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"N1EE" wrote: Your spring project reports are due soon. (10 pts) What sort of projects have you been doing to improve your boat? Report in, or take a dozen lashes! I'm thinking about washing the deck one of these days. Seahag |
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Great
I'm thinking about washing the dock one of these days. Seahag |
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Wanna help?
Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Great I'm thinking about washing the dock one of these days. Seahag |
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I suggest the best way to fair is with a long board, not an orbital.
Cheers MC N1EE wrote: Your spring project reports are due soon. (10 pts) What sort of projects have you been doing to improve your boat? Report in, or take a dozen lashes! My report: Hull Fairing and Painting Project The last few weeks I've been fairing the hull of my big boat with a goal of getting it in the water by May 30th. I've just about completed the bottom of the hull, and plan one more layup of fairing material on the hull. So far I must have over 24 hours of sanding, and my brother has another 16 hours logged. Time to move the poppets and fair the areas under them. I've been fairing the thru-hulls to take them from nipple size down to the opening diameter. Here's what I've learned about fairing a hull. 1. Make small batches of fairing material and apply each batch carefully. Excess has to be sanded off. Mix your own and use lots of filler to make it easier to sand. Several thin layers are easier to work than a single thick layer. I used West 410 filler and found it mixed well, and was not too hard to sand. 407 filler was harder to mix but sanded much easier. 2. Fair every inch of the hull--don't be lazy. I used a 6" knife to spread it. I cleaned it with solvent when applying more than one batch. When leaving overnight, It was faster just to break the plastic off the knife the following day. 3. The best sander to use is a 6" orbital hook and loop --6 hole hook and loop--60-80 grit paper. I also used an air powered longboards for final sanding--use 80-100 grit. 4. Use a vacuum cleaner with the sander and get plenty of bags. 5. Stay upwind of the sander, and pick a cool, windy cool day and get the job done quickly If you stay upwind of the grit on a windy day, you won't need a repirator. 6. Repeat the fairing and sanding a few times and it will look good. 7. Use a respirator when you are underneath the sander. Always use eye protection. 8. Take asprin or other pain killers before you start working--trust me on that one. You'll get more done. 9. Drink at least two beers after every hard day and go to bed early, so you can start in again early the next day. Future work: The keel needs a little more sanding and fairing, as does the rudder. I've discovered my rudder is actually slightly concave. It was repaired at some point. My feeling is I need to fill the hollow spot six inches in from the trailing edge to make it flat or slightly convex. I'm worried that as it is--slightly concave, it'll make the rudder prone to stalling. Next comes barrier coat and bottom paint. I'm going with copper-poxy, which needs lots more sanding, but lasts years longer and can be sanded in the water. It also serves as a barrier coat, which might save some work. The shrink wrapp comes off soon. It is starting to get in the way. So far we have had very little rain, most of that has passed to the north and missed the boat. My wooden platform is also getting in the way. Time to bite the bullet, buy a longer ladder, and improve work access to the topsides. After May 1st, I'm going to borrow a mast dolly, sand and paint the mast, replacing some shives, and work on the masthead. I want to stick a couple of extra Ham antennas up there and haven't figured out how to do that yet. Bart Senior |
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As promised, some pics. Almost all the engine work is done - now I have the buffing and painting. Launch in about a week. Here's a shot down one of the exhaust elbows, chipped out, but not dremmel'd: http://www.sv-loki.com/carbon.jpg The elbow with a "U" http://www.sv-loki.com/exhaust.jpg Here's the clump of eel grass I pulled out. The gasket for the end of the core assembly is shown for scale. The intake chamber is the smaller part of the gasket, one third of the core. The grass is fluffed up compared to how it was when pulled out. http://www.sv-loki.com/eelgrass.jpg The Volvo prop, 16x11 http://www.sv-loki.com/propopen.jpg http://www.sv-loki.com/propclosed.jpg Looking forward under "Loki" - in front is a Prout 37: http://www.sv-loki.com/pdqprout.jpg "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "N1EE" wrote in message om... Good report, but not enough detail. 8 points. Any pictures? The eel grass would have been interesting to see. Tomorrow, maybe - I did save the largest clump. What sort of props do you have? Volvo two blade folding What do you recommend for raw water strainers? There's no cheap way because you need full flow. I'm thinking Groco 750's. Defender is $75 - WasteMarine is $99. I always wondered why they weren't standard on the boat, but I guess they think the saildrive feed acts as a strainer. All in all, it wasn't a lot of debris for 5 years, but it did get inconveniently far into the system. What is with the carbon in the exhaust elbows? One engine has a severe bend in the hose between the elbow and the muffler - about one foot radius. I'm thinking this causes enough back pressure to carbon up the elbow. This is the forth time I've pulled it, but the buildup wasn't that severe. The first time it was 80% clogged, so I figure its worth doing every year or so. This is the second time for the other engine - its buildup isn't to bad. Like a lot of jobs, the first time is hard and stressful - then it gets quick and easy. Four bolts releases it from the block, so the only hassle is the big exhaust hose. Is this the first time you have serviced it? I've done all this before, except for the heat exchanger core. I wish I had done that several years ago. How did you find this problems? A mechanic at Ashley Marina in Charleston, SC was fixing an oil leak (warranty work - a bad gasket in the original setup) and didn't like the way it reved up. When he realized we also used that engine for battery charging, he decided it was worth looking at the elbow. His advice was to reroute the exhaust (which I haven't done), rev higher when possible, and pull the elbow every 300 hours. How often does this item need service? See above. I'm thinking in a year or two I'll just replace the elbows. Are you coming up to Long Island Sound this year? We're hoping to get to Maine this Summer. Also, it's likely we'll go to the Vineyard and maybe Nantucket. Further South than Newport or Cutyhunk is unlikely. When are you getting out out of the Sound?. -jeff |
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OzOne wrote in message ... On 24 Apr 2004 17:21:52 -0700, (N1EE) scribbled thusly: Oz, by the way, you are not showing up on my newsgroup reader except when someone replies to your posts. Oz, I think that you missed part of Bart's post. Bart, Oz has the "No-Archive" option set on all his posts. That means that Google doesn't store his posts. Bill Gates and The Sultan of Brunei do the same thing. When I become incredibly wealthy, I'm going to set "No-Archive" option on all my posts. Regards Donal -- |
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It's also to stop you being embarrased at a later date...
Cheers Donal wrote: OzOne wrote in message ... On 24 Apr 2004 17:21:52 -0700, (N1EE) scribbled thusly: Oz, by the way, you are not showing up on my newsgroup reader except when someone replies to your posts. Oz, I think that you missed part of Bart's post. Bart, Oz has the "No-Archive" option set on all his posts. That means that Google doesn't store his posts. Bill Gates and The Sultan of Brunei do the same thing. When I become incredibly wealthy, I'm going to set "No-Archive" option on all my posts. Regards Donal -- |
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I'd love to. Should be down your way sometime in the next 3 months.
Scotty "Seahag" wrote in message ... Wanna help? Seahag "Scott Vernon" wrote: Great I'm thinking about washing the dock one of these days. Seahag |
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"Donal" wrote When I become incredibly wealthy, I'm going to set "No-Archive" option on all my posts. why? |
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If your exhaust elbow looks that bad and nees cleaning with a Dremel tool you
should just spring for a new one. Your probably not far away from pin hole leaks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Marc wrote:
Jeff: tip for the futu needing to pull the heat exchanger cores is very rare. Just drop the end caps and use a 22 cal. bore brush. DO NOT do this! At least, don't use a metal bristle. Heat exchanger tubes are relatively soft, using a gun barrel cleaning brush will erode them badly. Also the brush rod is a hazard to break the tube. Use a thin wooden dowel to clean heat exchanger tubes. DSK |
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I was out on the Sound two weeks ago. I was the
first in the club to go sailing. I made it half way to middle ground (Stratford Shoal). That's a cool lighthouse in the center of Long Island Sound. So far only three of four members have their boats in the water, and I haven't seen any of them with their sails up. Total, I've been out sailing three times so far on the Etchells, the last two times I sailed solo but cheated and used the mains'l alone. I still have some tunning to do. My goal is to get the big boat in the water by the end of May, and then to move on it until I finish off the interior. I've ripped out half the galley and aft head, and need to finish putting that back together. Bart "Jeff Morris" wrote Are you coming up to Long Island Sound this year? We're hoping to get to Maine this Summer. Also, it's likely we'll go to the Vineyard and maybe Nantucket. Further South than Newport or Cutyhunk is unlikely. When are you getting out out of the Sound?. -jeff |
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Well make sure you don't mix them up!
Cheers N1EE wrote: My goal is to get the big boat in the water by the end of May, and then to move on it until I finish off the interior. I've ripped out half the galley and aft head, and need to finish putting that back together. |
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You may be right, but they've looked this bad for the last 500 hours, and
there's still a lot of metal in them. I think I'll buy a pair for the future, since the price doesn't seem to go down. One advantage of pulling them frequently is that I can swap them in about 30 minutes. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... If your exhaust elbow looks that bad and nees cleaning with a Dremel tool you should just spring for a new one. Your probably not far away from pin hole leaks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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N1EE wrote:
Your spring project reports are due soon. (10 pts) Well, since I'm working on the boat pretty much full time, I don't really have any "spring" projects. But here is a list of what is currently going on: Final stages of installing heater: wiring 12V power to the main board, insulating the exhaust (which involves wrapping a special hi-temp "spun ceramic" (does that sound better then just plain "fiberglass"?) tape around the exhaust pipe inside the welded-on heat shield... not fun), filling & testing the water loop, finish the mounting & insulating of the water loop hoses, route the air intake. Maybe by summer the heater will be working! Installing remote mike/speaker/control head for VHF radio. Clean engine heate exchangers, install new hose. Install new raw water impeller. Rebuild battery platform (already done this for the genset start battery)... btw a great source of strong rot & rust proof material is thick plastic cutting board. It's resistant to battery acid too and a really big one costs $7 at Wal-Mart or the like. Much cheaper than Star-Board! Remake fuel system connection with slow (1 drop every 3 days) leak. Install check valve in fuel line to genset. Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job invovling WEST epoxy. Later this year I'm going to install a new house battery bank. To show what involved, the first step is cutting a hatch in the fore cabin sole to get access under that space. One reason the heater project has taken so long is that every little step has required the massive amounts of planning, re-planning, and eons of labor. My report: Hull Fairing and Painting Project Hoo-ee... now there's a LOT of labor. I've faired some boats 24' and smaller. One thing to do that makes it easier to see what's happening is to use different colors, just t little, in each successive batch of fairing compound. I feel it should not take more than three passes to get it all perfect (although on a 46' hull, each pass represents a HUGE amount of labor) otherwise you're just plastering it on and sanding it off. But the results are really nice... fairing the hull was the single biggest go-fast improvement I did to the Lightning. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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How tight do you make up on the reverse threaded union?. Do you dope
the joint? Every time I've had to decouple, its taken a robust bench vise, a 2' Stilson and a cheater pipe. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:05:03 -0400, "Jeff Morris" wrote: You may be right, but they've looked this bad for the last 500 hours, and there's still a lot of metal in them. I think I'll buy a pair for the future, since the price doesn't seem to go down. One advantage of pulling them frequently is that I can swap them in about 30 minutes. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... If your exhaust elbow looks that bad and nees cleaning with a Dremel tool you should just spring for a new one. Your probably not far away from pin hole leaks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Actually, I haven't pulled them apart since the first time - most of the buildup
seems to be where the water hits the exhaust. The time they did come apart was at the mechanic's bench, with a large pipe wrench, a cheater, and a few nasty words. When the time comes, I'll probably get both the elbow and mixer together. I suppose I should have at least one set ready to put in when it blows out in the middle of a cruise. This is the two sides of having twin engines - twice the expense of parts like this, but I do have the luxury of the ultimate backup. "Marc" wrote in message ... How tight do you make up on the reverse threaded union?. Do you dope the joint? Every time I've had to decouple, its taken a robust bench vise, a 2' Stilson and a cheater pipe. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:05:03 -0400, "Jeff Morris" wrote: You may be right, but they've looked this bad for the last 500 hours, and there's still a lot of metal in them. I think I'll buy a pair for the future, since the price doesn't seem to go down. One advantage of pulling them frequently is that I can swap them in about 30 minutes. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... If your exhaust elbow looks that bad and nees cleaning with a Dremel tool you should just spring for a new one. Your probably not far away from pin hole leaks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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I replace them as a matter of maintenence every 400 hrs (4 years) or
when I feel the top plate beginning to get warm, which ever comes first.. The weak point in the mixer is the septum between the water injection and the gas injection point. As the septum corrodes back, the mixing point moves back towards the engine. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:02:04 -0400, "Jeff Morris" wrote: Actually, I haven't pulled them apart since the first time - most of the buildup seems to be where the water hits the exhaust. The time they did come apart was at the mechanic's bench, with a large pipe wrench, a cheater, and a few nasty words. When the time comes, I'll probably get both the elbow and mixer together. I suppose I should have at least one set ready to put in when it blows out in the middle of a cruise. This is the two sides of having twin engines - twice the expense of parts like this, but I do have the luxury of the ultimate backup. "Marc" wrote in message .. . How tight do you make up on the reverse threaded union?. Do you dope the joint? Every time I've had to decouple, its taken a robust bench vise, a 2' Stilson and a cheater pipe. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:05:03 -0400, "Jeff Morris" wrote: You may be right, but they've looked this bad for the last 500 hours, and there's still a lot of metal in them. I think I'll buy a pair for the future, since the price doesn't seem to go down. One advantage of pulling them frequently is that I can swap them in about 30 minutes. "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... If your exhaust elbow looks that bad and nees cleaning with a Dremel tool you should just spring for a new one. Your probably not far away from pin hole leaks. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Ok, I'm backing using a differenet newsgroup reader, so I can
see your posts Oz. I wrote for more information on them. The pictures don't give enough detail. What sort of sandpaper do you use? Well at this point, I'm nearly done fairing. My friend Marty thinks what I've done so far is fine. I know better, I still have a few probelm areas to fix, plus the areas under the poppets. Still the end is in sight and I'll be painting soon. Today it is raining so I have a day off. I'm worn out. I can feel every tendon and ligament in both shoulders and arms. Sanding a boat would be great training for a boxer. OzOne wrote But the Powerboard product seems very interesting Yep, they are superb. When you first look at em you think Kerist, that things gonna weigh a ton but they are pretty light and the suction helps hold em to the surface. Virtually no dust! Beg to differ, but the BEST sander to use is the Powerboard http://www.atlcomposites.com/product...powerboard.htm |
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When do you start varnishing?
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I'll give you 2 more points for full credit, and another 2 points as a
bonus for the nice pictures. What is that growing on your saildrive? Bart Jeff Morris wrote in message ... As promised, some pics. Almost all the engine work is done - now I have the buffing and painting. Launch in about a week. Here's a shot down one of the exhaust elbows, chipped out, but not dremmel'd: http://www.sv-loki.com/carbon.jpg The elbow with a "U" http://www.sv-loki.com/exhaust.jpg Here's the clump of eel grass I pulled out. The gasket for the end of the core assembly is shown for scale. The intake chamber is the smaller part of the gasket, one third of the core. The grass is fluffed up compared to how it was when pulled out. http://www.sv-loki.com/eelgrass.jpg The Volvo prop, 16x11 http://www.sv-loki.com/propopen.jpg http://www.sv-loki.com/propclosed.jpg Looking forward under "Loki" - in front is a Prout 37: http://www.sv-loki.com/pdqprout.jpg "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "N1EE" wrote in message om... Good report, but not enough detail. 8 points. Any pictures? The eel grass would have been interesting to see. Tomorrow, maybe - I did save the largest clump. What sort of props do you have? Volvo two blade folding What do you recommend for raw water strainers? There's no cheap way because you need full flow. I'm thinking Groco 750's. Defender is $75 - WasteMarine is $99. I always wondered why they weren't standard on the boat, but I guess they think the saildrive feed acts as a strainer. All in all, it wasn't a lot of debris for 5 years, but it did get inconveniently far into the system. What is with the carbon in the exhaust elbows? One engine has a severe bend in the hose between the elbow and the muffler - about one foot radius. I'm thinking this causes enough back pressure to carbon up the elbow. This is the forth time I've pulled it, but the buildup wasn't that severe. The first time it was 80% clogged, so I figure its worth doing every year or so. This is the second time for the other engine - its buildup isn't to bad. Like a lot of jobs, the first time is hard and stressful - then it gets quick and easy. Four bolts releases it from the block, so the only hassle is the big exhaust hose. Is this the first time you have serviced it? I've done all this before, except for the heat exchanger core. I wish I had done that several years ago. How did you find this problems? A mechanic at Ashley Marina in Charleston, SC was fixing an oil leak (warranty work - a bad gasket in the original setup) and didn't like the way it reved up. When he realized we also used that engine for battery charging, he decided it was worth looking at the elbow. His advice was to reroute the exhaust (which I haven't done), rev higher when possible, and pull the elbow every 300 hours. How often does this item need service? See above. I'm thinking in a year or two I'll just replace the elbows. Are you coming up to Long Island Sound this year? We're hoping to get to Maine this Summer. Also, it's likely we'll go to the Vineyard and maybe Nantucket. Further South than Newport or Cutyhunk is unlikely. When are you getting out out of the Sound?. -jeff |
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DSK wrote
Rebuild battery platform (already done this for the genset start battery)... btw a great source of strong rot & rust proof material is thick plastic cutting board. It's resistant to battery acid too and a really big one costs $7 at Wal-Mart or the like. Much cheaper than Star-Board! I'm using some of this to make mast block spacers. Great stuff and like you said cheap. I need to figure out how to secure my batteries for a rollover. No hurry there, since I don't plan to take it on the ocean anytime soon. Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job involving WEST epoxy. I do so much of it, I'm thinking about buying a vacuum bagger pump. My friend Marty says a vacuum cleaner will work. Have you tried that? Later this year I'm going to install a new house battery bank. To show what involved, the first step is cutting a hatch in the fore cabin sole to get access under that space. One reason the heater project has taken so long is that every little step has required the massive amounts of planning, re-planning, and eons of labor. Well, I assume you have your wife's support. My ex-girlfriend stood in my way--no longer. Last year I had to spend 2.5 months in California. So I'm grateful to have time this year to finish it off, and noone standing in my way. In the Air Force, we used to say, "Lead, Follow, or Get Out of the Way!" You are fortunate to have a wife who likes boats as much as you do. My report: Hull Fairing and Painting Project Hoo-ee... now there's a LOT of labor. I've faired some boats 24' and smaller. One thing to do that makes it easier to see what's happening is to use different colors, just t little, in each successive batch of fairing compound. I feel it should not take more than three passes to get it all perfect (although on a 46' hull, each pass represents a HUGE amount of labor) otherwise you're just plastering it on and sanding it off. But the results are really nice... fairing the hull was the single biggest go-fast improvement I did to the Lightning. Huge labor is right. After I'm done, I'm going to become a professional arm wrestler. I had so much area to do I found I never had enough materials. So my boat looks like a patchwork doll with difference colors in different places, and on top of each other. I'll take a picture if I can find my digitial camera. Why don't you post some picture for us of your projects? Bart |
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Barnacles. The hull has had much Micron Extra, so it came clean with the
powerwash. The saildrive itself has had generous dousing in old style TBT spray. But the rubber fairing shroud between them can have neither, so it gets the growth. The shroud is not the seal, there are two more rubber layers underneath, with a moisture sensor between them. The entire engine/drive floats on soft mounts, so there is virtually no vibration transmitted. From the helm, or in the main cabin, you can't hear the engines unless they're rev'd up. "Bart Senior" wrote in message . net... I'll give you 2 more points for full credit, and another 2 points as a bonus for the nice pictures. What is that growing on your saildrive? Bart Jeff Morris wrote in message ... As promised, some pics. Almost all the engine work is done - now I have the buffing and painting. Launch in about a week. Here's a shot down one of the exhaust elbows, chipped out, but not dremmel'd: http://www.sv-loki.com/carbon.jpg The elbow with a "U" http://www.sv-loki.com/exhaust.jpg Here's the clump of eel grass I pulled out. The gasket for the end of the core assembly is shown for scale. The intake chamber is the smaller part of the gasket, one third of the core. The grass is fluffed up compared to how it was when pulled out. http://www.sv-loki.com/eelgrass.jpg The Volvo prop, 16x11 http://www.sv-loki.com/propopen.jpg http://www.sv-loki.com/propclosed.jpg Looking forward under "Loki" - in front is a Prout 37: http://www.sv-loki.com/pdqprout.jpg "Jeff Morris" wrote in message ... "N1EE" wrote in message om... Good report, but not enough detail. 8 points. Any pictures? The eel grass would have been interesting to see. Tomorrow, maybe - I did save the largest clump. What sort of props do you have? Volvo two blade folding What do you recommend for raw water strainers? There's no cheap way because you need full flow. I'm thinking Groco 750's. Defender is $75 - WasteMarine is $99. I always wondered why they weren't standard on the boat, but I guess they think the saildrive feed acts as a strainer. All in all, it wasn't a lot of debris for 5 years, but it did get inconveniently far into the system. What is with the carbon in the exhaust elbows? One engine has a severe bend in the hose between the elbow and the muffler - about one foot radius. I'm thinking this causes enough back pressure to carbon up the elbow. This is the forth time I've pulled it, but the buildup wasn't that severe. The first time it was 80% clogged, so I figure its worth doing every year or so. This is the second time for the other engine - its buildup isn't to bad. Like a lot of jobs, the first time is hard and stressful - then it gets quick and easy. Four bolts releases it from the block, so the only hassle is the big exhaust hose. Is this the first time you have serviced it? I've done all this before, except for the heat exchanger core. I wish I had done that several years ago. How did you find this problems? A mechanic at Ashley Marina in Charleston, SC was fixing an oil leak (warranty work - a bad gasket in the original setup) and didn't like the way it reved up. When he realized we also used that engine for battery charging, he decided it was worth looking at the elbow. His advice was to reroute the exhaust (which I haven't done), rev higher when possible, and pull the elbow every 300 hours. How often does this item need service? See above. I'm thinking in a year or two I'll just replace the elbows. Are you coming up to Long Island Sound this year? We're hoping to get to Maine this Summer. Also, it's likely we'll go to the Vineyard and maybe Nantucket. Further South than Newport or Cutyhunk is unlikely. When are you getting out out of the Sound?. -jeff |
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DSK wrote in message ...
N1EE wrote: Your spring project reports are due soon. (10 pts) Well, since I'm working on the boat pretty much full time, I don't really have any "spring" projects. But here is a list of what is currently going on: Final stages of installing heater: wiring 12V power to the main board, insulating the exhaust (which involves wrapping a special hi-temp "spun ceramic" (does that sound better then just plain "fiberglass"?) Sounds better than asbestos! tape around the exhaust pipe inside the welded-on heat shield... not fun), filling & testing the water loop, finish the mounting & insulating of the water loop hoses, route the air intake. Maybe by summer the heater will be working! Installing remote mike/speaker/control head for VHF radio. Should of bought one with that feature! Clean engine heate exchangers, install new hose. Yeah me to soon. Install new raw water impeller. Yelp me to soon Rebuild battery platform (already done this for the genset start battery)... btw a great source of strong rot & rust proof material is thick plastic cutting board. It's resistant to battery acid too and a really big one costs $7 at Wal-Mart or the like. Much cheaper than Star-Board! Yelp we use walmart big batteries they last 2 years or so Remake fuel system connection with slow (1 drop every 3 days) leak. Ugh, do you have an air trap? Install check valve in fuel line to genset. Your gen set fuel pump does not have a check valve buildt in? Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job invovling WEST epoxy. Not gonna last, your wasting time, afro american engineering. Later this year I'm going to install a new house battery bank. To show what involved, the first step is cutting a hatch in the fore cabin sole to get access under that space. One reason the heater project has taken so long is that every little step has required the massive amounts of planning, re-planning, and eons of labor. Sounds like a cramped little boat. My report: Hull Fairing and Painting Project Hoo-ee... now there's a LOT of labor. Yelp so much Ill never bother to do redclouds hull. I like the salty look ;0) Joe I've faired some boats 24' and smaller. One thing to do that makes it easier to see what's happening is to use different colors, just t little, in each successive batch of fairing compound. I feel it should not take more than three passes to get it all perfect (although on a 46' hull, each pass represents a HUGE amount of labor) otherwise you're just plastering it on and sanding it off. But the results are really nice... fairing the hull was the single biggest go-fast improvement I did to the Lightning. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote When I become incredibly wealthy, I'm going to set "No-Archive" option on all my posts. why? That's a hypothetical question. Regards Donal -- |
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Installing remote mike/speaker/control head for VHF radio.
Joe wrote: Should of bought one with that feature! We did. But I didn't want to spring the additional $$ for the self installing model ;) Clean engine heate exchangers, install new hose. Yeah me to soon. Don't put it off... especially as the Gulf water heats up. Install new raw water impeller. Yelp me to soon Another thing to not delay These things have a way of catching you just before you were gonna do the job. Remake fuel system connection with slow (1 drop every 3 days) leak. Ugh, do you have an air trap? Install check valve in fuel line to genset. Your gen set fuel pump does not have a check valve buildt in? I would have thought either the lift pump, or the injector pump, or both, would function as a check valve. But apparently not. The main engine will run for about 15 minutes with the genset supply valve open. Then it coughs and dies and I have to bleed it (on this engine, not a big problem). Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job invovling WEST epoxy. Not gonna last, your wasting time, afro american engineering. No, I think it will be solid for all the ages to come. ....every little step has required the massive amounts of planning, re-planning, and eons of labor. Sounds like a cramped little boat. No, it's a 20,000# disp 36' trawler. But it's already got a lot of installed systems and they didn't think ahead to leave owners 20 years in the future a lot of blank room for additions. I guess the builder of your boat did so? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Bart Senior wrote:
... I need to figure out how to secure my batteries for a rollover. No hurry there, since I don't plan to take it on the ocean anytime soon. Your boat is very safe from a rollover, assuming non Cape Horn conditions. But it doesn't hurt to secure the batteries against extremem angles of heel & violent motion, if you plan to sail the boat hard. Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job involving WEST epoxy. I do so much of it, I'm thinking about buying a vacuum bagger pump. My friend Marty says a vacuum cleaner will work. Have you tried that? Yes but you have to get a venturi or you will burn up the motor. I have a PVC venturi that I hook a slack tube manometer to, for a vacuum gage. You are fortunate to have a wife who likes boats as much as you do. Oh yes, I am a very lucky man. Marrying a good woman is the best of it, but I've had more than my share of luck in many ways. Hoo-ee... on a 46' hull, each pass represents a HUGE amount of labor Huge labor is right. After I'm done, I'm going to become a professional arm wrestler. Nothing like hard work to build manly muscles ;) I had so much area to do I found I never had enough materials. So my boat looks like a patchwork doll with difference colors in different places, and on top of each other. Different colors layered on top of each other is the best way to see the high & low spots. The 470 I raced many moons ago looked like desert camo when we were fairing it. ... I'll take a picture if I can find my digitial camera. Why don't you post some picture for us of your projects? OK. Taking pictures has been a low priority but there's no reason not to now that the pace has slowed a bit. We did a series of pics lst year for the boatyard work, but we haven't taken any boat work pics since then. Which is a shame because the deck & the varnish have come out marvelously. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Wouldn't this fall under the CG safety with electrical systems
category? Seems like it would... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Bart Senior wrote: ... I need to figure out how to secure my batteries for a rollover. No hurry there, since I don't plan to take it on the ocean anytime soon. Your boat is very safe from a rollover, assuming non Cape Horn conditions. But it doesn't hurt to secure the batteries against extremem angles of heel & violent motion, if you plan to sail the boat hard. Build up spoke/hub of steering wheel to make it less wobbly. I have to have at least one ongoing job involving WEST epoxy. I do so much of it, I'm thinking about buying a vacuum bagger pump. My friend Marty says a vacuum cleaner will work. Have you tried that? Yes but you have to get a venturi or you will burn up the motor. I have a PVC venturi that I hook a slack tube manometer to, for a vacuum gage. You are fortunate to have a wife who likes boats as much as you do. Oh yes, I am a very lucky man. Marrying a good woman is the best of it, but I've had more than my share of luck in many ways. Hoo-ee... on a 46' hull, each pass represents a HUGE amount of labor Huge labor is right. After I'm done, I'm going to become a professional arm wrestler. Nothing like hard work to build manly muscles ;) I had so much area to do I found I never had enough materials. So my boat looks like a patchwork doll with difference colors in different places, and on top of each other. Different colors layered on top of each other is the best way to see the high & low spots. The 470 I raced many moons ago looked like desert camo when we were fairing it. ... I'll take a picture if I can find my digitial camera. Why don't you post some picture for us of your projects? OK. Taking pictures has been a low priority but there's no reason not to now that the pace has slowed a bit. We did a series of pics lst year for the boatyard work, but we haven't taken any boat work pics since then. Which is a shame because the deck & the varnish have come out marvelously. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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DSK wrote in message ...
No, it's a 20,000# disp 36' trawler. But it's already got a lot of installed systems and they didn't think ahead to leave owners 20 years in the future a lot of blank room for additions. I guess the builder of your boat did so? Well.... yes they did, I have lots of elbow room in the engine room, have easy access to the main and the gen set. Some times I wonder why he did not build a passage way thru the engine room to go from the forward cabin to the aft cabin. Joe Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Ackkkkkkkkk! Not ANOTHER live-aboard!?
"N1EE" wrote My goal is to get the big boat in the water by the end of May, and then to move on it |
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"Donal" wrote why? That's a hypothetical question. no it's not. |
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Not quite yet. I figure if I live aboard I'll get the interior
finished faster. I'd rather live in a house with a big shower and bathroom. Scott Vernon wrote Ackkkkkkkkk! Not ANOTHER live-aboard!? "N1EE" wrote My goal is to get the big boat in the water by the end of May, and then to move on it |
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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote why? That's a hypothetical question. no it's not. I was trying to be polite. Regards Donal -- |
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try harder
"Donal" wrote why? That's a hypothetical question. no it's not. I was trying to be polite. Regards Donal -- |
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1805 and no phone calls for tomorrows' work. Looks like I can finally sneak
down to the boat and get some work done. Scotty "Bart Senior" wrote in message et... Not quite yet. I figure if I live aboard I'll get the interior finished faster. I'd rather live in a house with a big shower and bathroom. Scott Vernon wrote Ackkkkkkkkk! Not ANOTHER live-aboard!? "N1EE" wrote My goal is to get the big boat in the water by the end of May, and then to move on it |
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Bart admitted: I'd rather live in a house with a big
shower and bathroom. So would Scotty, but Lisa makes him stay out in the barn.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... Bart admitted: I'd rather live in a house with a big shower and bathroom. So would Scotty, but Lisa makes him stay out in the barn.... which has a HUGE bathroom........next to it. SV |
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So would Scotty, but Lisa makes him stay out in the barn.... which has a HUGE bathroom........next to it. SV One or two holer? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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"katysails" wrote in message ... So would Scotty, but Lisa makes him stay out in the barn.... which has a HUGE bathroom........next to it. SV One or two holer? One. Lisa and the kids have their own outhouse closer to the house. Scotty |
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