Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.

I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a sloshing
pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
standing there. I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
have anything to tie it off or compress it. His gf was not in any shape
to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help him
compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
took only about half that time. I never went back after the paramedics
went for him, but I heard he was ok.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!

http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm


Bobsprit wrote in message
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DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.

This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted by
propellers.

If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how dangerous a
spinning prop can be!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg

RB

Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?

I stepped on a little nurse shark on St Pete Beach about 10 years ago...I
ran very fast....
My brother was scuba diving while he was stationed in Hawaii and a shark
wouldn't leave him alone so he planted his fist in its' nose and it left....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Yup... two guys spearfishing off Shark Point in Brewer's Bay... on the point
before you enter Cane Garden Bay. They cleaned their catch and tied the fish
to a rope... then swam to their boat from shoretowing the stringer of fish..
The Lemon Shark bit at the fish on the stringer and ended up removing a
large chunk of calf muscle. Lucky for the victim there was a conference of
vascular surgeons on the island at the time.

I used my towel to stem some of the bleeding. We loaded him into a Suzuki
and drove him to the hospital. If that shark had been interested in anything
but the fish... neither of those two would be alive now. Shark attacks are
largely based on the ignorance of the humans in the water. We are not their
natural food source.

Nurse Sharks won't bite you unless you man handle them. I had a ride on an 8
foot Nurse Shark in the Samoas... I hung on to the dorsal... for about 30
seconds.. then the shark turned on the power and left me spinning at 45 feet
under water. I was skin diving at the time... no tanks. What a Blast!

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
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| Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
|
| I stepped on a little nurse shark on St Pete Beach about 10 years ago...I
| ran very fast....
| My brother was scuba diving while he was stationed in Hawaii and a shark
| wouldn't leave him alone so he planted his fist in its' nose and it
left....
|
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| s/v Chanteuse
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| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|

"katysails" wrote:

I stepped on a little nurse shark on St Pete Beach about 10 years ago...I
ran very fast....

I used to hang out in St. Petersburg 10 years ago. We could have crossed
paths and never knew it.

Last time I was there were baby Stingrays by the hundreds in very shallow
water. I didn't want to get in the water, but the locals told me to
"shuffle my feet" in the water and they would leave. Seemed a bit strange
to me...

LP

I didn't want to get in the water, but the locals told me to
"shuffle my feet" in the water and they would leave. Seemed a bit strange
to me...

We had to do that this April when we went to Fort Myers....they lay on the
sand in shallow water sunning themselves and they blend in...they're really
rather benign but if you get whipped by the tail it's quite painful, even
from a little one....
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.

No, But I had my leg cut to the bone dealing with a manta ray. And I
had a deck hand have his hand sucked into as turbo charger.


I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a sloshing
pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
standing there.

Never let anyone in shock just stand there. Elevate the wound, calm
him, stop the bleeding and get help.


I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
have anything to tie it off or compress it.

Should of snached off her top or bra, wimp.

His gf was not in any shape
to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help him
compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
took only about half that time.

when I had my leg cut to the bone I did not even notice it, Luckly a
friend was swimming with me and pointed out the big cloud of blood. Im
sure if I spent any time in the water Hector would of had my ass.

I never went back after the paramedics
went for him, but I heard he was ok.

Yeah you gotta lose many pints before you die. I lost approx 5 pints
in my ordeal. Thats what they gave me anyway. It was at the island of
Deigo Garcia close to the fishing barge. We were snorkeliong the reefs
and hitched a ride on a Manta ray that had a wing span of approx 16
feet. My buddy grabed him at the wrong place and he freaked, when he
did his tail cut me like a sword on the back of my leg and you could
see the bone. Damn thing was as sharp as a scaple and I did not even
feel it.

It still bothers me were the cut was the deepest, the circulation has
never been the same, but thats the price I paid to mess around with
the wildest creatures the sea has to offer. If you want to experience
the sea and its creature you better be willing to pay the price.

Joe



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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!

http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm


Bobsprit wrote in message
...

DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.

This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted by
propellers.

If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how dangerous a
spinning prop can be!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg

RB

I guess mantas can be dangerous...

Why do you think she had a top or bottom? This was Black's Beach
in the early 70s.

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.

No, But I had my leg cut to the bone dealing with a manta ray. And I
had a deck hand have his hand sucked into as turbo charger.


I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a sloshing
pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
standing there.

Never let anyone in shock just stand there. Elevate the wound, calm
him, stop the bleeding and get help.


I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
have anything to tie it off or compress it.

Should of snached off her top or bra, wimp.

His gf was not in any shape
to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help him
compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
took only about half that time.

when I had my leg cut to the bone I did not even notice it, Luckly a
friend was swimming with me and pointed out the big cloud of blood. Im
sure if I spent any time in the water Hector would of had my ass.

I never went back after the paramedics
went for him, but I heard he was ok.

Yeah you gotta lose many pints before you die. I lost approx 5 pints
in my ordeal. Thats what they gave me anyway. It was at the island of
Deigo Garcia close to the fishing barge. We were snorkeliong the reefs
and hitched a ride on a Manta ray that had a wing span of approx 16
feet. My buddy grabed him at the wrong place and he freaked, when he
did his tail cut me like a sword on the back of my leg and you could
see the bone. Damn thing was as sharp as a scaple and I did not even
feel it.

It still bothers me were the cut was the deepest, the circulation has
never been the same, but thats the price I paid to mess around with
the wildest creatures the sea has to offer. If you want to experience
the sea and its creature you better be willing to pay the price.

Joe



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www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!

http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm


Bobsprit wrote in message
...

DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.

This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted by
propellers.

If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how
dangerous a
spinning prop can be!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg

RB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
I guess mantas can be dangerous...




Why do you think she had a top or bottom? This was Black's Beach
in the early 70s.

Oh Ok that explaines it. Been there in the early 80's while stationed
in San Deigo. Had a lovely little lady that loved to show off at the
time. Also lost my Navy gold ring on the cliffs carrying a keg down to
the beach.

Joe


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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.

No, But I had my leg cut to the bone dealing with a manta ray. And I
had a deck hand have his hand sucked into as turbo charger.


I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a sloshing
pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
standing there.

Never let anyone in shock just stand there. Elevate the wound, calm
him, stop the bleeding and get help.


I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
have anything to tie it off or compress it.

Should of snached off her top or bra, wimp.

His gf was not in any shape
to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help him
compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
took only about half that time.

when I had my leg cut to the bone I did not even notice it, Luckly a
friend was swimming with me and pointed out the big cloud of blood. Im
sure if I spent any time in the water Hector would of had my ass.

I never went back after the paramedics
went for him, but I heard he was ok.

Yeah you gotta lose many pints before you die. I lost approx 5 pints
in my ordeal. Thats what they gave me anyway. It was at the island of
Deigo Garcia close to the fishing barge. We were snorkeliong the reefs
and hitched a ride on a Manta ray that had a wing span of approx 16
feet. My buddy grabed him at the wrong place and he freaked, when he
did his tail cut me like a sword on the back of my leg and you could
see the bone. Damn thing was as sharp as a scaple and I did not even
feel it.

It still bothers me were the cut was the deepest, the circulation has
never been the same, but thats the price I paid to mess around with
the wildest creatures the sea has to offer. If you want to experience
the sea and its creature you better be willing to pay the price.

Joe



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www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!

http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm


Bobsprit wrote in message
...

DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.

This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted by
propellers.

If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how
dangerous a
spinning prop can be!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg

RB

I was there from 73 to 80... a nice seven years. A couple of women
I met, I met for the first time when they were naked... didn't recognize
them when they put there clothes on... still friends with a couple of them.

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"Joe" wrote in message
m...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I guess mantas can be dangerous...




Why do you think she had a top or bottom? This was Black's Beach
in the early 70s.

Oh Ok that explaines it. Been there in the early 80's while stationed
in San Deigo. Had a lovely little lady that loved to show off at the
time. Also lost my Navy gold ring on the cliffs carrying a keg down to
the beach.

Joe


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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.

No, But I had my leg cut to the bone dealing with a manta ray. And I
had a deck hand have his hand sucked into as turbo charger.


I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a
sloshing
pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
standing there.

Never let anyone in shock just stand there. Elevate the wound, calm
him, stop the bleeding and get help.


I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
have anything to tie it off or compress it.

Should of snached off her top or bra, wimp.

His gf was not in any shape
to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help
him
compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
took only about half that time.

when I had my leg cut to the bone I did not even notice it, Luckly a
friend was swimming with me and pointed out the big cloud of blood. Im
sure if I spent any time in the water Hector would of had my ass.

I never went back after the paramedics
went for him, but I heard he was ok.

Yeah you gotta lose many pints before you die. I lost approx 5 pints
in my ordeal. Thats what they gave me anyway. It was at the island of
Deigo Garcia close to the fishing barge. We were snorkeliong the reefs
and hitched a ride on a Manta ray that had a wing span of approx 16
feet. My buddy grabed him at the wrong place and he freaked, when he
did his tail cut me like a sword on the back of my leg and you could
see the bone. Damn thing was as sharp as a scaple and I did not even
feel it.

It still bothers me were the cut was the deepest, the circulation has
never been the same, but thats the price I paid to mess around with
the wildest creatures the sea has to offer. If you want to experience
the sea and its creature you better be willing to pay the price.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!

http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm


Bobsprit wrote in message
...

DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.

This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted
by
propellers.

If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how
dangerous a
spinning prop can be!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg

RB

The "tail" of a Manta??? Maybe the reef Joe... but the "tail"..???

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
| Has anyone here actually seen a shark attack or the victim of one?
| Raise your hands... yes, I've seen the aftermath up close.
|
| No, But I had my leg cut to the bone dealing with a manta ray. And I
| had a deck hand have his hand sucked into as turbo charger.
|
|
| I was walking down the beach in north county San Diego. Came
| across a guy standing in the shallow surf in a deserted section of
| the beach, just him and his girl friend. He was standing in a sloshing
| pool of blood, she was hysterical. He was clearly in shock... just
| standing there.
|
| Never let anyone in shock just stand there. Elevate the wound, calm
| him, stop the bleeding and get help.
|
|
| I got him on dry land, then took a look at his foot/
| ankle area. A big piece was missing/hanging on the lower back calf.
| I figured he didn't have much time because of loss of blood, didn't
| have anything to tie it off or compress it.
|
| Should of snached off her top or bra, wimp.
|
| His gf was not in any shape
| to go and get help. So, after a lot of coaxing, I got her to help him
| compress the wound with their hands. Then, I went for help.
| Fortunately, I was much younger and the normal 40 minute trip
| took only about half that time.
|
| when I had my leg cut to the bone I did not even notice it, Luckly a
| friend was swimming with me and pointed out the big cloud of blood. Im
| sure if I spent any time in the water Hector would of had my ass.
|
| I never went back after the paramedics
| went for him, but I heard he was ok.
|
| Yeah you gotta lose many pints before you die. I lost approx 5 pints
| in my ordeal. Thats what they gave me anyway. It was at the island of
| Deigo Garcia close to the fishing barge. We were snorkeliong the reefs
| and hitched a ride on a Manta ray that had a wing span of approx 16
| feet. My buddy grabed him at the wrong place and he freaked, when he
| did his tail cut me like a sword on the back of my leg and you could
| see the bone. Damn thing was as sharp as a scaple and I did not even
| feel it.
|
| It still bothers me were the cut was the deepest, the circulation has
| never been the same, but thats the price I paid to mess around with
| the wildest creatures the sea has to offer. If you want to experience
| the sea and its creature you better be willing to pay the price.
|
| Joe
|
|
|
| --
| "j" ganz @@
| www.sailnow.com
|
| "Bart Senior" wrote in message
| t...
| I have some better ones. Shark Bite Pictures!
|
| http://www.sharkattacks.com/bites.htm
|
|
| Bobsprit wrote in message
| ...
|
| DO NOT CLICK this link if you are bothered by gore.
|
| This is the result of a powerboat accident, injuries inflicted by
| propellers.
|
| If nothing else, this ought to instill deep respect for how
dangerous a
| spinning prop can be!!!
|
| http://www.consumptionjunction.com/d...s/cj_36012.jpg
|
| RB
|
|