The Dodger Defense
 

I see that Scotty "doesn't like the look of dodgers on small boats" and Katy
found them a "drag."
Well, I've had nothing but positive responses on the dodger from 1st hand
observers, but there's the whole beauty/beholder thing. Sure the dodger can get
in the way, but at the start and end of the season, it's great! You can put it
away during the hotter months. Visibility is fine because the fellow who made
it measured window height from the helm seat. Standing, I can see over it just
fine as well. It's not a tall dodger. It made a cold sail pretty warm and the
connecting white awning will make the whole cockpit cooler at anchor. For years
people told me of the virtues, especially for spring and fall. Now I'm a
believer! Foulies and goggles? That's pretty uncomfortable, even with high end
gear like mine (I own a 900.00 Henry Loyd suit as well as lighter stuff). My
main complaint about it is that getting to the mainsheet forces me to bend a
bit more.
Finally...I added the Dodger because it offers a great grip moving around the
cockpit. The outer shelf is covered in a washable leatherett and is strong
enough to do pullups from. Did I mention that you can leave the companionway
hatch open in the rain and not have a wet interior?
It's yet another choice, of course. Usually, people who have them love them.
People who don't sure don't want to spend the cash on one, so they "prefer"
Goggles. I think the price of a new dodger is crazy and I doubt I would have
gotten one if I had to pay for it.

Note the padded grip along the edge

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/al2.jpg

RB
C&C 32 Alien
City Island

The Dodger Defense
 

so you consider your boat to be 'small'?

Scotty

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I see that Scotty "doesn't like the look of dodgers on small boats" and
Katy
found them a "drag."
Well, I've had nothing but positive responses on the dodger from 1st hand
observers, but there's the whole beauty/beholder thing. Sure the dodger
can get
in the way, but at the start and end of the season, it's great! You can
put it
away during the hotter months. Visibility is fine because the fellow who
made
it measured window height from the helm seat. Standing, I can see over it
just
fine as well. It's not a tall dodger. It made a cold sail pretty warm and
the
connecting white awning will make the whole cockpit cooler at anchor. For
years
people told me of the virtues, especially for spring and fall. Now I'm a
believer! Foulies and goggles? That's pretty uncomfortable, even with high
end
gear like mine (I own a 900.00 Henry Loyd suit as well as lighter stuff).
My
main complaint about it is that getting to the mainsheet forces me to bend
a
bit more.
Finally...I added the Dodger because it offers a great grip moving around
the
cockpit. The outer shelf is covered in a washable leatherett and is strong
enough to do pullups from. Did I mention that you can leave the
companionway
hatch open in the rain and not have a wet interior?
It's yet another choice, of course. Usually, people who have them love
them.
People who don't sure don't want to spend the cash on one, so they
"prefer"
Goggles. I think the price of a new dodger is crazy and I doubt I would
have
gotten one if I had to pay for it.

Note the padded grip along the edge

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/al2.jpg

RB
C&C 32 Alien
City Island

The Dodger Defense
 

you got yours for free??? I thought you said you worked in the yard for it?

Scotty


"Bobsprit" wrote ...
I think the price of a new dodger is crazy and I doubt I would have
gotten one if I had to pay for it.

Note the padded cell , I'm on the edge.

tp://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/al2.jpg

RB
C&C 32 Alien
City Island

The Dodger Defense
 

you got yours for free??? I thought you said you worked in the yard for it?

Selling stuff on Ebay, if you think that's "work." My barter deal with yards
has really worked far better than I expected. It's also covered my entire
season of yard bills and next year's storage. I've had a great time with ebay
and also sold stuff direct much of the time. Still lots more to do, but with
the sailing season kicking in, I'll probably slow down for now. I've also sold
3 boats in 6 weeks as a part time broker.
I've only had one negative experience with Ebay, when a seller sold me a bad
radio that he misrepresented. Ebay insurance recovered the loss. They're a
great outfit.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

So you did pay for the dodger???? I'm getting confused.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you got yours for free??? I thought you said you worked in the yard for
it?

Selling stuff on Ebay, if you think that's "work." My barter deal with
yards
has really worked far better than I expected. It's also covered my entire
season of yard bills and next year's storage. I've had a great time with
ebay
and also sold stuff direct much of the time. Still lots more to do, but
with
the sailing season kicking in, I'll probably slow down for now. I've also
sold
3 boats in 6 weeks as a part time broker.
I've only had one negative experience with Ebay, when a seller sold me a
bad
radio that he misrepresented. Ebay insurance recovered the loss. They're a
great outfit.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

So you did pay for the dodger????

No. I did tip the guy who designed and built it.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

Hey Nutsy,

If you install a transparent back flap on that Dodger, you can leave the
Hatch open in the Cold weather also. With the Cabin heater on. Don't
need goggles or foulies. Just a Sweat Shirt and a Cup Of Coffee. INSTANT
for Scottie.

Ole Thom

The Dodger Defense
 

If you install a transparent back flap on that Dodger, you can leave the
Hatch open in the Cold weather also. With the Cabin heater on. Don't
need goggles or foulies. Just a Sweat Shirt and a Cup Of Coffee. INSTANT
for Scottie.

Actually, that was offered to me. It can connect at the zipper for the awning.
I just didn't imagine I'd need it, but I can always change my mind. I don't
drink coffee actually.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I see that Scotty "doesn't like the look of dodgers on small boats" and
Katy
found them a "drag."
Well, I've had nothing but positive responses on the dodger from 1st hand
observers, but there's the whole beauty/beholder thing. Sure the dodger
can get
in the way, but at the start and end of the season, it's great! You can
put it
away during the hotter months. Visibility is fine because the fellow who
made
it measured window height from the helm seat. Standing, I can see over it
just
fine as well. It's not a tall dodger. It made a cold sail pretty warm and
the
connecting white awning will make the whole cockpit cooler at anchor. For
years
people told me of the virtues, especially for spring and fall. Now I'm a
believer! Foulies and goggles? That's pretty uncomfortable, even with high
end
gear like mine (I own a 900.00 Henry Loyd suit as well as lighter stuff).
My
main complaint about it is that getting to the mainsheet forces me to bend
a
bit more.
Finally...I added the Dodger because it offers a great grip moving around
the
cockpit. The outer shelf is covered in a washable leatherett and is strong
enough to do pullups from. Did I mention that you can leave the
companionway
hatch open in the rain and not have a wet interior?
It's yet another choice, of course. Usually, people who have them love
them.
People who don't sure don't want to spend the cash on one, so they
"prefer"
Goggles. I think the price of a new dodger is crazy and I doubt I would
have
gotten one if I had to pay for it.

Note the padded grip along the edge

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/al2.jpg

RB
C&C 32 Alien
City Island

The Dodger Defense
 

Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

How nasty. She's a nice older woman who teaches at Columbia.
Troll alone, Jon. You're not a very nice person.
Bye.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

I've very nice. I was being kind. She's butt-ugly, but not as ugly
as MacBoy's boat. I'll give her that. Actually, I wouldn't do that
to anyone. You, of course, are a liar and a thief, so YOU WIN.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

How nasty. She's a nice older woman who teaches at Columbia.
Troll alone, Jon. You're not a very nice person.
Bye.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I've very nice. I was being kind. She's butt-ugly, but not as ugly
as MacBoy's boat. I'll give her that.

Jonathan,

I'm going to have to call you down on this one.

Suzy hasn't ever posted here, that I know of, so as far as I'm concerned
she's not "fair game". I understand the BS history, but let's not make it
personal on his mate that has nothing to do with this ng game.

After all, she is *pregnant* and she doesn't need the insults...take it from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange being large
with another human being in their body, and they don't need some arrogant
smart ass to make them feel bad about a natural body function....

LP (lay off Suzy, okay?...thanks!)



--
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www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

How nasty. She's a nice older woman who teaches at Columbia.
Troll alone, Jon. You're not a very nice person.
Bye.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

Thank yew Thom, thank yew very much.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Hey Nutsy,

If you install a transparent back flap on that Dodger, you can leave the
Hatch open in the Cold weather also. With the Cabin heater on. Don't
need goggles or foulies. Just a Sweat Shirt and a Cup Of Coffee. INSTANT
for Scottie.

Ole Thom

The Dodger Defense
 

Do you consider playing the market as work? no? Then I got my wifes' car
for free.

Scotty

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
So you did pay for the dodger????

No. I did tip the guy who designed and built it.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

Do you consider playing the market as work? no? Then I got my wifes' car
for free.

Playing the market is work. Playing with boats and gear is NOT work.
Sorry.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:f3qhc.31103$fq4.22225@lakeread05...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I've very nice. I was being kind. She's butt-ugly, but not as ugly
as MacBoy's boat. I'll give her that.

Jonathan,

I'm going to have to call you down on this one.

Suzy hasn't ever posted here, that I know of, so as far as I'm concerned
she's not "fair game". I understand the BS history, but let's not make it
personal on his mate that has nothing to do with this ng game.

After all, she is *pregnant* and she doesn't need the insults...take it from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange being large
with another human being in their body, and they don't need some arrogant
smart ass to make them feel bad about a natural body function....

LP (lay off Suzy, okay?...thanks!)


Well said LP.

Johnathan is not usually so rude of an asshole. That Kerry guy must be
getting him down.

Suzy has never posted here, and most likely never will.

Now if Jaxhole made such a rude remark that would be S.O.P.

Joe







--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

How nasty. She's a nice older woman who teaches at Columbia.
Troll alone, Jon. You're not a very nice person.
Bye.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.
Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.
The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect. I claimed that his boat chick is butt-ugly,
and I stand by that statement. He claimed that she's some
executive. I say bull.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:f3qhc.31103$fq4.22225@lakeread05...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I've very nice. I was being kind. She's butt-ugly, but not as ugly
as MacBoy's boat. I'll give her that.

Jonathan,

I'm going to have to call you down on this one.

Suzy hasn't ever posted here, that I know of, so as far as I'm concerned
she's not "fair game". I understand the BS history, but let's not make it
personal on his mate that has nothing to do with this ng game.

After all, she is *pregnant* and she doesn't need the insults...take it
from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange being large
with another human being in their body, and they don't need some arrogant
smart ass to make them feel bad about a natural body function....

LP (lay off Suzy, okay?...thanks!)



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Yet another ugly chick or is that Suzy with different hair color?

How nasty. She's a nice older woman who teaches at Columbia.
Troll alone, Jon. You're not a very nice person.
Bye.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

Did you ever get your figure back and what's it like being a single parent?

Cheers

Joe wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:f3qhc.31103$fq4.22225@lakeread05...



After all, she is *pregnant* and she doesn't need the insults...take it from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange being large
with another human being in their body, and they don't need some arrogant
smart ass to make them feel bad about a natural body function....

LP (lay off Suzy, okay?...thanks!)

The Dodger Defense
 

I say you been ineptly trolled.

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.
Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.
The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect. I claimed that his boat chick is butt-ugly,
and I stand by that statement. He claimed that she's some
executive. I say bull.

The Dodger Defense
 

Yeah, but I color easily.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Navigator" wrote in message
...
I say you been ineptly trolled.

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.
Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.
The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect. I claimed that his boat chick is butt-ugly,
and I stand by that statement. He claimed that she's some
executive. I say bull.

The Dodger Defense
 

"Navigator" wrote:

Did you ever get your figure back

Yes, both times. But why would you care? Hmmm..

and what's it like being a single parent?

Parenting is wonderful, rewarding and very challenging.

Why do you ask? Are you impotent? ;-p

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.

Too late! But I could have been much nicer about it...sorry.

Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.

But it is relevant to my opinion though, and that's what counts most.

The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect.

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to the
flonk groups.

May I suggest using creativity and wit as your guide in your future flaming
posts?

I claimed that his boat chick is butt-ugly,
and I stand by that statement. He claimed that she's some
executive. I say bull.

Like I could care less...

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

You know, I don't like being threatened, but even worse,
you're threatening the rest of the ng just because you don't
like what someone says. And, I like that even less. We've
already been invaded by those scumbags on the flonk ngs.
So what. They're no match for us.

The facts are that RB is a liar and a thief. The fact is that I
never put down Suz in my post.

Your opinion holds just as much weight as mine.. that
is no weight at all.

Obviously, you seem to care quite abit about what I have
to say. If you'd like to kf me, that would be just fine with
me.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:pw1ic.36492$fq4.32279@lakeread05...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.

Too late! But I could have been much nicer about it...sorry.

Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.

But it is relevant to my opinion though, and that's what counts most.

The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect.

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be put
in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to
the
flonk groups.

May I suggest using creativity and wit as your guide in your future
flaming
posts?

I claimed that his boat chick is butt-ugly,
and I stand by that statement. He claimed that she's some
executive. I say bull.

Like I could care less...

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

In article pw1ic.36492$fq4.32279@lakeread05, Lady Pilot
wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I don't think you're qualified to call me down as you put it.

Too late! But I could have been much nicer about it...sorry.

Suzy having never posted here is not relevant to my post.

But it is relevant to my opinion though, and that's what counts most.

The facts are that bob is a LIAR and a THIEF and everything
he says is suspect.

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to the
flonk groups.


bwahahahahahaha. Like we'd care, or even notice. Only result would be
you'd end up in a lotta k/f's too.

Threats aren't gonna cut it. Do it or don't, just don't talk about it.

PDW

The Dodger Defense
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote

...take it from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange

Didn't the doctor catch them?

The Dodger Defense
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:kr1ic.36491$fq4.21834@lakeread05...


Why do you ask? Are you impotent? ;-p

He isn't black!




Regards


Donal
--

The Dodger Defense
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:pw1ic.36492$fq4.32279@lakeread05...

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be put
in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to
the
flonk groups.

Dammit! I *really* thought that you were beginning to fit in.

Please tell us that you had a bit too much to drink.

Regards


Donal
--

The Dodger Defense
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Lady Pilot" wrote

...take it from
a woman that's had a couple of kids. They fell very strange

Didn't the doctor catch them?

Only one spelling flame!

LP (I'm quite disappointed!) heheheee

The Dodger Defense
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You know, I don't like being threatened, but even worse,
you're threatening the rest of the ng just because you don't
like what someone says. And, I like that even less. We've
already been invaded by those scumbags on the flonk ngs.
So what. They're no match for us.


ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I wasn't so tired, I'd do it in a nano second..

LP (they don't call me the "master baiter" for nothing!
rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Thanks for the laughs, Jonathan!

The Dodger Defense
 

"Peter Wiley" wrote:
Lady Pilot wrote:

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be
put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to
the
flonk groups.


bwahahahahahaha. Like we'd care, or even notice. Only result would be
you'd end up in a lotta k/f's too.

Like I haven't been there 20,000 posts ago...do a google, buddy!


Threats aren't gonna cut it. Do it or don't, just don't talk about it.

Oh my! I thought I had Jonathan's name written all over that bait!

I'm surprised with you, Peter! :-D

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

"Donal"wrote:

Dammit! I *really* thought that you were beginning to fit in.

I haven't had a doubt...have you? LOL!

Please tell us that you had a bit too much to drink.

Of course, Donal! Just look for the typos and misspellings!

LP (I love a.s.a!)

The Dodger Defense
 

"Peter Wiley" :
Lady Pilot wrote:

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be
put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting to
the
flonk groups.


bwahahahahahaha. Like we'd care, or even notice. Only result would be
you'd end up in a lotta k/f's too.

Threats aren't gonna cut it. Do it or don't, just don't talk about it.

Just for the enlightenment of a few of the regulars, I tried to get rid of
them by answering them and deleting asa.

It was all because of Jonathan turning people into their ISP's that they
keep coming back! Even some owners of the "intruders" NNTP servers showed
up here and just laughed! He was talked about on some of the admin
groups...but of course Peter Pan and Tinkerbell were talked about, too!
rofl

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

Do what? Never mind. I don't really care.

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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:Dnnic.12072$c%3.4296@okepread02...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You know, I don't like being threatened, but even worse,
you're threatening the rest of the ng just because you don't
like what someone says. And, I like that even less. We've
already been invaded by those scumbags on the flonk ngs.
So what. They're no match for us.


ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If I wasn't so tired, I'd do it in a nano second..

LP (they don't call me the "master baiter" for nothing!
rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Thanks for the laughs, Jonathan!

The Dodger Defense
 

You kinda remind me of a girl I knew in high school. First time
I heard the expression PT, and it had nothing to do with a boat.

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www.sailnow.com

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:Mqnic.12073$c%3.569@okepread02...

"Peter Wiley" wrote:
Lady Pilot wrote:

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be
put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting
to
the
flonk groups.


bwahahahahahaha. Like we'd care, or even notice. Only result would be
you'd end up in a lotta k/f's too.

Like I haven't been there 20,000 posts ago...do a google, buddy!


Threats aren't gonna cut it. Do it or don't, just don't talk about it.

Oh my! I thought I had Jonathan's name written all over that bait!

I'm surprised with you, Peter! :-D

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

Slut.

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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:7Fnic.12075$c%3.6053@okepread02...

"Peter Wiley" :
Lady Pilot wrote:

Flame on, brother. Just don't pick on pregnant chicks or you will be
put in
my bozo bin or I could just go off in a hissy and start cross-posting
to
the
flonk groups.


bwahahahahahaha. Like we'd care, or even notice. Only result would be
you'd end up in a lotta k/f's too.

Threats aren't gonna cut it. Do it or don't, just don't talk about it.

Just for the enlightenment of a few of the regulars, I tried to get rid of
them by answering them and deleting asa.

It was all because of Jonathan turning people into their ISP's that they
keep coming back! Even some owners of the "intruders" NNTP servers showed
up here and just laughed! He was talked about on some of the admin
groups...but of course Peter Pan and Tinkerbell were talked about, too!
rofl

LP

The Dodger Defense
 

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:00:03 -0500, "Lady Pilot"
wrote:
LP (they don't call me the "master baiter" for nothing!


Uhm....maybe you misunderstood? :-)


Cheers!

Remco

The Dodger Defense
 

You kinda remind me of a girl I knew in high school.

A girl he SAW. No way this clown has KNOWN any women.

RB

The Dodger Defense
 

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:05:50 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Do what? Never mind. I don't really care.


They were talking about girls.





This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

The Dodger Defense
 

Horass, no need to pretend. We know you don't
know anything about them.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:05:50 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Do what? Never mind. I don't really care.


They were talking about girls.





This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

The Dodger Defense
 

Clearly.

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www.sailnow.com

"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 01:00:03 -0500, "Lady Pilot"
wrote:
LP (they don't call me the "master baiter" for nothing!


Uhm....maybe you misunderstood? :-)


Cheers!

Remco