Checking up on Doug's clear assertion (below) I find that Doug is not
correct. North say their fastest spinnaker is a radial and that 2003
Lightning world champions use them.

http://www.northsailsod.com/class/li...lightning.html

"For top performance and durability, we offer the R-2 and the RC-1
spinnakers. Both spinnakers are fill radial with fully glued seams for
smoothness and resistance to snags. Both are built from AirX fabric."

Tell me Doug, why did you say that they were cross cut? Are you confused
or BSing? Are you now going to take my spinnaker advice and get a faster
radial sail?

Cheers

DSK wrote:


Really? That must be why the current North and Sobstad runners on
Lightnings (and a few other one designs I believe) are all cross cut.

Navigator wrote:
Checking up on Doug's clear assertion (below) I find that Doug is not
correct. North say their fastest spinnaker is a radial and that 2003
Lightning world champions use them.

http://www.northsailsod.com/class/li...lightning.html

"For top performance and durability, we offer the R-2 and the RC-1
spinnakers. Both spinnakers are fill radial with fully glued seams for
smoothness and resistance to snags. Both are built from AirX fabric."

Please quote the part that says specifically which spinnakers the 2003
World (or for that matter the 2003 NA) champs use. In fact it says
specifically that the R-2 and RC-1 are *reaching* spinnakers. You know
the difference between reaching and running, yes?

If you looked further down that same page you find the Bruin and another
cross cut runner.

"The Bruin has long been recognized for the downwind performer that it
is. Slightly flatter in the middle for 1998, the Bruim is much more an
all-around performer with little sacrifice to its proven broad reaching
and running performance."

Gee, you must be wetting your pants thinking that you've *finally* shown
me wrong, for once. Of course, you almost were a man and admitted your
mistake about those big old wooden ships, but now that's all behind you,
eh? Back to the same old bluff & bluster for Navvie!

Fresh Breezes (to them wot kin use 'em)- Doug King

DSK wrote:

Navigator wrote:

Checking up on Doug's clear assertion (below) I find that Doug is not
correct. North say their fastest spinnaker is a radial and that 2003
Lightning world champions use them.

http://www.northsailsod.com/class/li...lightning.html

"For top performance and durability, we offer the R-2 and the RC-1
spinnakers. Both spinnakers are fill radial with fully glued seams for
smoothness and resistance to snags. Both are built from AirX fabric."



Back to the same old bluff & bluster for Doug King

Navigator wrote:
Back to the same old bluff & bluster for Doug King

Is it "bluff and bluster" that North builds cross cut spinnakers and
says themselves that they are faster for running and broad reaching?
It's right on their web site, right one the exact page you quoted!
Possibly you missed the bit about "reaching" and "pole a foot off the
forestay." Or maybe you didn't grasp what it means?

DSK

DSK wrote:

Back to the same old bluff & bluster for Doug King

Navigator wrote:
DSK wrote:

Back to the same old bluff & bluster for Doug King

Well, let's see:

Navigator wrote:
I was there

Except that you didn't know where you were. And you didn't know what
ship you were talking about. But you were very eager to try and prove
that everybody else was stupid.

Now you're back to spinnakers. On and on and on you go, even quoting a
sailmakers web site, except that it proved you wrong so you had to go
hunting for something else.

Then you combed the Internet looking for race results with my name...
before that, you were threatening to email some naval architects to try
and prove how I didn't know about stability... didn't pan out for you
either...

The list goes on and on. Don't you have anything better to do? Do you
think your department might consider this behavior embarassing?

DSK