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"Jim Cate" wrote in message | I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his | cards on the table. My cards were made clear Jim.... there was a site posted here in reference to a downed Mac... I've sailed on them several times.... from the Power Sailor 19 to the Mac 26X. I've towed them out of harms way. I've tried in vain to get them sailing well..... they refuse to get up on step when under power. There were 4 of them in Yellowknife..... after 3 years there were none.... they had to be hauled south to sell. Remember when the salesman sold you an expensive vacuum cleaner that wouldn't suck.... well now someone has sold you something that will. ;-D Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard response to any post that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise. Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster. Cheers Marty |
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:53:09 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote: Capt. Mooron wrote: "Jim Cate" wrote in message | I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his | cards on the table. My cards were made clear Jim.... there was a site posted here in reference to a downed Mac... I've sailed on them several times.... from the Power Sailor 19 to the Mac 26X. I've towed them out of harms way. I've tried in vain to get them sailing well..... they refuse to get up on step when under power. There were 4 of them in Yellowknife..... after 3 years there were none.... they had to be hauled south to sell. Remember when the salesman sold you an expensive vacuum cleaner that wouldn't suck.... well now someone has sold you something that will. ;-D Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard response to any post that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise. Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster. Cheers Marty It is only a matter of time before Jim starts crowing about his home theatre system:) Birds of a feather, for sure. |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message | Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard response to any post | that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise. Well then Marty... he would be correct in his assumption. I do bash useless trash marketed beyond it's abilities to perform as stated. | Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster. You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit.... the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser. I never consider myself as hooked because I pick my "fights" and keep in mind the forum this contest is played in. I can as easily take either position and defend or attack..... that's the mark of a shark on the group. ;-D CM |
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You're the one who is lacking in credibility, not Mooron. You
are, however, incredibly stupid if that helps any. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... Jonathan Ganz wrote: In other words, you're an idiot. Most MacCrap owners figure out pretty quickly not to venture out. You'll get there MacBoy. Keep trying. I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his cards on the table. I'll extend the same challenge to you, Johnny. - DO YOU have any evidence or statistics to help poor Moroon out of this embarrassing situation? He is reduced to sputtering and growling and bragging about his long sailing career so that he can avoid the question, and he could use some help. (And in case you haven't figured it out yet, calling me an idiot isn't going to cut it.) Jim |
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It's pretty clear you are. You claim lots of things. So far, all we
see are lies. I'm certainly opinionated, but you win on the moron issue. The Macs are butt-ugly. None with any sense of taste or experience would go near them. Fact is a fact. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... Jonathan Ganz wrote: MacBoy, Actually, given your lack of sophistication, I'm not shocked that you would like they're looks. And, FYI, if you don't think I have a valid point about the Mac being butt-ugly, then why are you so worked up about it?? Actually, I'm not. But from prior experience in discussions such as this, I have learned that when opinionated morons like you don't get a response, even to asinine statements like your comments about the Mac26M appearance, they jump up and down and claim they have achieved a great victory. Unfortunately, that's the way liars like you play the game. Jim |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... I never consider myself as hooked because I pick my "fights" and keep in mind the forum this contest is played in. I can as easily take either position and defend or attack..... that's the mark of a shark on the group. ;-D Rubbish!!! You are a slave to popular opinion. If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion. However, on this occasion, you seem to have succumbed to popular opinion. I'm disgusted! I never thought of you as a wimp. Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message | Rubbish!!! Pray tell how you reached that far fetched conclusion? | You are a slave to popular opinion. So are you....... in your stalwart refusal to engage it. | If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy | his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion. Like one would enjoy stubbing one's foot on the stump of gullibility? | However, on this occasion, you seem to have succumbed to popular opinion. ....and you Donal may be said to have succumbed to unpopular opinion! | | I'm disgusted! I never thought of you as a wimp. You should re-evaluate your requirements .... or lower your expectations! ;-D CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote: Why would you put anyone as entertaining as Jim into a kill file?? That's a rhetorical question, right? g Nature abhors a vacuum and it is only natural that something would drift in to fill the massive hole left by Bob's departure. I think it kind of Bob to apprentice Jim to the task of Troll. I liked Capt. Neal's trolls the best. He could always come up with fresh material. Jim seems to cut and paste his replies, and doesn't listen to a word the experience sailor on this ng tells him. What's with the computer problems to date? Driver problems, server problems (home and ISP) etc, etc. I have brand new ones now and don't want to think about it anymore... LP (smooth sailing from here on out...) |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Donal" wrote in message | If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy | his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion. Donal, No one is saying Jim will not enjoy his purchace. Most just say he could of done one hell of a better job in judging what to buy and enjoy then he did. You can enjoy an old soapbox derby car made from okra crates and old lawn mower wheels, but why stick with that ol soapbox car when you can buy a Jaguar. You might enjoy the Jaguar more then the soapbox car if your smart enough to understand that a jaguar is a better set of wheels. I know why your defending him. It's because, like him you paid to much for a second rate production boat. You and Jim are birds of a feather. I wonder if jims mac is going to have loose floorboards? Joe Like one would enjoy stubbing one's foot on the stump of gullibility? | However, on this occasion, you seem to have succumbed to popular opinion. ...and you Donal may be said to have succumbed to unpopular opinion! | | I'm disgusted! I never thought of you as a wimp. You should re-evaluate your requirements .... or lower your expectations! ;-D CM |
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"Joe" wrote in message om... "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message | If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy | his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion. Donal, No one is saying Jim will not enjoy his purchace. Most just say he could of done one hell of a better job in judging what to buy and enjoy then he did. You can enjoy an old soapbox derby car made from okra crates and old lawn mower wheels, but why stick with that ol soapbox car when you can buy a Jaguar. You might enjoy the Jaguar more then the soapbox car if your smart enough to understand that a jaguar is a better set of wheels. I know why your defending him. It's because, like him you paid to much for a second rate production boat. You and Jim are birds of a feather. I wonder if jims mac is going to have loose floorboards? You were doing well until you got to the "loose floorboards" bit. My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. Jim won't regret his purchase because he is sensible enough to sail a boat within its limits. It won't perform in the way that he expects. That doesn't really matter. He will still get enormous pleasure from sailing. Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message | My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I | had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different | boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. That's a really good power boat. One of my best friends has one. Even after 5 years he can still get close to what he paid for it. it's a well balanced and well laid out vessel with great windows in the cabin to offer a fantastic view. However I fail to see what this has to do with Jim buying a POS...... CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message | My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I | had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different | boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. That's a really good power boat. [gulp] You neet to restrict your comments to sailing vessels. Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message | You neet to restrict your comments to sailing vessels. Oh no Donal... my nautical knowledge base is quite vast. The Bayliner 2455 Ciera Classic is a fine power boat. Solid lines and good performance. Sort of like the Benneteau of power boats... only better. CM |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:23:18 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap: "Donal" wrote in message | You neet to restrict your comments to sailing vessels. Oh no Donal... my nautical knowledge base is quite vast. The Bayliner 2455 Ciera Classic is a fine power boat. Solid lines and good performance. Sort of like the Benneteau of power boats... only better. Kinda like the redneck pickup truck of fishing boats, only worse. My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the ultimate power in the universe." |
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"Horvath" wrote in message ... | On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 23:23:18 -0300, "Capt. Mooron" | wrote this crap: | | | "Donal" wrote in message | | | You neet to restrict your comments to sailing vessels. | | Oh no Donal... my nautical knowledge base is quite vast. The Bayliner 2455 | Ciera Classic is a fine power boat. Solid lines and good performance. Sort | of like the Benneteau of power boats... only better. | | | Kinda like the redneck pickup truck of fishing boats, only worse. Nope.... that would be the Bayliner Trophy 20. CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message | You neet to restrict your comments to sailing vessels. Oh no Donal... my nautical knowledge base is quite vast. The Bayliner 2455 Ciera Classic is a fine power boat. Solid lines and good performance. Sort of like the Benneteau of power boats... only better. 4/10. "Must try harder"!!!!! Regards Donal -- |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:30:21 +0100, "Donal"
wrote: My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. Jim won't regret his purchase because he is sensible enough to sail a boat within its limits. It won't perform in the way that he expects. That doesn't really matter. He will still get enormous pleasure from sailing. Exactly, the only thing what matters is what Jim thinks about his boat. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that he justifies his purchase with wrong assumptions in the eyes of most people (the vocal ones, that is) in this newsgroup, and those assumptions are attacked IMO. I do think it's a pitty that those discussions end in a name calling contest, though..... Cheers! Remco |
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"Remco Moedt" wrote in message | I do think it's a pitty that those | discussions end in a name calling contest, though..... Now Now Now...... not all dissenters and beraters were reduced to name calling. Yet Donal specifically took issue with me despite my civil but persistent replies. CM |
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Capt. Mooron wrote:
You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit.... the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser. Never could see the point in such practices, seems a might juvenile. Cheers Marty |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:30:21 +0100, "Donal" wrote: My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. Jim won't regret his purchase because he is sensible enough to sail a boat within its limits. It won't perform in the way that he expects. That doesn't really matter. He will still get enormous pleasure from sailing. Exactly, the only thing what matters is what Jim thinks about his boat. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that he justifies his purchase with wrong assumptions in the eyes of most people (the vocal ones, that is) in this newsgroup, and those assumptions are attacked IMO. I do think it's a pitty that those discussions end in a name calling contest, though..... Isn't anybody concerned about the welfare of Jims grandchildren? Jim may do as he pleases, but it would be preferable if he didn't kill some of his progeny in the process. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
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Why would that be better??
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Remco Moedt wrote: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 00:30:21 +0100, "Donal" wrote: My empathy for Jim lies in the fact that I used to own a Bayliner 2455. I had 10 great years on it. With hindsight, I would have chosen a different boat. However, I don't regret my choice for a second. Jim won't regret his purchase because he is sensible enough to sail a boat within its limits. It won't perform in the way that he expects. That doesn't really matter. He will still get enormous pleasure from sailing. Exactly, the only thing what matters is what Jim thinks about his boat. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that he justifies his purchase with wrong assumptions in the eyes of most people (the vocal ones, that is) in this newsgroup, and those assumptions are attacked IMO. I do think it's a pitty that those discussions end in a name calling contest, though..... Isn't anybody concerned about the welfare of Jims grandchildren? Jim may do as he pleases, but it would be preferable if he didn't kill some of his progeny in the process. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... | Capt. Mooron wrote: | | You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is | able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause | debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count | the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit.... | the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser. | | | Never could see the point in such practices, seems a might juvenile. This is a playground for adults Marty...... point / counterpoint is one of the games. I'm here for the counterpoint..... ;-) Let's face it..... after years being here.... almost every subject has been discussed. There is still excellent input form the various disciplines of sail. Those I read and learn from. The trolls I play with. CM |
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Capt. Mooron wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... | Capt. Mooron wrote: | | You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is | able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause | debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count | the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit.... | the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser. | | | Never could see the point in such practices, seems a might juvenile. This is a playground for adults Marty...... point / counterpoint is one of the games. I'm here for the counterpoint..... ;-) Point counterpoint? Rot, juvenile schoolboy taunts with homophobic overtones for the most part. Let's face it..... after years being here.... almost every subject has been discussed. There is still excellent input form the various disciplines of sail. Those I read and learn from. The trolls I play with. If I want fiction I'll turn to something written by a professional, I've just been handed a John Grisham that I haven't read. Cheers Marty CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Now Now Now...... not all dissenters and beraters were reduced to name calling. Yet Donal specifically took issue with me despite my civil but persistent replies. Did I hurt your feelings? Regards Donal -- |
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"Remco Moedt" wrote in message ... Exactly, the only thing what matters is what Jim thinks about his boat. But I don't think that's the point. The point is that he justifies his purchase with wrong assumptions I once purchased a boat with wrong assumptions. I had a very steep learning curve on the first few outings. I very quickly learned that the boat would not do the things that I had planned before I took delivery. However, I kept the boat for 10 years and I had a great time in her. I agree that Jim's purchase is based on inaccurate assumptions. I also think that he will learn the capabilities of his new boat very quickly. So he won't take it out to sea, but he will still have a great time in it. Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message | Did I hurt your feelings? No..... I understood immediately it was just your way of garnering attention you hadn't earned as yet. Empathy Central....that's me. ;-) CM |
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"Donal" wrote in message | I agree that Jim's purchase is based on inaccurate assumptions. I also | think that he will learn the capabilities of his new boat very quickly. So | he won't take it out to sea, but he will still have a great time in it. Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M CM |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message | Point counterpoint? Rot, juvenile schoolboy taunts with homophobic overtones for the most part. Puhlee-e-e-e-e-z-z-z-z.... you've been in there swingin' with the rest of us on many occasions. | If I want fiction I'll turn to something written by a professional, I've just been handed a John Grisham that I haven't read. Yes Marty.... sure... that's how we all picture you... next to your bookshelf, in a smoking jacket, embroidered with the mensa logo..... Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa CM |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
"Donal" wrote in message Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M Bob makes a lot of claims, non of which are even remotely based on the truth. Jax |
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From: (JAXAshby) Date: 04/27/2004 15:52 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M Bob makes a lot of claims, non of which are even remotely based on the truth. Jax Now, there's the "pot calling the kettle, black" ....crawling out from under the ole rock I see, sir, "runstheenginesatanchor" jax....... Shen |
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"Shen44" wrote in message ... Now, there's the "pot calling the kettle, black" ....crawling out from under the ole rock I see, sir, "runstheenginesatanchor" jax....... Learn to use your Radar correctly! That wasn't Jax. Regards Donal -- |
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"Shen44" wrote in message ... bject: STOP the MADNESS From: (JAXAshby) Date: 04/27/2004 15:52 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M Bob makes a lot of claims, non of which are even remotely based on the truth. Jax Now, there's the "pot calling the kettle, black" ....crawling out from under the ole rock I see, sir, "runstheenginesatanchor" jax....... Shen |
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Check the headers dork.
RB "Shen44" wrote in message ... bject: STOP the MADNESS From: (JAXAshby) Date: 04/27/2004 15:52 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... "Donal" wrote in message Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M Bob makes a lot of claims, non of which are even remotely based on the truth. Jax Now, there's the "pot calling the kettle, black" ....crawling out from under the ole rock I see, sir, "runstheenginesatanchor" jax....... Shen |
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Now Bob.... that would spoil the confusion.....
CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message om... | Check the headers dork. | | RB | | | | "Shen44" wrote in message ... | bject: STOP the MADNESS | From: (JAXAshby) | Date: 04/27/2004 15:52 Pacific Standard Time | Message-id: | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | "Donal" wrote in message | | Do try to keep up Donal.... Bob is now claiming to be "Jim Cate" and I | doubt he is entertaining a Mac26M | | | Bob makes a lot of claims, non of which are even remotely based on the truth. | | Jax | | | | Now, there's the "pot calling the kettle, black" ....crawling out from under | the ole rock I see, sir, "runstheenginesatanchor" jax....... | | Shen |
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Confused? Sober up rummy. Ya lush.
Boo! Jax "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Now Bob.... that would spoil the confusion..... CM |
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I drank myself sober and had a blunt to temper the shock..... yet I still
feel no compulsion to look at headers for verification. Confused? No! Apathetic... Maybe! Lush... not possible! CM "JAXAshby" wrote in message om... | Confused? Sober up rummy. Ya lush. | | Boo! | | Jax | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... | Now Bob.... that would spoil the confusion..... | | CM |
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From: (Bobsprit) Date: 04/27/2004 16:46 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Check the headers dork. RB G Sorry ....gett'n tough to tell which one of you peabrained nitwits is which, without a program..... Shen |
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In article , Shen44
wrote: Subject: STOP the MADNESS From: (Bobsprit) Date: 04/27/2004 16:46 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Check the headers dork. RB G Sorry ....gett'n tough to tell which one of you peabrained nitwits is which, without a program..... A difference that makes no difference *is* no difference IMO - esp in ref to the above.... PDW |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote Confused? No! Apathetic... Maybe! Lush... not possible! A pathetic what? |
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Here's a helpfull tip; the REAL Bobsprit posts have a bull**** smell to
them. Scotty "Shen44" wrote in message ... Subject: STOP the MADNESS From: (Bobsprit) Date: 04/27/2004 16:46 Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Check the headers dork. RB G Sorry ....gett'n tough to tell which one of you peabrained nitwits is which, without a program..... Shen |
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