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Bobsprit June 26th 04 04:28 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 

Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious republicans.
I was interested to see how the audience reacted as well.
Quite a few people cried during the movie. My friends won't be voting for Bush.
Some elements of the movie are clearly and obviously low blows, but there's
simply too much to ignore, too many facts presented through Bush contradicting
himself days apart and so on. Anyone who thinks oil played no part in the war
needs to see the film. Is the film a slanted view? You're damn right. Are there
facts in the film as well? You're damn right.
If you haven't seen it, then you don't have all of the info. You're afraid to
have your views challenged. Go see the movie, then get back to me. It's easy to
see why the republicans want a ban on this film's advertising.
But here's the clincher. The movie is NOT anti republican. It's anti BUSH, who
is really not a republican at all. See the movie, THEN you'll be qualified to
comment.
Did I cry during the movie? Yes, I did. I don't know what kind of person could
watch this film and not be moved by the plight of Iraq civilians and our own
American troops being used like pawns.
What a disaster Bush has brought on the US and the world. He'll soon be
stopped, but too late for too many. Moore's freedom as an artist will
(thankfully) be a final blow to Bush and his people in the political machine.

RB

Philip Carroll June 26th 04 08:52 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
What Bob said. Go see it for yourself (I saw it last night) Investigate
anything you think was taken out of context or fabricated, THEN talk. It
will open many eyes. I laughed and I cried. and laughed again, then
strangely felt a bit ashamed at my laughter in places. And any one who
thinks Michael Moore is not a patriot is very wrong.
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious

republicans.
I was interested to see how the audience reacted as well.
Quite a few people cried during the movie. My friends won't be voting for

Bush.
Some elements of the movie are clearly and obviously low blows, but

there's
simply too much to ignore, too many facts presented through Bush

contradicting
himself days apart and so on. Anyone who thinks oil played no part in the

war
needs to see the film. Is the film a slanted view? You're damn right. Are

there
facts in the film as well? You're damn right.
If you haven't seen it, then you don't have all of the info. You're afraid

to
have your views challenged. Go see the movie, then get back to me. It's

easy to
see why the republicans want a ban on this film's advertising.
But here's the clincher. The movie is NOT anti republican. It's anti BUSH,

who
is really not a republican at all. See the movie, THEN you'll be qualified

to
comment.
Did I cry during the movie? Yes, I did. I don't know what kind of person

could
watch this film and not be moved by the plight of Iraq civilians and our

own
American troops being used like pawns.
What a disaster Bush has brought on the US and the world. He'll soon be
stopped, but too late for too many. Moore's freedom as an artist will
(thankfully) be a final blow to Bush and his people in the political

machine.

RB




Thom Stewart June 26th 04 09:48 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Nutsy,

You're getting loose with the truth again. I, like all of ASA have
serious doughts about you having two friends that will stay with you for
over a hour. Most of all; two Republican friend (g)

They weren't crying because of the Movie. Nutsy, it was the company they
had to endure.

That is if any of the story is more than a Fairytale.


Thom Stewart June 26th 04 09:55 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Nutsy,

Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.

Ole Thom

One of the silent moderates


Bobsprit June 27th 04 12:21 AM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.


Thom, you're a prime example of someone who doesn't want to hear anything that
might shake up the world you believe in. I guess it's easier for you that way.
But it's also a shame. Meanwhile, making silly insults in well beneath you.

RB

Philip Carroll June 27th 04 02:06 AM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
4 years of war and record defcits, you're right, George has done quite a
bit.
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.

Ole Thom

One of the silent moderates




Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 07:05 AM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Yep... Bu**** has done everything... to avoid the truth and keep himself,
his daddy, and his friends in dollar. He did everything he could to stay
out of Vietnam.

Kerry on the other hand, has a long history as a senator, he served
honorably in VN, was wounded several times, and received two
medals for bravery.

That's why.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.

Ole Thom

One of the silent moderates




Horvath June 27th 04 12:26 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:05:45 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Kerry on the other hand, has a long history as a senator, he served
honorably in VN, was wounded several times, and received two
medals for bravery.



Kerry has a long history of being absent from the Senate, running home
to mommy after four months in Vietnam, and taking awards he didn't
earn. (One for shooting a man in the back.)

The only thing Kerry's ever done right is to marry rich.

Why would anyone ever vote for him?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Bob Crantz June 27th 04 04:26 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

JUST LIKE GOD, HE HATES YOU TOO!!!!!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.


Thom, you're a prime example of someone who doesn't want to hear anything

that
might shake up the world you believe in. I guess it's easier for you that

way.
But it's also a shame. Meanwhile, making silly insults in well beneath

you.

RB




SAIL LOCO June 27th 04 04:53 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Kerry on the other hand, has a long history as a senator, he served
honorably in VN, was wounded several times, and received two
medals for bravery.

Truth: Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months. How did he pull that off? His
medals were for beaching his Swift boat (a real no no) and running ashore to
shoot a single VC who was already down and half dead from being shot by the
boats 50 cal. Others have said they don't know why he wasn't court martialed
for beaching the boat.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Joe June 27th 04 05:15 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious republicans.


I watched Bad Santa last night. Wanted to see something with a bit of
truth in it.

Also The Tuscanny Sun. Great movie VERY visualty pleasing and an
excellent story line. Not a hodge poge of lies and half truths from a
one sided brain washed fat slob whos only goal is to get kerry
elected. Moore could care less about the Iraqi people. Did he show the
merchants of Bagdad that saddam chopped of thier hands? Did he show
the clips of Uday beating soccer players then dunking them in pools of
sewage? Did he show Oday raping women in front of thier husbands? How
about uday running swords thru people for fun? Hows about coverage of
the Kurds he gasses, the little babies swollen in the sun covered with
blisters from Mustard gas and sarin. Did he show that Bob? Did he show
Saddam paying of the famileys of the palistines people that vaporize
them selfs in crowds in Isreal? Did he show the ten years of Sam
missles being shot at American planes in the no fly zone? Did he show
the tape of when Saddam first came to power dragging people out and
shooting them because he thought they might disagree with him? Guess
he forgot all that huh? Did he show the people jumping out of the
towers and splattering on the concrete instead of being burned to
death? Did he show how compacted an airplane can become in a field in
PA? Did he interview all the 911 orphans and get thier opinions? Did
he show Kerry tossing someone elses medels over the fence in
washington, How about Kerry sucking up to Jane Fonda? How about Kerry
admitting he burned villages and killed civilians in Vietnam? Did he
tell everyone how Kerry was wounded 3 times in a few month including a
scratch on his arm so he could leave vietnam well before his tour was
up? Forgot that huh? How about the Iraqi Women that get stoned to
death for showing thier faces in public? Did he mention the women
could not get an education in Saddams Iraq?


Joe

Thom Stewart June 27th 04 05:46 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Hey Nutsy,

Kerry was on Bush's case about the Economy ( Which is recovering rather
nicely) He has been campaigning on jobs (Which have growing each month)
Kerry has been saying he would repair the bridges with our allies (It
sure looks like Bush is doing that) He said he (Kerry) would get others
involved in Iraq ( Looks like Bush has NATO backing) He said he would
reduce the size of our forces in Iraq (Looks to me like we are
disengaging right now) The Stock Market is up

Nutsy, I'm a registered Demo. but I'm not a straight party voter. I
won't vote for Bush, but I wish we had a better choice

OT


Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 06:09 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
He, unlike you, is intelligent enough to recognize that the Dem party
is a long way from where it should be. Kerry is no great leader, but
a lame mutt is better that that liar in the White House.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
link.net...
http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix.htm

JUST LIKE GOD, HE HATES YOU TOO!!!!!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.


Thom, you're a prime example of someone who doesn't want to hear

anything
that
might shake up the world you believe in. I guess it's easier for you

that
way.
But it's also a shame. Meanwhile, making silly insults in well beneath

you.

RB






Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 06:15 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
The economy isn't "recovering nicely" unless you flip burgers for a living.
Bu**** isn't repairing anything with our allies. He still thinks he can
bully
them. They still have no respect for half of what he says. Bush has not
got NATO involvement, except for some training... no new NATO troops.
He should have had three times as many troops in Iraq to begin with.
Instead,
he's keeping soldiers there for an indefinite period. The stock market is
about
back to where it was pre-911. I wouldn't call that "up." It's not a good
predictor
of the economy in general in any case.

You need to get your facts straight. Go see F911. 99% of the stuff was in
the
public record. Read Richard Clarke's book. Listen to what the dozens of
generals
and US diplomats have to say about Bu****'s policies. Listen to Bu****'s own
words and those of Condi prior to 911 at during the 911 commission hearings.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Nutsy,

Kerry was on Bush's case about the Economy ( Which is recovering rather
nicely) He has been campaigning on jobs (Which have growing each month)
Kerry has been saying he would repair the bridges with our allies (It
sure looks like Bush is doing that) He said he (Kerry) would get others
involved in Iraq ( Looks like Bush has NATO backing) He said he would
reduce the size of our forces in Iraq (Looks to me like we are
disengaging right now) The Stock Market is up

Nutsy, I'm a registered Demo. but I'm not a straight party voter. I
won't vote for Bush, but I wish we had a better choice

OT




Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 06:16 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
This is some pretty deep thinking from a guy like you
who races for fags, I mean flags.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:05:45 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Kerry on the other hand, has a long history as a senator, he served
honorably in VN, was wounded several times, and received two
medals for bravery.



Kerry has a long history of being absent from the Senate, running home
to mommy after four months in Vietnam, and taking awards he didn't
earn. (One for shooting a man in the back.)

The only thing Kerry's ever done right is to marry rich.

Why would anyone ever vote for him?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 06:18 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
You obviously haven't read the actual account of the situation,
nor listened to his fellow sailors. They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Kerry on the other hand, has a long history as a senator, he served
honorably in VN, was wounded several times, and received two
medals for bravery.

Truth: Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months. How did he pull that off? His
medals were for beaching his Swift boat (a real no no) and running ashore

to
shoot a single VC who was already down and half dead from being shot by

the
boats 50 cal. Others have said they don't know why he wasn't court

martialed
for beaching the boat.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"




Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 06:18 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
You're deluded.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message

...
Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious

republicans.

I watched Bad Santa last night. Wanted to see something with a bit of
truth in it.

Also The Tuscanny Sun. Great movie VERY visualty pleasing and an
excellent story line. Not a hodge poge of lies and half truths from a
one sided brain washed fat slob whos only goal is to get kerry
elected. Moore could care less about the Iraqi people. Did he show the
merchants of Bagdad that saddam chopped of thier hands? Did he show
the clips of Uday beating soccer players then dunking them in pools of
sewage? Did he show Oday raping women in front of thier husbands? How
about uday running swords thru people for fun? Hows about coverage of
the Kurds he gasses, the little babies swollen in the sun covered with
blisters from Mustard gas and sarin. Did he show that Bob? Did he show
Saddam paying of the famileys of the palistines people that vaporize
them selfs in crowds in Isreal? Did he show the ten years of Sam
missles being shot at American planes in the no fly zone? Did he show
the tape of when Saddam first came to power dragging people out and
shooting them because he thought they might disagree with him? Guess
he forgot all that huh? Did he show the people jumping out of the
towers and splattering on the concrete instead of being burned to
death? Did he show how compacted an airplane can become in a field in
PA? Did he interview all the 911 orphans and get thier opinions? Did
he show Kerry tossing someone elses medels over the fence in
washington, How about Kerry sucking up to Jane Fonda? How about Kerry
admitting he burned villages and killed civilians in Vietnam? Did he
tell everyone how Kerry was wounded 3 times in a few month including a
scratch on his arm so he could leave vietnam well before his tour was
up? Forgot that huh? How about the Iraqi Women that get stoned to
death for showing thier faces in public? Did he mention the women
could not get an education in Saddams Iraq?


Joe




Barfin' Bob June 27th 04 07:42 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 


Jonathan Ganz wrote:
You obviously haven't read the actual account of the situation,
nor listened to his fellow sailors. They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.


You obviously have never served in the military.


Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 08:56 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
You obviously have no clue.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Barfin' Bob" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:
You obviously haven't read the actual account of the situation,
nor listened to his fellow sailors. They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.


You obviously have never served in the military.




Horvath June 27th 04 10:36 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:33:45 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


Kerry has a long history of being absent from the Senate, running home
to mommy after four months in Vietnam, and taking awards he didn't
earn. (One for shooting a man in the back.)

The only thing Kerry's ever done right is to marry rich.

Why would anyone ever vote for him?


Ummmbecause he's not a lying arsehole like you and your mate Bushy;-)



What part of "Lying to the Senate, and shooting someone in the back"
do you fail to understand?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath June 27th 04 10:38 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:16:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

This is some pretty deep thinking from a guy like you
who races for fags, I mean flags.


You're kind of obsessed about those flags, or is it fags?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 11:10 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
The part between your ears.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:33:45 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


Kerry has a long history of being absent from the Senate, running home
to mommy after four months in Vietnam, and taking awards he didn't
earn. (One for shooting a man in the back.)

The only thing Kerry's ever done right is to marry rich.

Why would anyone ever vote for him?


Ummmbecause he's not a lying arsehole like you and your mate Bushy;-)



What part of "Lying to the Senate, and shooting someone in the back"
do you fail to understand?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Jonathan Ganz June 27th 04 11:11 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
At least you admit that you race for fags!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:16:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

This is some pretty deep thinking from a guy like you
who races for fags, I mean flags.


You're kind of obsessed about those flags, or is it fags?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




Joe June 27th 04 11:24 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
You're deluded.


Gee I guess that means he did not show all I mentioned.

All the sick jerk did is exploit dying americans for political
reasons. Did you like the part of his film when the local Iraqi's
burned , hung, trampled drug thru the streets the guys that were there
to help the locals get food & rebuild the country? What a low life
scumball.

Joe


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message

...
Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious

republicans.

I watched Bad Santa last night. Wanted to see something with a bit of
truth in it.

Also The Tuscanny Sun. Great movie VERY visualty pleasing and an
excellent story line. Not a hodge poge of lies and half truths from a
one sided brain washed fat slob whos only goal is to get kerry
elected. Moore could care less about the Iraqi people. Did he show the
merchants of Bagdad that saddam chopped of thier hands? Did he show
the clips of Uday beating soccer players then dunking them in pools of
sewage? Did he show Oday raping women in front of thier husbands? How
about uday running swords thru people for fun? Hows about coverage of
the Kurds he gasses, the little babies swollen in the sun covered with
blisters from Mustard gas and sarin. Did he show that Bob? Did he show
Saddam paying of the famileys of the palistines people that vaporize
them selfs in crowds in Isreal? Did he show the ten years of Sam
missles being shot at American planes in the no fly zone? Did he show
the tape of when Saddam first came to power dragging people out and
shooting them because he thought they might disagree with him? Guess
he forgot all that huh? Did he show the people jumping out of the
towers and splattering on the concrete instead of being burned to
death? Did he show how compacted an airplane can become in a field in
PA? Did he interview all the 911 orphans and get thier opinions? Did
he show Kerry tossing someone elses medels over the fence in
washington, How about Kerry sucking up to Jane Fonda? How about Kerry
admitting he burned villages and killed civilians in Vietnam? Did he
tell everyone how Kerry was wounded 3 times in a few month including a
scratch on his arm so he could leave vietnam well before his tour was
up? Forgot that huh? How about the Iraqi Women that get stoned to
death for showing thier faces in public? Did he mention the women
could not get an education in Saddams Iraq?


Joe


Jonathan Ganz June 28th 04 12:05 AM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
So, what's your point? If we didn't go there under false pretenses,
those people wouldn't have died. Bu**** is responsible ultimately.
It was horrible and illustrative of Bu****'s crimes.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
You're deluded.


Gee I guess that means he did not show all I mentioned.

All the sick jerk did is exploit dying americans for political
reasons. Did you like the part of his film when the local Iraqi's
burned , hung, trampled drug thru the streets the guys that were there
to help the locals get food & rebuild the country? What a low life
scumball.

Joe


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message

...
Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious

republicans.

I watched Bad Santa last night. Wanted to see something with a bit of
truth in it.

Also The Tuscanny Sun. Great movie VERY visualty pleasing and an
excellent story line. Not a hodge poge of lies and half truths from a
one sided brain washed fat slob whos only goal is to get kerry
elected. Moore could care less about the Iraqi people. Did he show the
merchants of Bagdad that saddam chopped of thier hands? Did he show
the clips of Uday beating soccer players then dunking them in pools of
sewage? Did he show Oday raping women in front of thier husbands? How
about uday running swords thru people for fun? Hows about coverage of
the Kurds he gasses, the little babies swollen in the sun covered with
blisters from Mustard gas and sarin. Did he show that Bob? Did he show
Saddam paying of the famileys of the palistines people that vaporize
them selfs in crowds in Isreal? Did he show the ten years of Sam
missles being shot at American planes in the no fly zone? Did he show
the tape of when Saddam first came to power dragging people out and
shooting them because he thought they might disagree with him? Guess
he forgot all that huh? Did he show the people jumping out of the
towers and splattering on the concrete instead of being burned to
death? Did he show how compacted an airplane can become in a field in
PA? Did he interview all the 911 orphans and get thier opinions? Did
he show Kerry tossing someone elses medels over the fence in
washington, How about Kerry sucking up to Jane Fonda? How about Kerry
admitting he burned villages and killed civilians in Vietnam? Did he
tell everyone how Kerry was wounded 3 times in a few month including a
scratch on his arm so he could leave vietnam well before his tour was
up? Forgot that huh? How about the Iraqi Women that get stoned to
death for showing thier faces in public? Did he mention the women
could not get an education in Saddams Iraq?


Joe




jlrogers±³© June 28th 04 01:51 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Now that''s funny!

Bobsprit wrote:
Went to see this last night again with two friends who are serious
republicans. I was interested to see how the audience reacted as well.
Quite a few people cried during the movie. My friends won't be voting
for Bush. Some elements of the movie are clearly and obviously low
blows, but there's simply too much to ignore, too many facts
presented through Bush contradicting himself days apart and so on.
Anyone who thinks oil played no part in the war needs to see the
film. Is the film a slanted view? You're damn right. Are there facts
in the film as well? You're damn right.
If you haven't seen it, then you don't have all of the info. You're
afraid to have your views challenged. Go see the movie, then get back
to me. It's easy to see why the republicans want a ban on this film's
advertising.
But here's the clincher. The movie is NOT anti republican. It's anti
BUSH, who is really not a republican at all. See the movie, THEN
you'll be qualified to comment.
Did I cry during the movie? Yes, I did. I don't know what kind of
person could watch this film and not be moved by the plight of Iraq
civilians and our own American troops being used like pawns.
What a disaster Bush has brought on the US and the world. He'll soon
be stopped, but too late for too many. Moore's freedom as an artist
will (thankfully) be a final blow to Bush and his people in the
political machine.

RB


--
jlrogers±³©
Never date a woman you can hear ticking. - Mark Patinkin

Eschew Obfuscation.



SAIL LOCO June 28th 04 03:21 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
You obviously haven't read the actual account of the situation,
nor listened to his fellow sailors. They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.

Excuse me, but I read the account written by one of Kerry's swift boat crew.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

SAIL LOCO June 28th 04 03:25 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
The economy isn't "recovering nicely" unless you flip burgers for a
living..

Prove that statement. Even the liberal press has reported that all sectors are
hiring and that every company CEO that they have interviewed has stated that
they are forcasting growth and will be hiring.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Jonathan Ganz June 28th 04 05:20 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
It's pretty obvious. Sure, the economy is recovering, but it's anemic in
many
areas of the country. It's also fragile according to many sources. Sure,
there
are job being created (finally), but they're not paying anywhere near what
they were paying, and we're still not anywhere near the employment numbers
prior to when Bu**** took office. Forecasting is nice, but it's just a
prediction
at this point...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
The economy isn't "recovering nicely" unless you flip burgers for a
living..

Prove that statement. Even the liberal press has reported that all

sectors are
hiring and that every company CEO that they have interviewed has stated

that
they are forcasting growth and will be hiring.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"




Jonathan Ganz June 28th 04 05:25 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Read it again. The VC was about to kill all of them with one
press of the finger. Kerry had no choice and shot him dead.
He ran the boat up on the beach, apparently because what
the VC was firing couldn't work if too close to the target.

Here's the official record in PDF format.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/Silver_Star.pdf

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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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You obviously haven't read the actual account of the situation,
nor listened to his fellow sailors. They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.

Excuse me, but I read the account written by one of Kerry's swift boat

crew.
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Bobsprit June 28th 04 05:50 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
It's pretty obvious. Sure, the economy is recovering, but it's anemic in
many
areas of the country.

After companies cumble and jobs are lost, a upswing in hiring is reported.
Typical attempt to aid moral. But the deficit is sooooo high, our economy is in
SERIOUS trouble. There are no real signs of growth anywhere and consolidation
is the current trend for survival.

RB

Bobspirt June 28th 04 06:44 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Why in the world would anyone vote for Kerry? BUSH, has done everything
Kerry has been campaining on, with a promise not to raise taxes.


Thom, you're a prime example of someone who doesn't want to hear anything
that
might shake up the world you believe in. I guess it's easier for you that
way.
But it's also a shame. Meanwhile, making silly insults in well beneath you.

RB


What's insulting about that post? He makes an interesting point.

Bobsprit June 28th 04 06:48 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
What's insulting about that post? He makes an interesting point.


Kerry is campainging on lying about WMDs??? Getting Americans killed? Building
the biggest deficit ever?
Oh, okay. Thom is right.

RB

Bobspirt June 28th 04 06:49 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
After companies cumble and jobs are lost, a upswing in hiring is reported.
Typical attempt to aid moral. But the deficit is sooooo high, our economy is
in
SERIOUS trouble. There are no real signs of growth anywhere and consolidation
is the current trend for survival.

RB


Wow! You will just say anything won't you. So, companies add jobs to keep
moral up? That is the craziest thing I have ever seen. "No signs of growth
anywhere"? RB, you ought to stay out of the economy discussion.

Bobspirt June 28th 04 06:50 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Ummmbecause he's not a lying arsehole like you and your mate Bushy;-)

Well, unfortunately, this one is not true either. We're damned if we do and
damned if we don't this year, I'm afraid.

Bobspirt June 28th 04 06:51 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
They don't give out Silver Stars
just because.


. . . . because the government was honest and fair back then?

Bobsprit June 28th 04 06:54 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Wow! You will just say anything won't you. So, companies add jobs to keep
moral up? That is the craziest thing I have ever seen.


Wow, you'll fail to comprehend everything just to troll!
USA consolidation of mega companies via mergers and buyouts has been SOP for 3
years, Dumbass. Verizon added 3K jobs after cutting back national operations
and dropping staff in 12 states!
Don't you read?

Nahhhhh!

RB

SAIL LOCO June 28th 04 07:19 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
Read it again. The VC was about to kill all of them with one
press of the finger. Kerry had no choice and shot him dead.

Nice try. That's the Kerry TV interview version. The crewmember who has come
out has stated the VC was on the ground with no weapon and half dead.
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"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

SAIL LOCO June 28th 04 07:21 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
After companies cumble and jobs are lost, a upswing in hiring is reported.
Typical attempt to aid moral. But the deficit is sooooo high, our economy is in
SERIOUS trouble...

ROFLOL.......... You loose the jobs argument so now you bring up the deficit.
The deficit will never go away.
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"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Bobsprit June 28th 04 07:41 PM

Fahrenheit 9/11
 
The deficit will never go away.


Clinton made the deficit go away. Don't you remember anything??? Didn't you get
300 bucks?

RB


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