Jeff,

I've said this before but I guess at my age I'm allowed to repeat a
story; " When I was still racing with my Female crew, I use to supply
Bakery Cookie on the downwind leg. I would really strain to hold my gas
until the final tack was completed, then I'd go below to get the bag of
cookies. While in the Cabin I would let go with a real, ripper. I mean
a Fart that only age can manufacture. Then I would return to the cockpit
with the bag of cookies and thermos's of coffee and tea and take over
the helm for the downwind leg.

You have to have a female crew to get the full effect of as well
"Passed Gas" The aroma drifting up from the cabin created enough visual
response over enough time to create laughter in this old man.

I was the main sail trimmer on the upwind legs. The Girls had double
duty. They had to figure the tack to carry the mark and to keep "Ole
Dad" from dropping into the cabin. I was put on the helm to turn the
windward mark.

Even without the Aid of the cabin and the wind going downwind, I could
cut loose and the smell would linger in the cockpit long enough to get
the crew to have to free one hand from cookie eating to fan their faces.
(They use to make a special tell-tale out of duct tape and yarn and
stick it on the seat of my pants)

Ah, the joys of Cruising Class racing with a all girl crew; they sure
did teach me to not take myself to serious!

Never had a fire and I'll drink to that!!

Ole Thom

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote ...
Yes, I know. It's just that scenarios based on rank stupidity
irritate me.

What else would you expect from a wanabe hollywood failure?

unfair, Scotty. I'd be really really nice to Bobsprit for a long
long time if he'd just assign his royalties from "through dead
eyes" to me.

Flying Tadpole

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote ...
Yes, I know. It's just that scenarios based on rank stupidity
irritate me.

What else would you expect from a wanabe hollywood failure?

unfair, Scotty.

Since when are we supposed to be fair?


I'd be really really nice to Bobsprit for a long
long time if he'd just assign his royalties from "through dead
eyes" to me.


You'd even hold his hand?

What was *I* wrong about?

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
So Nutsy,

I guess you came up with enough research to back your point. I'm tipping
my hat to you, and honoring your answer.

Your point and serve!!

However, I don't think you can seal the Cabin due to vents, bilge limber
holes, shower drains, etc. I've sealed my engine area by using "Pampers"
but the rest of the bilge is connected. Will it support combustion? I
don't know? I do vent the Pilothouse when I use the "Heat Pal" alcohol
heater to maintain oxygen level.

I have to defer to your point of view. So, I give you; Check and Mate.

Ole Thom

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote ...
Yes, I know. It's just that scenarios based on rank stupidity
irritate me.

What else would you expect from a wanabe hollywood failure?

unfair, Scotty.

Since when are we supposed to be fair?

I'd be really really nice to Bobsprit for a long
long time if he'd just assign his royalties from "through dead
eyes" to me.

You'd even hold his hand?

W-e-e-e-l-l-l-l....I'd want to know first just how big the
royalties were....

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Capt Neal putzes once more at
http://music.download.com/internetopera

"Donal" wrote

"Jeff Morris" wrote
Donal complains about your geography, but he considers the Portsmouth
Harbour entrance, which is about 8 miles up the Solent, to be "offshore."

You are hallucinating, Jeff.

What on Earth makes you say that I think that Portsmouth Harbour entrance is
"offshore"?

I really think that you should consider withdrawing that silly remark.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What are you going to do, turn me in to the "out of
context cops"???

OK, if you insist, let's review:

Peter said:

Keep in mind that if Donal tried to go 30 miles offshore,
he'd hit France.

And you responded:

Idiot!!!
The last person who made that dumb mistake was Jax!!!!!
Stick to English literature. You know nothing about geography.
Cherebourg is my nearest French port, and it is 74 nautical
miles from Portsmouth Harbour entrance.

It sure seems to me that you were trying to claim that the measuring of
"offshore" begins at your harbor entrance. Otherwise, why would you mention
that point as opposed to any other point along the way? If not, you might have
said Cherbourg is 56 miles off from St. Catherine's, your actual point of
departure from the British coast. Actually, most measures of "offshore" start a
ways out, perhaps 12 miles. But that starts looking pretty close to Peter's
claim - not bad for someone 12,000 miles away.

But you wanted to play the pompous ass, so you had to use the larger measure.
And being greedy, you picked the furthest distance and got burned. Sorry
Donal - you got just what you deserve. I'll bet your petard is pretty sore
right now!

-jeff
"As ye butter your bread, so shall ye lie in it."

Guess what? It's 240 km across Bass Strait. Nobody considers that's
offshore sailing. People kayak across.

PDW

In article , Jeff Morris
wrote:

"Donal" wrote

"Jeff Morris" wrote
Donal complains about your geography, but he considers the Portsmouth
Harbour entrance, which is about 8 miles up the Solent, to be "offshore."

You are hallucinating, Jeff.

What on Earth makes you say that I think that Portsmouth Harbour entrance is
"offshore"?

I really think that you should consider withdrawing that silly remark.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What are you going to do, turn me in to the "out of
context cops"???

OK, if you insist, let's review:

Peter said:

Keep in mind that if Donal tried to go 30 miles offshore,
he'd hit France.

And you responded:

Idiot!!!
The last person who made that dumb mistake was Jax!!!!!
Stick to English literature. You know nothing about geography.
Cherebourg is my nearest French port, and it is 74 nautical
miles from Portsmouth Harbour entrance.

It sure seems to me that you were trying to claim that the measuring of
"offshore" begins at your harbor entrance. Otherwise, why would you mention
that point as opposed to any other point along the way? If not, you might
have
said Cherbourg is 56 miles off from St. Catherine's, your actual point of
departure from the British coast. Actually, most measures of "offshore"
start a
ways out, perhaps 12 miles. But that starts looking pretty close to Peter's
claim - not bad for someone 12,000 miles away.

But you wanted to play the pompous ass, so you had to use the larger measure.
And being greedy, you picked the furthest distance and got burned. Sorry
Donal - you got just what you deserve. I'll bet your petard is pretty sore
right now!

-jeff
"As ye butter your bread, so shall ye lie in it."

Peter Wiley wrote:

Guess what? It's 240 km across Bass Strait. Nobody considers that's
offshore sailing. People kayak across.


No, not people, however Austrailians do! ;-)

Cheers
Marty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
"Donal" wrote

"Jeff Morris" wrote
Donal complains about your geography, but he considers the Portsmouth
Harbour entrance, which is about 8 miles up the Solent, to be
"offshore."

You are hallucinating, Jeff.

What on Earth makes you say that I think that Portsmouth Harbour
entrance is
"offshore"?

I really think that you should consider withdrawing that silly remark.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What are you going to do, turn me in to the
"out of
context cops"???

OK, if you insist, let's review:

Peter said:

Keep in mind that if Donal tried to go 30 miles offshore,
he'd hit France.

And you responded:

Idiot!!!
The last person who made that dumb mistake was Jax!!!!!
Stick to English literature. You know nothing about geography.
Cherebourg is my nearest French port, and it is 74 nautical
miles from Portsmouth Harbour entrance.

It sure seems to me that you were trying to claim that the measuring of
"offshore" begins at your harbor entrance. Otherwise, why would you
mention
that point as opposed to any other point along the way? If not, you
might have
said Cherbourg is 56 miles off from St. Catherine's, your actual point of
departure from the British coast.

Nonsense! I don't go anywhere near St Cat's when I go to Cherbourg.

Actually, most measures of "offshore" start a
ways out, perhaps 12 miles. But that starts looking pretty close to
Peter's
claim - not bad for someone 12,000 miles away.

Really, Jeff! Is there no limit to the ignorance that you are willing to
display in a public forum?
There are *two* major flaws in your (very weak) argument.

1) If you sailed 30 miles offshore - how far from the shore would you be?

I am sure that you are not stupid enough to persist in your lame assertion
that I am actually 18 miles "Offshore" when I have sailed 30 miles out from
the shore.



2) I don't sail anywhere near St. Catherine's point when I go to Cherbourg!
If you want to move my "shore" out to sea, then you could use Bembridge
Ledge. That is still 64 miles from Cherbourg.





But you wanted to play the pompous ass, so you had to use the larger
measure.

Nope! I made a factual statement.


BTW, I'm much better at pomposity than you are!

And being greedy, you picked the furthest distance and got burned. Sorry
Donal - you got just what you deserve. I'll bet your petard is pretty
sore
right now!

Jeff, you should take another look at the chart.

My route to Cherbourg involves a trip to Bembridge Ledge, followed by a
beeline to Cherbourg.

Peter said that I would hit France if I Went 30 miles offshore.

You are a pair of idiots.


Regards


Donal
--






-jeff
"As ye butter your bread, so shall ye lie in it."

If it's a standing wave, what's the problem.. We have those
near the Golden Gate bridge somewhat frequently. Makes
for an uncomfortable ride, but they don't break much. Also,
if you're heading into them, there's not much danger of
flooding the boat unless you break through the top and
you have a forward hatch open.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
...
On 22 Jun 2004 02:01:21 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Many boats, and most larger boats, have hatches
that will stay dry even if the bow is catching occasional spray.

Scotty Potty thinks a big wave will crash down on his bow and flood the
boat...in less than 20 knots!

RB

Actually, this CAN happen. There are many, many reports of folks passing
through
Plum Gut (between Orient Point and Plum Island on the North Fork of
Eastern L.I.
on an otherwise clear, calm day and suddenly encountering an eight foot
standing
wave directly in front of them. I just went through it a couple of days
ago, and
was sure to close everything up tight. Other than some interesting
currents and
confused seas, it was pretty much a cake walk... This time.

BB