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Jonathan Ganz April 14th 04 06:46 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.

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"Veridican" wrote in message
...
Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim

That's what we had (the Merc 50 hp two stroke). But the boat is balanced

with
or without it, and you're right 200 lbs on a 3000 pound boat just doesn't
matter. I think you'll find the Mac sails pretty good. It's got a more

narrow
beam than some boats and this makes it faster, in my opinion.

People on here don't like the Mac because they have to defend their own

choice
of boat. They like to talk about storms and heavy seas. Yesterday the wind

was
blowing about 30 mph and the sea was all white caps and dust and debrie

was
blowing everywhere. I didn't like driving in my car, much less would I

have
liked sailing. I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's

not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig

my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it. A Mac can handle it. It's not like they're going to sink. But

no
boats go out when the wind is like that. That's just the reality of the
situation.

If you're in your Mac sailing the FL keys and 40 knot winds start to kick

up;
You're going to do what everyone else does: reef, and head for a bay or

cove
until it passes. Or you're going to ride it out; either way, you're boat's
going to be just fine.

Do they really think that in wind and waves, the Mac is going to splinter

into
fiberglass pieces?

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that

trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if

it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long,

it can
only cary so much food an water.



The Veridican




Jonathan Ganz April 14th 04 06:47 PM

The Mac and Speed
 
Must have been living on the walls to quote an author...

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wrote in message
...
On 14 Apr 2004 11:38:14 GMT, (Veridican) wrote:
If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The

boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that

trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if

it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long,

it can
only cary so much food an water.



A friend of mine recently circumnavigated in a 27 foot boat. You can
be sure, however, that no one would ever select ANY Macgregor for a
trip like that, and especially not one of the X/M ****boxes.

http://www.otternews.com/

BB




JAXAshby April 15th 04 12:15 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
200 lbs on a 3000 pound boat just doesn't
matter.


what a stupid effing thing to say.

JAXAshby April 15th 04 12:16 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
small craft advisories mean wind **might** get to 16 knots. he's a pussy
alright.

"Veridican" wrote

I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig

my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it.


Pussy!










JAXAshby April 15th 04 12:18 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
you, a supposedly adult man, can't do it on a mac 26, but an eighteen year old
girl did it around the world on a Contessa 26.

but the Contessa is a sailboat, right?

"Veridican" wrote

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that

trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if

it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long,

it can
only cary so much food an water.



Hence the need for the USCG.











Jeff Morris April 15th 04 01:01 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
Wrong as usual, jaxie. The criteria for Small Craft Warnings varies by
district, but is usually either 18 to 33 knots or 20 to 33 knots likely in the
next 12 hours, and/or moderate chop (4 feet for the Chesapeake).

But I agree, he's a pussy. Of course, since he has a "small craft" it probably
just as well.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
small craft advisories mean wind **might** get to 16 knots. he's a pussy
alright.

"Veridican" wrote

I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig

my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it.


Pussy!












JAXAshby April 15th 04 01:27 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
around here, it is 16+ knots of wind sometime during the day, forecasted.
Reality is that probably half the days are small craft warnings.



Wrong as usual, jaxie. The criteria for Small Craft Warnings varies by
district, but is usually either 18 to 33 knots or 20 to 33 knots likely in
the
next 12 hours, and/or moderate chop (4 feet for the Chesapeake).

But I agree, he's a pussy. Of course, since he has a "small craft" it
probably
just as well.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
small craft advisories mean wind **might** get to 16 knots. he's a pussy
alright.

"Veridican" wrote

I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to

rig
my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could

have
handled it.

Pussy!




















Jim Cate April 15th 04 02:19 AM

The Mac and Speed
 


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.


Not if the boat is built to handle a 300 pound motor.

Jim



Jonathan Ganz April 15th 04 06:50 AM

The Mac and Speed
 
Whatever you say you stupid ninny.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.


Not if the boat is built to handle a 300 pound motor.

Jim





JAXAshby April 15th 04 12:16 PM

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weight, balance and lever arms, d00d.

200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.


Not if the boat is built to handle a 300 pound motor.

Jim












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