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John Banana April 15th 04 12:29 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
(Veridican) wrote in message

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long, it
can only cary so much food an water.


Noone has sailed round the world in a Mac 26, because it is an
inappropriate boat for anything other than sheltered coastal water,
nothing to do with its size. People have sailed round the world in
much smaller boats than a Mac 26. For example...

1972-1980 18' "Shrimpy" sailed by Shane Acton
Stock Caprice class sloop

Jim Cate April 15th 04 01:27 PM

The Mac and Speed
 


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim


Jonathan Ganz April 15th 04 06:07 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
Sure thing... You're AN IDIOT. Go away MacBoy.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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bs deleted as usual




Scott Vernon April 15th 04 10:13 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
Keep trying.

wrote


I tried to look at the Mac26m from your perspective, but I was unable
to get my head that far up my ass.

BB



Donal April 15th 04 10:42 PM

The Mac and Speed
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:27:12 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:


I tried to look at the Mac26m from your perspective, but I was unable
to get my head that far down my ass.


Lessons for Scotty - Part 1.



Regards


Donal
--




JAXAshby April 15th 04 11:56 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim










Jim Cate April 16th 04 02:41 AM

The Mac and Speed
 


JAXAshby wrote:

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.



Does this mean that if passengers and helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds, you have to bring an additional 1,000 pounds onboard and
store it in the bow? No? Then why do you have add 200# on the "other
end" to balance the motor? What's the difference between a little
weight, added by the motor, and lots more weight added by the crew? The
fact is that the boat is balanced for typical loads, which include the
motor.

Of course, it's a small boat, and as in any small boat, if you have an
very heavy load in the aft end of the boat, you would probably sail
better if you distributed the load somewhat.

Jim


Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim












Jonathan Ganz April 16th 04 03:08 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
I think Scotty is willing to help out.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 07:27:12 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim



I tried to look at the Mac26m from your perspective, but I was unable
to get my head that far up my ass.

BB




Jonathan Ganz April 16th 04 03:09 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
Well, at least you don't have to worry about the weight of your
brain.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


JAXAshby wrote:

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the

other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.



Does this mean that if passengers and helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds, you have to bring an additional 1,000 pounds onboard and
store it in the bow? No? Then why do you have add 200# on the "other
end" to balance the motor? What's the difference between a little
weight, added by the motor, and lots more weight added by the crew? The
fact is that the boat is balanced for typical loads, which include the
motor.

Of course, it's a small boat, and as in any small boat, if you have an
very heavy load in the aft end of the boat, you would probably sail
better if you distributed the load somewhat.

Jim


Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim














Scott Vernon April 16th 04 03:53 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
you sailing with boob****?

"Jim Cate" wrote


Does this mean that if helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds,




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