"Donal" wrote

What problem???


The only problem that I can see is that some people feel the need to use
sand for cigarette butts!
--- They need help!

I thoroughly concur.

SV

No. paper will get wet. Plastic bin would have to be returned to boat
after throwing in dumpster, also needs to be cleaned now & then.

Scotty

OzOne wrote in message news
On 9 Jun 2004 22:16:00 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

But I use the old plastic grocery store bags for trash bags in my boat.

Scotty

Wel start using paper or a plastic bin.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

didn't have to figure it out, I knew it.

SV


OzOne wrote in message ...
On 9 Jun 2004 22:34:19 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

No. paper will get wet. Plastic bin would have to be returned to boat
after throwing in dumpster, also needs to be cleaned now & then.

Scotty

Hey Scootz, how long did it take you to figure that out?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

sometimes.


OzOne wrote in message ...

Hey, you're a smart guy :-)

On 9 Jun 2004 22:42:54 GMT, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

didn't have to figure it out, I knew it.

SV

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:38:07 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Enjoy your time on earth because it doesn't rain in hell.

You calling Australia hell buddy?

A country that has people who sift sand for decomposing cigarrette butts
sounds like hell to me!

Only to smokers who care so little about other people that they dump
their butts instead of taking them home.

Oh, for God's sake Peter, you really need to get a life!



True story. Friend of mine was on Maria Island (a historic site) with a
group of friends, staying in one of the refurbished buildings with a
full length verandah. One of her friends was bitching about people
leaving rubbish about in such an environment. Asked my friend why she
has such a dubious look on her face, at which time Kate said that she
really couldn't see the difference between people tossing lolly
wrappers, orange peels etc and other people tossing cigarette butts.


Well, well, I'm truly shocked! Orange peels??? Where will it all end? I
can just imagine that you lie awake at night, in a panic about the imminent
threat of anhiliation that carelessly discarded banana skins will surely
bring to all of us!




The original complainant was a smoker and had been tossing her butts
over the verandah rail. She went red in the face and started picking up
her butts, as did a couple other smokers in earshot who'd been doing
the same thing.

If you can't figure out the message from this, Donal, perhaps it's time
to deflate your defensive self-righteousness.

Nonsense.

It's about time that you got off of your high horse and considered the
*true* impact of cigarette butts on the environment!

I believe that you often sail on a small ship. Last year, I was in the
middle of the English Channel on the second day of a high pressure. I was
shocked to see that the horizon was *yellow*. This was the result of *one*
day's pollution from ships.

Tell me, does *your* ship burn clean fuel?



Once sufficient people
decide you don't have the right to litter public places, you don't get
to smoke there if that's what it takes.

Does your ship produce pollution?



You can carry a full pack of butts in with you. WTF is so difficult
about carrying the used butts out?

Can your ship take it's pollution home?


Regards


Donal
--

Hit a nerve, did I? Heh heh. Smokers are such easy targets........

Hey Donal. If it's OK for you to dump butts on the beach because
they're biodegradable (in geological time...) I assume you have no
probs with people taking a dump on the beaches if they feel like it? If
not, why not?

PDW

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Donal
wrote:

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:38:07 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Enjoy your time on earth because it doesn't rain in hell.

You calling Australia hell buddy?

A country that has people who sift sand for decomposing cigarrette butts
sounds like hell to me!

Only to smokers who care so little about other people that they dump
their butts instead of taking them home.

Oh, for God's sake Peter, you really need to get a life!



True story. Friend of mine was on Maria Island (a historic site) with a
group of friends, staying in one of the refurbished buildings with a
full length verandah. One of her friends was bitching about people
leaving rubbish about in such an environment. Asked my friend why she
has such a dubious look on her face, at which time Kate said that she
really couldn't see the difference between people tossing lolly
wrappers, orange peels etc and other people tossing cigarette butts.


Well, well, I'm truly shocked! Orange peels??? Where will it all end? I
can just imagine that you lie awake at night, in a panic about the imminent
threat of anhiliation that carelessly discarded banana skins will surely
bring to all of us!




The original complainant was a smoker and had been tossing her butts
over the verandah rail. She went red in the face and started picking up
her butts, as did a couple other smokers in earshot who'd been doing
the same thing.

If you can't figure out the message from this, Donal, perhaps it's time
to deflate your defensive self-righteousness.

Nonsense.

It's about time that you got off of your high horse and considered the
*true* impact of cigarette butts on the environment!

I believe that you often sail on a small ship. Last year, I was in the
middle of the English Channel on the second day of a high pressure. I was
shocked to see that the horizon was *yellow*. This was the result of *one*
day's pollution from ships.

Tell me, does *your* ship burn clean fuel?



Once sufficient people
decide you don't have the right to litter public places, you don't get
to smoke there if that's what it takes.

Does your ship produce pollution?



You can carry a full pack of butts in with you. WTF is so difficult
about carrying the used butts out?

Can your ship take it's pollution home?


Regards


Donal
--

Peter Wiley wrote:

Hit a nerve, did I? Heh heh. Smokers are such easy targets........

Hey Donal. If it's OK for you to dump butts on the beach because
they're biodegradable (in geological time...) I assume you have no
probs with people taking a dump on the beaches if they feel like it? If
not, why not?

Peter, you came in late. The definitive response was Capt
Neal's, which you will find (text) on
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/asapo.htm#catfish or set to music
at http://music.download.com/internetopera . Look for "catfish
Row" in both cases.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Faint echoes, sometimes inaudible, of the newsgroup's glorious
past are downloadable at http://music.download.com/internetopera

In article , Flying Tadpole
wrote:

Peter Wiley wrote:

Hit a nerve, did I? Heh heh. Smokers are such easy targets........

Hey Donal. If it's OK for you to dump butts on the beach because
they're biodegradable (in geological time...) I assume you have no
probs with people taking a dump on the beaches if they feel like it? If
not, why not?

Peter, you came in late. The definitive response was Capt
Neal's, which you will find (text) on
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/asapo.htm#catfish or set to music
at http://music.download.com/internetopera . Look for "catfish
Row" in both cases.

Very good, I did miss that.

Mind you I still can't see why Donal finds it so difficult to take used
butts away with him when he had no problem carrying the cigarettes to
wherever in the first place. One possible reason is that the fresh
butts, with their concentrations of tar, are so stinking and disgusting
that he doesn't want to smell them and prefers to ignore the fag ends
of his addiction.

A real smoker would just smoke roll-yer-owns sans filters, take the tar
& nicotine hit straight and strip the butts (which do break down fast).
Filtered smokes are for people who want to pretend that the crap isn't
getting through to their lungs while smoking more to get the hit they
need.

Perhaps smokers need a pet of some description to serve the same
purpose as Neal's catfish. An undiscriminating dog may serve.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Hit a nerve, did I? Heh heh. Smokers are such easy targets........

Don't forget that you may also look down on queers, Aboriginies, Jews and
fatties!


Hey Donal. If it's OK for you to dump butts on the beach because
they're biodegradable (in geological time...) I assume you have no
probs with people taking a dump on the beaches if they feel like it? If
not, why not?

Are you as stupid as you pretend to be?

Would you prefer to sit on a one day old turd, or a one day old butt?


I defy you to state that you would prefer the turd!!


I find it rather interesting that you were unable to answer any of my
questions. No doubt, your views are so superior to mine, that you feel that
you can ignore my opinions.

Meanwhile, I'm sure that you will continue to take "blood money" by working
aboard a polluting vessel.

Your salary is directly linked to a major cause of global warming - and yet
you look down your nose at smokers. Peter, you are a hypocrite. You earn
a living from the destruction of our planet, and yet you think that you are
better than anyone who smokes a ciggarette.

Your previous posts would suggest that you consider yourself to be "above
average intelligence". Your inability to distinguish between "real" and
"perceived" threats to the environment would suggest that you should
re-evaluate your opinon of yourself.


While you ponder this, please bear in mind that you were stupid enough to
compare a turd on the beach with a ciggarette butt.

I look forward to your "holier than thou" response.

Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Hit a nerve, did I? Heh heh. Smokers are such easy targets........

Don't forget that you may also look down on queers, Aboriginies, Jews and
fatties!

only if they smoke.



Would you prefer to sit on a one day old turd, or a one day old butt?

one day old butts are so cute.



I would prefer the turd!!

smoke it?