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To shackle or Quick Link?
ozone wrote
That said, I've been using quicklinks on jib sheets for decades and never had a failure. finger tight, or wrenched? Scotty |
To shackle or Quick Link?
Donal wrote: "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Jeff Morris wrote: One must be explicit for the benefit of the thousands of lurkers who rely on our collective wisdom! Good advice, Jeff! It's a real pity that you didn't consider the lurkers during our last discussion about sailing in restricted visibility!!! Regards Donal -- Do we still have lots of lurkers? HEY LURKERS, STAND AND BE RECOGNISED!!! Ready...aim...... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Faint echoes, sometimes inaudible, of the newsgroup's glorious past are downloadable at http://music.download.com/internetopera |
To shackle or Quick Link?
"Donal" wrote in message
... "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Jeff Morris wrote: One must be explicit for the benefit of the thousands of lurkers who rely on our collective wisdom! Good advice, Jeff! It's a real pity that you didn't consider the lurkers during our last discussion about sailing in restricted visibility!!! Was that the time you displayed your tendency to lie repeatedly, not to mention your complete lack of understanding of maritime law? It must have been especially embarrassing for you when I pointed out a case in your own home waters where going 20 knots in thick fog was not considered too fast. Didn't you ever wonder why in a thread that went on for hundreds of posts, not a single person actually agreed with your side? And you never cited a case or a reference that agreed with you? I'm surprised you wanted to bring that one up again. |
To shackle or Quick Link?
Who told you this crap Mark, bob**** the shackle expert?
I'm not familiar with BBB chain, but proof coil and HT will take a shackle pin 2 sizes (2/16'') BIGGER. In fact, everything I've read says to use a shackle the next size up from the chain. -- Scotty S/V Lisa Marie Balt. MD USA "Marc" wrote in message ... According to the BBB chain dimensions in the following link http://www.pyacht.net/online-store/s..._bbb_chain.htm neither a 3/8" shackle or a 3/8" quick link will pass through 3/8' bbb chain. You must go 1 size smaller. hence the suggestion to install oversized end links from an industrial supplier of load rated chain. This factoid is true for all shapes and sizes of chain, proof , ht, bbb, and is one of the dirty little secrets of the anchor rode packages offered by marine retailers. After the anchor breakout force rating, the shackle is your weakest link On 17 Jun 2004 14:48:20 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote: he was asking about quick links, marc. "Marc" wrote in message .. . More to the point. the shackle you can fit to the chain is weaker than the chain. Buy your rated chain from an industrial sling mfg. and have them put an oversize link at each end. (small extra charge). Now you will be able to fit the proper sized and rated shackle. On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:44:54 -0400, Martin Baxter wrote: Another anchor question: Why don't we use quick links rather than shackles to attach the rode to the anchor? Seems to me that the same size quick link is about 20% stronger than it's shackle equivalent, and if you tighten the closure nut with a wrench there's no way for it to work open. Even if you only tighten by hand and by some miracle (fish with fingers, crafty crabs?) it manages to work open, you still won't lose connection so long as there is some tension on the rode. Cheers Marty |
To shackle or Quick Link?
Have you ever had one back off, even a tiny bit?
Scotty OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 22:17:43 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: ozone wrote That said, I've been using quicklinks on jib sheets for decades and never had a failure. finger tight, or wrenched? Scotty Inshore finger tight, Offshore, depends on the conditions. We have a loop whipped or spliced on the end of the jibsheet and just pass one quicklink thru both loops. Saves the bulk of the usual bights or knots and they don't foul on things when tacking or gybing. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
To shackle or Quick Link?
OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 22:48:13 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: Who told you this crap Mark, bob**** the shackle expert? I'm not familiar with BBB chain, but proof coil and HT will take a shackle pin 2 sizes (2/16'') BIGGER. In fact, everything I've read says to use a shackle the next size up from the chain. 2/16" that anything like 1/8" ? Exactly the same. very good ozone. You didn't cheat and ask Jax, did you? The 2/16'' was used to exemplify moving up 2 sizes. SV |
To shackle or Quick Link?
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To shackle or Quick Link?
Then you don't know how to properly use a micrometer.
OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 23:20:59 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 22:48:13 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: Who told you this crap Mark, bob**** the shackle expert? I'm not familiar with BBB chain, but proof coil and HT will take a shackle pin 2 sizes (2/16'') BIGGER. In fact, everything I've read says to use a shackle the next size up from the chain. 2/16" that anything like 1/8" ? Exactly the same. very good ozone. You didn't cheat and ask Jax, did you? I did, but he told me that 1 + 1 = 3 and that 1/16 should really be 1/17 because when you measure 1/16 the jaws of the micrometer are never square and have a very small gap so the actually read a little larger than actual. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
To shackle or Quick Link?
I use a caliper.
SV "Philip Carroll" wrote in message ... Then you don't know how to properly use a micrometer. OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 23:20:59 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message ... On 17 Jun 2004 22:48:13 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: Who told you this crap Mark, bob**** the shackle expert? I'm not familiar with BBB chain, but proof coil and HT will take a shackle pin 2 sizes (2/16'') BIGGER. In fact, everything I've read says to use a shackle the next size up from the chain. 2/16" that anything like 1/8" ? Exactly the same. very good ozone. You didn't cheat and ask Jax, did you? I did, but he told me that 1 + 1 = 3 and that 1/16 should really be 1/17 because when you measure 1/16 the jaws of the micrometer are never square and have a very small gap so the actually read a little larger than actual. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
To shackle or Quick Link?
OzOne wrote in message ... On 18 Jun 2004 02:23:15 GMT, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly: I use a caliper. SV Polio? vernier. |
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