N1EE wrote:
1 point to you Doug.

The local Star sailors here still do it.
I've never done it myself, I usually start
with the bitter end and let it fall randomly,
and only had one easly to clear snag using
that method.

On a boat with a mast head rig, the spinnaker halyard can be long
relative to the cockpit & working area. Something's gotta be done! On
big boats there are a lot of people sitting around with nothing else to
do, so one of them carefully flakes the spi halyard tail into a line
bag. On hotter boats, it's too busy, but you can still have a line bag
with a large opening that it's easy for the skipper or middle man to
drop the tail into and it usually comes out OK.

The first boat I raced seriously was a 470 with a 1:2 spinnaker halyard
led to a squirrel cage (a reel for taking up slack line). This was
considered ultra-modern after the next most recent innovation, the
continuous spinnaker halyard (which actually is very handy and the idea
survives in the A-sail boats with the take-down line led to the middle
of the chute). This was in the 1970s.


I might consider it in fresh water. I'd
prefer to keep my lines clean and dry.

Have you ever used that method?

When I was learning, some people used to throw the sheet into the water
ahead of the boat, to get the line fed around the forestay for the
hoist. Now that's rather old-school, as Oz says.

I'd rather keep lines out of the water myself. It's not good for them
and if another boat snags the line, it's a foul on you. Of course you
could try tying different knots trailing a line as you did 720s... do
they give trophies for that?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

My old 5o5 had the haylard attached to the
center of the chute. I liked it.

I like continuous lines in general. My jib
sheets are rigged that way. Eventually, I'll
put a fine jib adjustment on HOOT and the
tails will be exposed. Right now they
terminate under the deck. So the jib trimmer
can grab the upwind side of the jib sheet,
take up the slack and trim the jib, without
going to leeward if he drops the sheet.

My twings work the same way, each side with
it's own cleat on the console and sharing a
single long line. Nothing on the boat requires
a crew to go to leeward, at most you have to lean
in slightly to reach the console.

I also use a line to connect both whale gusher
pump handles, and they are fed though a bullseye
so either or both can be pumped by pulling on one
line.

I color coded my running rigging, red, white, and
blue, and went fore to aft that way. Jib lines
red, in the middle, the vang, is white, and the
main sheet blue. I picked green for the spinnaker.
One nice thing about re-rigging an old boat, you
can set things up any way you want both color
coding, or with continous lines.

Bart

Why do you like continuous lines for jib sheets?

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"N1EE" wrote in message
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My old 5o5 had the haylard attached to the
center of the chute. I liked it.

I like continuous lines in general. My jib
sheets are rigged that way. Eventually, I'll
put a fine jib adjustment on HOOT and the
tails will be exposed. Right now they
terminate under the deck. So the jib trimmer
can grab the upwind side of the jib sheet,
take up the slack and trim the jib, without
going to leeward if he drops the sheet.

My twings work the same way, each side with
it's own cleat on the console and sharing a
single long line. Nothing on the boat requires
a crew to go to leeward, at most you have to lean
in slightly to reach the console.

I also use a line to connect both whale gusher
pump handles, and they are fed though a bullseye
so either or both can be pumped by pulling on one
line.

I color coded my running rigging, red, white, and
blue, and went fore to aft that way. Jib lines
red, in the middle, the vang, is white, and the
main sheet blue. I picked green for the spinnaker.
One nice thing about re-rigging an old boat, you
can set things up any way you want both color
coding, or with continous lines.

Bart

Jonathan Ganz wrote

Why do you like continuous lines for jib sheets?

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So I don't have to tie them together.

Part of my sailing instructor certification entailed solo sailing
a J-24, for US Sailing, and a Merrit 25 for ASA. I found it
easier to tie the ends of the sheets together with a sheetbend
behind the mainsheet ratchet block so I wouldn't lose them
as I tacked around. It made it easier to retrieve them as I
scrambled around the boat. I sometimes sail other small
boats and I've gotten in the habit of knotting the jib sheets
together there also when sailing solo, or sailing with people
in the way.

If you are in irons or coming off a mooring, and need to
back a sail to push the bow to a given tack--like port tack,
you just haul on the same side sheet--the port side sheet
and you are off--all without going forward and fussing
around.

So I decided to rig HOOT the without the sheet bend
connecting them. I adjusted the length under the foredeck
where I tie it off. I'm thinking about adding another set
of cleats farther aft. My cockpit is long enough that even
with my hiking stick fully extended, I can't reach everything.
I'm putting on some shock cord to help stabilize the tiller
also.

Bart Senior

What US SAILING instructor certification do you
have? Basic keelboat?
S

"Bart Senior" wrote in
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: Jonathan Ganz wrote
:
: Why do you like continuous lines for jib
sheets?
:
: ******************************
:
: So I don't have to tie them together.
:
: Part of my sailing instructor certification
entailed solo sailing
: a J-24, for US Sailing, and a Merrit 25 for
ASA. I found it
: easier to tie the ends of the sheets together
with a sheetbend
: behind the mainsheet ratchet block so I wouldn't
lose them
: as I tacked around. It made it easier to
retrieve them as I
: scrambled around the boat. I sometimes sail
other small
: boats and I've gotten in the habit of knotting
the jib sheets
: together there also when sailing solo, or
sailing with people
: in the way.
:
: If you are in irons or coming off a mooring, and
need to
: back a sail to push the bow to a given
tack--like port tack,
: you just haul on the same side sheet--the port
side sheet
: and you are off--all without going forward and
fussing
: around.
:
: So I decided to rig HOOT the without the sheet
bend
: connecting them. I adjusted the length under
the foredeck
: where I tie it off. I'm thinking about adding
another set
: of cleats farther aft. My cockpit is long
enough that even
: with my hiking stick fully extended, I can't
reach everything.
: I'm putting on some shock cord to help stabilize
the tiller
: also.
:
: Bart Senior
:
:
: