.
;)

Yes, she did...and am taking action immediately....

katysails
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katysails June 29th 04 11:20 AM

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Scotty said: where one must be a good navigator to not run aground

That's really lame...by that criteria, any inland lake sailor is a better
navigator than most....

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katysails June 29th 04 11:21 AM

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Scotty asked: Do you deny being a lake sailor?

Deny it?!?!? I'm proud of it.....If you can sail through a raging storm on
Lake Michigan, you can sail through most anything the ocean can throw at
you....

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Scott Vernon June 29th 04 11:29 AM

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bad hair day? bad time of the month?


"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scotty said: where one must be a good navigator to not run aground

That's really lame...by that criteria, any inland lake sailor is a better
navigator than most....

--
katysails
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Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Scott Vernon June 29th 04 11:43 AM

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well, yes. That was my point all along.

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scotty asked: Do you deny being a lake sailor?

Deny it?!?!? I'm proud of it.....If you can sail through a raging storm

on
Lake Michigan, you can sail through most anything the ocean can throw at
you....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Flying Tadpole June 29th 04 11:46 AM

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katysails wrote:

MC snorted: Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.


Good one! LOL

Another one who doesn't know what they're talking about when it comes to the
Great Lakes....


I'd fire up antoher verse of Edmund Fitzgerald, but it's far too
good and far too serious for this forum...

--
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-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Bobsprit June 29th 04 12:11 PM

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I keep my boat in fresh water, where it is safe..

Safe from what? I've seen more fresh water boats with blisters than salt water
boats.


What a dope. There's a simple reason why more blister cases are reported for
salt water boats.
But Loco the Dope is too simple to figure it out.

RB




Bobsprit June 29th 04 12:33 PM

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What a dope. There's a simple reason why more blister cases are reported for
salt water boats.
But Loco the Dope is too simple to figure it out.

RB


Perhaps you could explain the reasons for this Bubbles, rather than
just dis the fool.


Sure, Ozzy. More cases are reported in salt water because MORE FG boats are IN
salt water, especially in full season climates. It's not even close.

RB

Bobsprit June 29th 04 01:11 PM

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Can you explain why the percentage of boats that have blisters in
fresh water is higher than in salt?

I know that osmosis occurs faster in fresh water...something to do with
density/salinity factor I think.
Can you explain in a clear manner?

Thanks,

RB

Martin Baxter June 29th 04 03:16 PM

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OzOne wrote:
On 29 Jun 2004 12:11:28 GMT, (Bobsprit) scribbled
thusly:


Can you explain why the percentage of boats that have blisters in
fresh water is higher than in salt?

I know that osmosis occurs faster in fresh water...something to do with
density/salinity factor I think.
Can you explain in a clear manner?

Thanks,

RB


ahh that'll do but to put it as simply as possible, fresh water is
lighter and thinner than salt so it gets in easier.


Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up? More likely fresh water exhibits a higher osmotic pressure because the difference in water
concentration is greater in fresh than brine. (osmotic pressure being proportional to the differences in concentration on either side of the membrane)


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Scott Vernon June 29th 04 10:52 PM

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"Martin Baxter" wrote

ahh that'll do but to put it as simply as possible, fresh water is
lighter and thinner than salt so it gets in easier.


Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up? More likely fresh

water exhibits a higher osmotic pressure because the difference in water
concentration is greater in fresh than brine. (osmotic pressure being

proportional to the differences in concentration on either side of the
membrane)

Even though Marty has the clap, he still sounds smart.

SV



Nav June 29th 04 10:56 PM

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Flying Tadpole wrote:


katysails wrote:

MC snorted: Nah, I believe his boat is on a fresh water lake.

Good one! LOL

Another one who doesn't know what they're talking about when it comes to the
Great Lakes....



I'd fire up antoher verse of Edmund Fitzgerald, but it's far too
good and far too serious for this forum...

You missed the pun too? You must be tired!

Cheers


Nav June 29th 04 10:59 PM

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Martin Baxter wrote:

OzOne wrote:

On 29 Jun 2004 12:11:28 GMT, (Bobsprit) scribbled
thusly:


Can you explain why the percentage of boats that have blisters in
fresh water is higher than in salt?

I know that osmosis occurs faster in fresh water...something to do with
density/salinity factor I think.
Can you explain in a clear manner?

Thanks,

RB



ahh that'll do but to put it as simply as possible, fresh water is
lighter and thinner than salt so it gets in easier.



Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up? More likely fresh
water exhibits a higher osmotic pressure because the difference in water
concentration is greater in fresh than brine. (osmotic pressure being
proportional to the differences in concentration on either side of the
membrane)



Very close, but the osmotic pressure of fresh water is low.

Cheers


Flying Tadpole June 29th 04 11:13 PM

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Scott Vernon wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote

ahh that'll do but to put it as simply as possible, fresh water is
lighter and thinner than salt so it gets in easier.


Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up? More likely fresh

water exhibits a higher osmotic pressure because the difference in water
concentration is greater in fresh than brine. (osmotic pressure being

proportional to the differences in concentration on either side of the
membrane)

Even though Marty has the clap, he still sounds smart.


Or perhaps a faint fairy clap? My memory which may be atfault lo,
these many years, is that "osmosis" and "osmotic pressure" are
labels describing a process which is known to happen and easily
demonstrated and measured, just like gravity and which, just like
gravity, no-one knows what it actually is.

Nav (or others) here's your chance to put the Tadpole down. It's
been a long time since I consciously studied physiology.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
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now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Nav June 29th 04 11:15 PM

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OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:16:39 -0400, Martin Baxter
scribbled thusly:



Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up?



Yep
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/21_397.html



Ahem. How hot is your sal****er?

Cheers



Nav June 29th 04 11:27 PM

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Flying Tadpole wrote:


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote

ahh that'll do but to put it as simply as possible, fresh water is
lighter and thinner than salt so it gets in easier.

Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up? More likely fresh


water exhibits a higher osmotic pressure because the difference in water

concentration is greater in fresh than brine. (osmotic pressure being


proportional to the differences in concentration on either side of the
membrane)

Even though Marty has the clap, he still sounds smart.



Or perhaps a faint fairy clap? My memory which may be atfault lo,
these many years, is that "osmosis" and "osmotic pressure" are
labels describing a process which is known to happen and easily
demonstrated and measured, just like gravity and which, just like
gravity, no-one knows what it actually is.

Nav (or others) here's your chance to put the Tadpole down. It's
been a long time since I consciously studied physiology.


Why would telling you someting about science be putting you down? By the
way, osmotic pressure is derivable from first principles (see
thermodynamics).

Cheers



Nav June 29th 04 11:30 PM

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OzOne wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:15:22 +1200, Nav
scribbled thusly:



OzOne wrote:


On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:16:39 -0400, Martin Baxter
scribbled thusly:




Thinner? You have some viscosity data to back this up?


Yep
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/21_397.html



Ahem. How hot is your sal****er?

Cheers


Awww gets up to about 28c up north..warmer sometimes .


That's warm but is it warmer than the fresh water you are thinking about?

Cheers



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