We go to the movie theater to watch movies...


Not a well rounded cultural statement is it? There are many wonderful films
that are not showing up at the local theatres. DVD is one of the few ways to
see them. Also: If you enjoy music, a home theatre is stunning to say the
least.

RB

We go to the movie theater to watch movies....the only time I used our VCR
in the past year .

A brand name DVD player can be had for $119. Picture would be much better than
tape and Dolby 5.1 digital soundtrack is tossed in for free. Save the VCR for
watching old birthday parties.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Donal,
You are stereotyping the lifestyle here. I have a smallish
refrigerator...14 cubic ft...

That is twice the size of our refrigerator!!!!



we drive cars that get 30 mpg and we buy them
new and drive them until they die...

Mine 33mpg, my wife's 41mpg(AFAIK).


we use our air conditioner maybe 5 days

We don't have air conditioning at home.


a summer and never I never use the air conditioner in my car but prefer to
have the window open...

I admit that I use the air conditioning in the car.


You don't have a TV?

I hardly watch it any more. I spend three hours at the piano, I watch the
news, then I come here.


We have a small set in the
living room and then we have the old tv in the family room that we very
seldom use except when the grandkids are here and want to play with the
Play
Station...I do my dishes by hand,

So do we.


di not have an insinkerator or a trash
compacter...

Neither do we.

we recycle all out pop bottles and reuse out plastic milk
cartons until they literally are no longer usable...Think is, most of my
friends live the same way...

We sort our refuse. Paper goes in the "paper" bin, plastics go in the
"plastic" bin ... etc.


You can't judge us from tv shows..

I don't. 25% of energy consumed by humans is used in the US. I didn't
get this figure from tv shows. You use 7 times more energy than the rest of
the planet's occupants.

Your fridge is twice the size of mine, your car is a gas guzzler compared to
my wife's car.... you have air-conditioning.

Do you really think that my (bio-degradable) cigarette butts are doing more
harm to the environment than your luxurious lifestyle?


Regards


Donal
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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 00:27:12 +0100, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:


Do you really think that cigarette butts will have the same impact on the
environment as Global Warming?

Your big fridges, car engines, air-conditioning, TV's, etc have a far
bigger
effect on the environment than cigarette butts.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Oh OK, so we just ignore the plastic bags, fish nets and allthe other
crap because we have some bigger issues?

Sure Donal...sure.

I was talking about bio-degradable cigarette butts. Are you really stupid
enough to compare them to plastic bags?


Like many people, you like to look down your nose at people who have a bad
habit that you don't have. It makes you feel superior.

Well, let me tell you that there is no end to this kind of thinking. Fat
people are also in a minority, and already there is talk about the drain
that they place on the health service. Sports fishermen are a minority, and
we are seeing discussion about the unnecessary pain caused to fish. We all
engage in pursuits that have an effect on the environment. Once you join
the "something must be done about it" brigade, you guarantee that one of
your own pursuits will eventually be banned.


Regards


Donal
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OzOne wrote in message ...
Hmmmm, those smokers can do whatever they like Donal.
Unfortunately they seem incapable when smoking on out beaches of
disposing of their butts sensibly.
They have ben banned as a direct result of their own actions

Nonsense!! They have been banned because people like you like to feel
superior!

You're going to be next, Oz.

You will find that you enjoy something that the majority of people don't
approve of.

Perhaps you like to drive an inefficient car?? Over here, we already have
a sliding tax scale that penalises gas guzzlers. Each year we get a step
nearer to a total ban. Soon, anything over three litres will be banned.
After that, two litres will be the maximum.

Regards


Donal
--

On Sun, 23 May 2004 00:24:25 +0100, something compelled "Donal"
, to say:

Sports fishermen are a minority, and
we are seeing discussion about the unnecessary pain caused to fish.

The pain caused to the fish, while perhaps regrettable, is
entirely necessary. Else how are we to drag them from the water
and cut out their guts prior to eating them?

A brand name DVD player can be had for $119.

Well, then we've saved $119.00. If we had one, we wouldn't use it...except
for Star Trek reruns and American Idol, we barely watch tv...

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

That is twice the size of our refrigerator!!!!

What? You have a box? Our fridge is small....Y think also that you guys
grocery shop different;y than we do... we buy a week or two's worth at a
time and don't go to the store every day...Don't Europeans buy food almost
every day?
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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

You're right, Old Wise One. Plus, it isn't the hourly rate that the worker
gets, but the other costs ( union crapola, OSHA payoffs, insurance, taxes,
licenses etc.) that really add up, so I was told this week.

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Oz,

I tried hard to stay out of this but the spirit is to weak.

Scotty, it's not the labor cost. It's the pollution cost. Aussies drew a
bye on the "Kobi Accord" The cost of modification to the new Eniv. code
is shutting down many plants in this country. Still has time down-under.

OT

"katysails" wrote
You are stereotyping the lifestyle here. I have a smallish
refrigerator...14 cubic ft...

we have a big fridge and a chest freezer downstairs.

we drive cars that get 30 mpg

my truck gets 5.5 MPG. I burned 600+ galloms of diesel this week.


...we use our air conditioner maybe 5 days
a summer

we run ours from April ~ Sept. Even cools the deck some with the door open.



and never I never use the air conditioner in my car but prefer to
have the window open...

Too many bugs fly into an open window.

You don't have a TV?

we bought a big screen TV and DVD player this winter.

We have a small set in the
living room and then we have the old tv in the family room that we very
seldom use except when the grandkids are here and want to play with the
Play
Station...

we have 4 TVs.

I do my dishes by hand,

don't do dishes, I'm married.

di not have an insinkerator or a trash
compacter...we recycle all out pop bottles and reuse out plastic milk
cartons until they literally are no longer usable...

I burn all trash and bury the ashes twice a year.


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Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__