dougies, think that one through again. It is as I wrote. It is not usually a
problem on a balky diesel because the diesel starter motor takes so much juice
the battery is dead before the waterlift fills us. A balky Atomic 4 can --
and some owners do -- fill the waterlift system. This is because the Atomic 4
has a vastly oversized water pump (not sure why) and with its compression
ration and auto starter motor it will crank over a long time before killing a
group 27 battery.

think it through again, dougies. cranking over a balky engine without starting
it WILL fill the waterlift if yo have enough battery capacity.

naive, the only time the "last two words" have any import is when you
(hereafter referred to as yo-yo) crank a non-starting engine over for an
extended period of time (during which yo-yo has left the cooling water
intake
open) until the entire exhaust system downstream of the waterlift muffler
has
been filled with water

Umm... no.

If you crank a non-starting engine for an extended period of time, the
"entire exhaust system downstream of the waterlift muffler has *NOT*
been filled with water" because the engine valves and cylincers have
been pumping air the whole time.

DSK

On 04 Jun 2004 11:59:39 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

This is because the Atomic 4
. . . with its compression
ration

Why did they ration the compression in the Atomic 4? Is compression
becoming a rare natural resource and needs to be doled out like
gasoline and rubber during the '40's?

a rare natural resource and needs to be doled out like
gasoline and rubber during the '40's?

actually, gasoline was rationed in WWII to conserve rubber.

On 05 Jun 2004 01:31:38 GMT, something compelled
(JAXAshby), to say:

a rare natural resource and needs to be doled out like
gasoline and rubber during the '40's?

actually, gasoline was rationed in WWII to conserve rubber.

Apparently your grasp of history is every bit as authoritative as
your grasp of aerodynamics.

well, I just accepted the statements by the people who made the decision.

(JAXAshby), to say:

a rare natural resource and needs to be doled out like
gasoline and rubber during the '40's?

actually, gasoline was rationed in WWII to conserve rubber.

Apparently your grasp of history is every bit as authoritative as
your grasp of aerodynamics.

Gasoline was ration to conserve rubber

Very true Jax, you got it right!! Now tell us why it was lifted?

While you're at it, tell us old sailors how to the trim our sail to
maximize driving force according to "Newton's Laws of Motion"

Can we still use tel-tail as we did with Bernoulli's Theorem?

Tell us all, now that you admitted to increasing the curved surface (
making chord larger) to increasing lift at slower, speeds why this is
so? What happens?
Most of us; "Older Sailor" accept Newton's Law. We Hope you can
enlighten us to the whys

Ole Thom :^)

old fart, "chord" as the term is used in aeronautics, means a straight line.

increasing the curved surface (
making chord larger

No Jax;

There are many, many straight line in aviation that are called just
that, and you know it.

You also know that "Chord" is used as a measurement in Airfoil
dimensions. Also used in Sail Trim.

However, that does't answer the question about Sail Trim for Newton's
Law, does it? That is the question that has been posed to you. How do us
"OLD SAILORS" know how to get the most out of sail trim adjusting for
Newton's Law. What do we look for as we adjust;
Halyard tension

Outhaul

Cunningham

Sheet tension

Vang tension

Slot position MAIN/JIB

We know these things affect the speed of the boat. How can we know how
to get the Max Effect? What do we look for?
We know those "Dumd Ass sialing to those Bernoulli postioned tel-tails
are going faster. Help us converts to Newtons Law.

Ole Thom

from the dictionary:

chord2 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kôrd, krd)
n.
A straight line connecting the leading and trailing edges of an airfoil.

No Jax;

There are many, many straight line in aviation that are called just
that, and you know it.

You also know that "Chord" is used as a measurement in Airfoil
dimensions. Also used in Sail Trim.

However, that does't answer the question about Sail Trim for Newton's
Law, does it? That is the question that has been posed to you. How do us
"OLD SAILORS" know how to get the most out of sail trim adjusting for
Newton's Law. What do we look for as we adjust;
Halyard tension

Outhaul

Cunningham

Sheet tension

Vang tension

Slot position MAIN/JIB

We know these things affect the speed of the boat. How can we know how
to get the Max Effect? What do we look for?
We know those "Dumd Ass sialing to those Bernoulli postioned tel-tails
are going faster. Help us converts to Newtons Law.

Ole Thom

You also know that "Chord" is used as a measurement in Airfoil
dimensions.

incredible that the olde fart thinks a curved line is straight.