Jax said: I've seen teenage girls out on Sunfish in 25+ knots. Always
amazed me.

Local kids here seem nonplussed about sailing Butterfly's, sailboards, and
other small dinghy things in the 25+ range here, too....I don't understand
where Ed is coming from with this stuff...he has said he sailed small lakes
and it may be that you wouldn't see them out on a small lake since it would
be more difficult to sail veering wind positions from topographically driven
systems...on a larger lake you would have more space with unchanging wind
patterns...

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I don't understand
where Ed is coming from with this stuff...he has said he sailed small lakes

I sail on the ocean, and I've sailed in 25 knot winds. Anyone who acts like
that is a walk in the park doesn't sail; they only talk about it.

The Veridican

"Veridican" wrote in message

I sail on the ocean, and I've sailed in 25 knot winds. Anyone who acts like
that is a walk in the park doesn't sail; they only talk about it.


Its more like a jog in the park, Ed. I'll admit that 35+ starts feeling more
like survival than pleasure boating, but I enjoy it, probably because its the
only "survival sport" I feel qualified to participate in.

However, 25 knots is not that big of a deal. I've sailed in those conditions
many, many times. Frankly, there was a period when I didn't bother to go out
unless it was blowing over 20 knots. Nowadays, we might not go out for a day
sail in 25 knots, especially if we have lubberly guests, but a forecast of 25
wouldn't affect our travel plans unless it was dead on the nose and we were
looking for an excuse to stay put. In fact, our last trip home was in those
conditions.

I'll admit that there's a lot fewer boats out when its blowing a bit, but that's
as it should be, since most smaller boats aren't really built to handle it and
certainly aren't comfortable. But there are lot of boats that are quite
capable of handling 25 knots in comfort. Frankly, the wind really isn't the
issue at all, its the seas. Here in New England a brisk NW breeze is offshore
and 25 knots is not that big an issue. A Nor'easter, however, might be another
story.

Jeff,

You say 25 knots is more like a jog in the park and 35 is survival conditions,
and then you say it's no big deal. 25 knots is 21 mph sustained. It's a force 6
wind. In a cruising boat, you should be in harnesses and reefed. In a dinghy
you shouldn't go out at all. I'm not saying it can't be fun, but don't make it
sound like it's a normal sailing experience. To use your own words, It's a jog
in the park.

The Veridican

On 14 Apr 2004 17:32:12 GMT, (Veridican) wrote:

Jeff,

You say 25 knots is more like a jog in the park and 35 is survival conditions,
and then you say it's no big deal. 25 knots is 21 mph sustained. It's a force 6
wind. In a cruising boat, you should be in harnesses and reefed. In a dinghy
you shouldn't go out at all. I'm not saying it can't be fun, but don't make it
sound like it's a normal sailing experience. To use your own words, It's a jog
in the park.

The Veridican

I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.

Last I checked also.

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"felton" wrote in message
...
On 14 Apr 2004 17:32:12 GMT, (Veridican) wrote:

Jeff,

You say 25 knots is more like a jog in the park and 35 is survival
conditions,
and then you say it's no big deal. 25 knots is 21 mph sustained. It's a
force 6
wind. In a cruising boat, you should be in harnesses and reefed. In a
dinghy
you shouldn't go out at all. I'm not saying it can't be fun, but don't
make it
sound like it's a normal sailing experience. To use your own words, It's
a jog
in the park.

The Veridican

I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.

I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.


You're right. So, my point is even more poignant.

The Veridican

Why is it poignant? Do you normally think of wind in MPH instead of knots? How
lubberly!



"Veridican" wrote in message
...
I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.


You're right. So, my point is even more poignant.

The Veridican

I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.


You're right. So, my point is even more poignant.

The Veridican

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felton wrote:

On 14 Apr 2004 17:32:12 GMT, (Veridican) wrote:


Jeff,

You say 25 knots is more like a jog in the park and 35 is survival conditions,
and then you say it's no big deal. 25 knots is 21 mph sustained. It's a force 6
wind. In a cruising boat, you should be in harnesses and reefed. In a dinghy
you shouldn't go out at all. I'm not saying it can't be fun, but don't make it
sound like it's a normal sailing experience. To use your own words, It's a jog
in the park.

The Veridican


I think your math needs a second look. 25 knots is roughly 29 mph.

In other words, it's even higher, in mph, than he indicated, which
further emphasizes the point he was making.

Jim