"Donal" wrote in message ...
"N1EE" wrote in message
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I hope he didn't pass on his genes.

This is not your typical California sailor.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/stories.html?story=2

Guernsey was STUPID and INEPT when he Redondo
Beach, Calif., last Oct. 8 without a life raft,
without a survival suit, without an EPIRB,
without a single sideband radio, without a
satellite phone. His only communications gear
was a VHF radio.

Oh for God's sake!


He knew the risks. He didn't take an EPIRB because he didn't want to place
rescuers' lives at risk.

I salute the man. He died doing what he loved - sailing.


He wasn't stupid, or inept. He made his choices. If I die at sea, I don't
want anybody to complain about the "system".


Regards


Donal
--

I agree Donal, Looks like he's done many other long distance solo
trips.
Sometime people that live on the edge fall over. And if your not
living on the edge then your just taking up space.

I wouldent give him up for dead just yet. Many have lived over 90 day
adrift in a raft, perhaps he's been dismasted and is still adrift.

Joe

I disagree.

If you think carrying all that stuff is going to help you, remember the
Canadian Gerry Roufs. He had a purpose designed 60' boat with that much
stuff and more on board (read the required equipment list for Vendee
Globe). He even had a full time satellite data link, and all anyone can
tell you is the Lat/Long when it stopped reporting.

Frank Gursey was obviously a seriously capable sailor (given just the
resume in the Soundings article), and he was living his dream.

I happen to have quite a few friends and acquaintances that have gone
missing on the water, some one or two at a time and then 29 at once with
a 729 steel hull for a coffin. They didn’t get a call out either. I
never heard anyone call Ernie McSorley stupid.

Do I feel sorry for Mary Gursey? Yes, I do. Mostly because it takes up
so much of your life energy to give up the hope that he will make port.
As for Frank, I envy him.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Marine and
Perpetual (I can only hope) Sailor


N1EE wrote:
I hope he didn't pass on his genes.

This is not your typical California sailor.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/stories.html?story=2

Guernsey was STUPID and INEPT when he Redondo
Beach, Calif., last Oct. 8 without a life raft,
without a survival suit, without an EPIRB,
without a single sideband radio, without a
satellite phone. His only communications gear
was a VHF radio.

I suspect he had too mucy fun in the 1970's.
I'm sure he was well supplied with drugs since
he left his brain in California.

I'd like to think he was not this stupid, and
that he just lied to his wife and is living
in the South Pacific with a new wife.

Bart

Joe, whatever happened to that guy down your way, that faked his death on a
power boat?

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message
...
"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I hope he didn't pass on his genes.

This is not your typical California sailor.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/stories.html?story=2

Guernsey was STUPID and INEPT when he Redondo
Beach, Calif., last Oct. 8 without a life raft,
without a survival suit, without an EPIRB,
without a single sideband radio, without a
satellite phone. His only communications gear
was a VHF radio.

Oh for God's sake!


He knew the risks. He didn't take an EPIRB because he didn't want to
place
rescuers' lives at risk.

I salute the man. He died doing what he loved - sailing.


He wasn't stupid, or inept. He made his choices. If I die at sea, I
don't
want anybody to complain about the "system".


Regards


Donal
--

I agree Donal, Looks like he's done many other long distance solo
trips.
Sometime people that live on the edge fall over. And if your not
living on the edge then your just taking up space.

I wouldent give him up for dead just yet. Many have lived over 90 day
adrift in a raft, perhaps he's been dismasted and is still adrift.

Joe

Often thought about it myself. Will an insurance co. pay off if no body is
found? How long do they wait?
If you did this and continued sailing (on another boat) would foreign
countries report you, after you checked in?

SV


"N1EE" wrote in message
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Maybe he's smarter than we think and they are
getting ready to collect on a big insurance
policy--enough to pay for a villa in Mexico.

A friend of mine has a business building fire
trucks. His secretary of many years decided
to retire and announced she was leaving the
company, gave 30 days notice, and retiring to
Mexico.

He was a little concerned. He told her to leave
a few weeks earlier, did an audit and found she
stole around $300,000 from the company over five
years, by making a big deposit to a bank for
subsequent disbursement to for payroll.

She is now in jail, but my friend never recovered
any of the money. The woman's "boyfriend
disappeared and is presumed living in Mexico in
the villa they were building.


"Scott Vernon" wrote

No, quite the opposite. I would think it would be harder on her waiting
so
long for some word.

Maybe I'm too sensitive.
SV

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scotty said:
yeah, me too, except for what he put his wife through.

If she didn't want to go, she could have stayed home. And wouldn't
you
think she'd know what was and was not on the boat? Your statement
makes
it
seem as if she was lashed to the mast and screaming to get off the
boat....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"Scott Vernon" wrote

Often thought about it myself. Will an insurance co. pay off if no body is
found? How long do they wait?
If you did this and continued sailing (on another boat) would foreign
countries report you, after you checked in?

SV

He'll be using your stolen identity Scotty.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
Joe, whatever happened to that guy down your way, that faked his death on a
power boat?


They found him up in N Texas, Had a bunch of steriods with him ect...
Last I heard his bail was 200K and no one would post it for him, guess
his girlfriends took off with all the money. Since his crime
paperwork, ie the crane company that he leased the same crane to 3 or
4 companies at the same time was based there they extridited him,
because it was a more serious crime.

He's gonna spend 10+ years in the big house.

What an Idiot, 12 million in his pocket and he runs to N Texas and
starts bragging around the town about what he did. Someone just
dropped a dime on him.

So many of the locals here spent mucho money and several days
searching for his body that Im sure he will never come back here. Plus
several investors around this area want to take thier losses out of
his hide. One guy I meet lost his 3 million dollar lakefront house.
The local cop said when he was evicted by the bank he took everything
in the house that was not seriously bolted down, cealing fans,
lightbulbs ect. Thats gotta suck to go from 5K+SQ foot waterfront
house with infinty pool and waterfall steps to having to steal
lightbulbs for the apartment your going to move into.

These cigar boat guys are a hoot, most of the big scarabs and
fountains here change hands every year. First thing they buy when they
make a few million and the first thing to go when they find out that
the first few million was just a fluke, or when the inhertiance runs
out faster than they thought possiable.

We had another criminal get locked up here. He was embezling money
from his company to the ture of 400K puls before they caught on. He
was living on his bosses yacht here in the marina. The boss/owner came
down here with the cops and a tow truck for the new viper car the guy
bought. He got 5 years.

No telling whats going to happen this summer. Always something.

Remember the lady that ran her husband over and over in the Hilton
parking lot?
That was just down the street, Terry and I were sailing the dink when
it just happened and we saw all the police lights and sailed up to see
what happened.


Joe



The FBI is still trying to find out who helped him stage his boat
wreck. If they find out then they will be cell buddies. He's the type
that Im sure will spill the beans.

Joe


Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message
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"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I hope he didn't pass on his genes.

This is not your typical California sailor.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/stories.html?story=2

Guernsey was STUPID and INEPT when he Redondo
Beach, Calif., last Oct. 8 without a life raft,
without a survival suit, without an EPIRB,
without a single sideband radio, without a
satellite phone. His only communications gear
was a VHF radio.

Oh for God's sake!


He knew the risks. He didn't take an EPIRB because he didn't want to
place
rescuers' lives at risk.

I salute the man. He died doing what he loved - sailing.


He wasn't stupid, or inept. He made his choices. If I die at sea, I
don't
want anybody to complain about the "system".


Regards


Donal
--

I agree Donal, Looks like he's done many other long distance solo
trips.
Sometime people that live on the edge fall over. And if your not
living on the edge then your just taking up space.

I wouldent give him up for dead just yet. Many have lived over 90 day
adrift in a raft, perhaps he's been dismasted and is still adrift.

Joe

Sheesh!, with 12 million in my pocket, I would have retired to one of the
islands and kept my mouth shut, hire a young native girl to do my talking.
)

Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Joe, whatever happened to that guy down your way, that faked his death
on a
power boat?


They found him up in N Texas, Had a bunch of steriods with him ect...
Last I heard his bail was 200K and no one would post it for him, guess
his girlfriends took off with all the money. Since his crime
paperwork, ie the crane company that he leased the same crane to 3 or
4 companies at the same time was based there they extridited him,
because it was a more serious crime.

He's gonna spend 10+ years in the big house.

What an Idiot, 12 million in his pocket and he runs to N Texas and
starts bragging around the town about what he did. Someone just
dropped a dime on him.

So many of the locals here spent mucho money and several days
searching for his body that Im sure he will never come back here. Plus
several investors around this area want to take thier losses out of
his hide. One guy I meet lost his 3 million dollar lakefront house.
The local cop said when he was evicted by the bank he took everything
in the house that was not seriously bolted down, cealing fans,
lightbulbs ect. Thats gotta suck to go from 5K+SQ foot waterfront
house with infinty pool and waterfall steps to having to steal
lightbulbs for the apartment your going to move into.

These cigar boat guys are a hoot, most of the big scarabs and
fountains here change hands every year. First thing they buy when they
make a few million and the first thing to go when they find out that
the first few million was just a fluke, or when the inhertiance runs
out faster than they thought possiable.

We had another criminal get locked up here. He was embezling money
from his company to the ture of 400K puls before they caught on. He
was living on his bosses yacht here in the marina. The boss/owner came
down here with the cops and a tow truck for the new viper car the guy
bought. He got 5 years.

No telling whats going to happen this summer. Always something.

Remember the lady that ran her husband over and over in the Hilton
parking lot?
That was just down the street, Terry and I were sailing the dink when
it just happened and we saw all the police lights and sailed up to see
what happened.


Joe



The FBI is still trying to find out who helped him stage his boat
wreck. If they find out then they will be cell buddies. He's the type
that Im sure will spill the beans.

Joe


Scotty


"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message
...
"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I hope he didn't pass on his genes.

This is not your typical California sailor.

http://www.soundingsonline.com/stories.html?story=2

Guernsey was STUPID and INEPT when he Redondo
Beach, Calif., last Oct. 8 without a life raft,
without a survival suit, without an EPIRB,
without a single sideband radio, without a
satellite phone. His only communications gear
was a VHF radio.

Oh for God's sake!


He knew the risks. He didn't take an EPIRB because he didn't want
to
place
rescuers' lives at risk.

I salute the man. He died doing what he loved - sailing.


He wasn't stupid, or inept. He made his choices. If I die at sea,
I
don't
want anybody to complain about the "system".


Regards


Donal
--

I agree Donal, Looks like he's done many other long distance solo
trips.
Sometime people that live on the edge fall over. And if your not
living on the edge then your just taking up space.

I wouldent give him up for dead just yet. Many have lived over 90 day
adrift in a raft, perhaps he's been dismasted and is still adrift.

Joe