The Mac and Speed
 

Forget 18 knots, at least fully loaded with the ballast tank full, that is. But
it still does really well with a 50 hp motor. And it really sails well, too.
And for that reason, I say get a 9 hp motor only. The boat is a better sailing
vessel than it is a speed boat and it should be appreciated for that.

It's funny, my wife and I now sail a dinghy just about every weekend. We never
got a motor for it, because that would have only ruined it. Now that we've
learned to sail well (which we really didn't know how to do with our Mac), we
have no need for a motor.

I make this recommendation: if you've already ordered the boat with the 50 hp
motor, get it and use it as you like, but don't consider it a bad move to
remove it and switch to a 9 hp.

The Veridican

The Mac and Speed
 

Holy smokes!

To the batpoles Robin!


RB

"Veridican" wrote in message
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Forget 18 knots, at least fully loaded with the ballast tank full, that
is. But
it still does really well with a 50 hp motor. And it really sails well,
too.
And for that reason, I say get a 9 hp motor only. The boat is a better
sailing
vessel than it is a speed boat and it should be appreciated for that.

It's funny, my wife and I now sail a dinghy just about every weekend. We
never
got a motor for it, because that would have only ruined it. Now that we've
learned to sail well (which we really didn't know how to do with our Mac),
we
have no need for a motor.

I make this recommendation: if you've already ordered the boat with the 50
hp
motor, get it and use it as you like, but don't consider it a bad move to
remove it and switch to a 9 hp.

The Veridican

The Mac and Speed
 

Veridican wrote:

Forget 18 knots, at least fully loaded with the ballast tank full, that is. But
it still does really well with a 50 hp motor. And it really sails well, too.
And for that reason, I say get a 9 hp motor only. The boat is a better sailing
vessel than it is a speed boat and it should be appreciated for that.

It's funny, my wife and I now sail a dinghy just about every weekend. We never
got a motor for it, because that would have only ruined it. Now that we've
learned to sail well (which we really didn't know how to do with our Mac), we
have no need for a motor.

I make this recommendation: if you've already ordered the boat with the 50 hp
motor, get it and use it as you like, but don't consider it a bad move to
remove it and switch to a 9 hp.

The Veridican

Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim

The Mac and Speed
 

the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim

put a 75 hp engine on the back, a bunch of lead in the bow and it still won't
go 22 mph.

The Mac and Speed
 

Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim

That's what we had (the Merc 50 hp two stroke). But the boat is balanced with
or without it, and you're right 200 lbs on a 3000 pound boat just doesn't
matter. I think you'll find the Mac sails pretty good. It's got a more narrow
beam than some boats and this makes it faster, in my opinion.

People on here don't like the Mac because they have to defend their own choice
of boat. They like to talk about storms and heavy seas. Yesterday the wind was
blowing about 30 mph and the sea was all white caps and dust and debrie was
blowing everywhere. I didn't like driving in my car, much less would I have
liked sailing. I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it. A Mac can handle it. It's not like they're going to sink. But no
boats go out when the wind is like that. That's just the reality of the
situation.

If you're in your Mac sailing the FL keys and 40 knot winds start to kick up;
You're going to do what everyone else does: reef, and head for a bay or cove
until it passes. Or you're going to ride it out; either way, you're boat's
going to be just fine.

Do they really think that in wind and waves, the Mac is going to splinter into
fiberglass pieces?

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long, it can
only cary so much food an water.



The Veridican

The Mac and Speed
 

"Jim Cate" wrote

I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.


The Mac credo.

The Mac and Speed
 

"Veridican" wrote

I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig
my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it.

Pussy!

The Mac and Speed
 

"Veridican" wrote

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that
trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if
it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long,
it can
only cary so much food an water.


Hence the need for the USCG.

The Mac and Speed
 

Veridican wrote:

Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim


That's what we had (the Merc 50 hp two stroke). But the boat is balanced with
or without it, and you're right 200 lbs on a 3000 pound boat just doesn't
matter.


You must be kidding. I've got a boat that's a similar length and weighs around
5000 lb., putting 200 lb. on the stern sure a **** makes a big difference. If you
can't feel and see it on a 3000 lb boat you must blind, deaf, and numb from the neck
down, (from the neck up I'll leave for others to speculate about).

Cheers
Marty

The Mac and Speed
 

I think you're right. Go for the 50hp. You'll have a higher
resale value. You can sell it more easily to anyone who
doesn't have a clue about sailing.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Veridican wrote:

Forget 18 knots, at least fully loaded with the ballast tank full, that
is. But
it still does really well with a 50 hp motor. And it really sails well,
too.
And for that reason, I say get a 9 hp motor only. The boat is a better
sailing
vessel than it is a speed boat and it should be appreciated for that.

It's funny, my wife and I now sail a dinghy just about every weekend. We
never
got a motor for it, because that would have only ruined it. Now that
we've
learned to sail well (which we really didn't know how to do with our
Mac), we
have no need for a motor.

I make this recommendation: if you've already ordered the boat with the
50 hp
motor, get it and use it as you like, but don't consider it a bad move
to
remove it and switch to a 9 hp.

The Veridican

Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim