200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.

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"Veridican" wrote in message
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Becuase of the weight issue, I'm getting a 50 hp two-stroke engine that
is relatively lightweight (about 200 pounds). I don't think this will
be that significant a factor in its sailing characteristics. (Of course,
some on this ng think that the Mac doesn't sail under any conditions.
-If that's the case, I might as well put on the larger motor and enjoy
motoring around.)

Jim

That's what we had (the Merc 50 hp two stroke). But the boat is balanced
with
or without it, and you're right 200 lbs on a 3000 pound boat just doesn't
matter. I think you'll find the Mac sails pretty good. It's got a more
narrow
beam than some boats and this makes it faster, in my opinion.

People on here don't like the Mac because they have to defend their own
choice
of boat. They like to talk about storms and heavy seas. Yesterday the wind
was
blowing about 30 mph and the sea was all white caps and dust and debrie
was
blowing everywhere. I didn't like driving in my car, much less would I
have
liked sailing. I don't sail when there are small craft advisories. It's
not
that I'm afraid to (well, maybe I am); it's more that I don't want to rig
my
boat in that wind and try to get it away from the dock. My boat could have
handled it. A Mac can handle it. It's not like they're going to sink. But
no
boats go out when the wind is like that. That's just the reality of the
situation.

If you're in your Mac sailing the FL keys and 40 knot winds start to kick
up;
You're going to do what everyone else does: reef, and head for a bay or
cove
until it passes. Or you're going to ride it out; either way, you're boat's
going to be just fine.

Do they really think that in wind and waves, the Mac is going to splinter
into
fiberglass pieces?

If you wanted to sail the boat around the world, you could do it. The boat
would be just fine. But it's 26 feet. You can't sail from the Galapagose
Islands to Tahiti, because you can't carry enough food or water for that
trip.
The Mac is a costal cruiser not because of it's "strength" but because if
it's
size. I don't care what kind of boat a person has--if it's 26 feet long,
it can
only cary so much food an water.



The Veridican

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.

Not if the boat is built to handle a 300 pound motor.

Jim

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

200 lbs on a 3000 lbs boat does matter. Quite a bit in fact.

Not if the boat is built to handle a 300 pound motor.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim

Sure thing... You're AN IDIOT. Go away MacBoy.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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bs deleted as usual

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.

Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim

JAXAshby wrote:

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.


Does this mean that if passengers and helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds, you have to bring an additional 1,000 pounds onboard and
store it in the bow? No? Then why do you have add 200# on the "other
end" to balance the motor? What's the difference between a little
weight, added by the motor, and lots more weight added by the crew? The
fact is that the boat is balanced for typical loads, which include the
motor.

Of course, it's a small boat, and as in any small boat, if you have an
very heavy load in the aft end of the boat, you would probably sail
better if you distributed the load somewhat.

Jim


Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim

Well, at least you don't have to worry about the weight of your
brain.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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JAXAshby wrote:

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the
other end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.


Does this mean that if passengers and helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds, you have to bring an additional 1,000 pounds onboard and
store it in the bow? No? Then why do you have add 200# on the "other
end" to balance the motor? What's the difference between a little
weight, added by the motor, and lots more weight added by the crew? The
fact is that the boat is balanced for typical loads, which include the
motor.

Of course, it's a small boat, and as in any small boat, if you have an
very heavy load in the aft end of the boat, you would probably sail
better if you distributed the load somewhat.

Jim


Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim

you sailing with boob****?

"Jim Cate" wrote


Does this mean that if helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds,

jim, if you have to ask such a stupid question you plainly do not have the
intelligence to pass junior high school science class.

just to point out to you, jimmy, but race boats weighing much more than that
puny 3,000# mac won't allow a 200# crew to sit in the back of the cockpit for
what it does to the boat's perforance.

yo-yo, you put 200# on one end of a boat you have to put 200# on the other
end
of the boat to balance. makes for truly terrible performance in a chop.


Does this mean that if passengers and helmsman in the cockpit weigh
1,000 pounds, you have to bring an additional 1,000 pounds onboard and
store it in the bow? No? Then why do you have add 200# on the "other
end" to balance the motor? What's the difference between a little
weight, added by the motor, and lots more weight added by the crew? The
fact is that the boat is balanced for typical loads, which include the
motor.

Of course, it's a small boat, and as in any small boat, if you have an
very heavy load in the aft end of the boat, you would probably sail
better if you distributed the load somewhat.

Jim


Whatever you say you stupid ninny.


Calm down Johnny. Get a grip on yourself!

The Mac 26M is specifically designed to sail and motor with the 50-hp
outboard. Ballast is distributed forward in the boat for longitudinal
balance. Obviously, it isn't a Valiant 40, so if you intend to have four
or five large adults in the cockpit in addition to the motor, you might
want to re-distribute some of the load, move some heavier objects
forward, or the like.

It's interesting that you think a 200-lb. motor is going to simply ruin
the sailing characteristics of a 26-ft boat SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED for
it, yet you don't seem to have any problem with the much larger load of
several large passengers sitting in the cockpit. - Why the concern about
the motor itself? Think logic, and the basic laws of physics, Johnny. -
And intellectual honesty. (What you're trying to do, of course, is
maintain that the boat, with the motor, is fatally flawed because it
can't achieve proper longitudinal balance for sailing. - It simply isn't
so.)

Jim