JAXAshby wrote:
okay, besides where the signal came from, over the nee, what else does the RDF
equipment tell _you_?


And again, you're too stupid to understand or be able to make any use of
that information.
Keep reading the Bowditch, Jax

I see you are trying to make some stupid "Jax" point here, so I'll bite.
In the days when we were all making use of RDF (either for a fix or a
homing beacon or danger bearing) the "equipment" told us three possible
things: Station identity, relative bearing, or true bearing, to the tower.

Are you looking for something else?

otn

an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

okay, besides where the signal came from, over the nee, what else does the
RDF
equipment tell _you_?


And again, you're too stupid to understand or be able to make any use of
that information.
Keep reading the Bowditch, Jax

I see you are trying to make some stupid "Jax" point here, so I'll bite.
In the days when we were all making use of RDF (either for a fix or a
homing beacon or danger bearing) the "equipment" told us three possible
things: Station identity, relative bearing, or true bearing, to the tower.

Are you looking for something else?

otn

Ahhh, Finally, we have it. YOU are a product of GPS. YOU don't know
anything about navigation. YOU only know how to read a GPS. YOU will go
into a panic if you don't know your position to a few feet, by your GPS.
YOU don't know how RDF was used or could be used. YOU don't know how to
use celestial. YOU don't know how to use a compass. YOU are a rank
amateur who prowls the boat shows and reads the magazines, and sometimes
acts as crew, because YOU don't know anything about boating, except what
you read or hear from other people. YOU are a total phony !!!

comments interspersed below:

JAXAshby wrote:
an *this* was accurate to what??

Totally depended on the equipment, operator, and/or conditions. A
"navigator" would know how much credence he could apply to the
particular bearing and/or fix. This was part of navigating ....
something you don't have the knowledge or experience to understand....
you're a "gypser"

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

G see above

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Jax, you've never done it .... you don't know whether it could or could
not be done.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Get over it, Jax. You never were and never will be, a "navigator". You
have neither the mental capacity nor the basic abilities, to be one.


otn

okay, besides where the signal came from, over the nee, what else does the

RDF

equipment tell _you_?



And again, you're too stupid to understand or be able to make any use of
that information.
Keep reading the Bowditch, Jax

I see you are trying to make some stupid "Jax" point here, so I'll bite.
In the days when we were all making use of RDF (either for a fix or a
homing beacon or danger bearing) the "equipment" told us three possible
things: Station identity, relative bearing, or true bearing, to the tower.

Are you looking for something else?

otn

over the nee huffing in the sandbox tells us that is almost big enough for his
mommy to buy him a jockstrap because he starts junior high school in two and a
half years thusly:

Ahhh, Finally, we have it. YOU are a product of GPS. YOU don't know
anything about navigation. YOU only know how to read a GPS. YOU will go
into a panic if you don't know your position to a few feet, by your GPS.
YOU don't know how RDF was used or could be used. YOU don't know how to
use celestial. YOU don't know how to use a compass. YOU are a rank
amateur who prowls the boat shows and reads the magazines, and sometimes
acts as crew, because YOU don't know anything about boating, except what
you read or hear from other people. YOU are a total phony !!!

comments interspersed below:

JAXAshby wrote:
an *this* was accurate to what??

Totally depended on the equipment, operator, and/or conditions. A
"navigator" would know how much credence he could apply to the
particular bearing and/or fix. This was part of navigating ....
something you don't have the knowledge or experience to understand....
you're a "gypser"

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

G see above

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an
RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Jax, you've never done it .... you don't know whether it could or could
not be done.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Get over it, Jax. You never were and never will be, a "navigator". You
have neither the mental capacity nor the basic abilities, to be one.


otn

okay, besides where the signal came from, over the nee, what else does
the

RDF

equipment tell _you_?



And again, you're too stupid to understand or be able to make any use of
that information.
Keep reading the Bowditch, Jax

I see you are trying to make some stupid "Jax" point here, so I'll bite.
In the days when we were all making use of RDF (either for a fix or a
homing beacon or danger bearing) the "equipment" told us three possible
things: Station identity, relative bearing, or true bearing, to the tower.

Are you looking for something else?

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
over the nee huffing in the sandbox tells us that is almost big enough for his
mommy to buy him a jockstrap because he starts junior high school in two and a
half years thusly:


BG So .... in other words, I "hit the nail on the head" and drove it
home with one whack.

otn

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Jaxie has just declared that it was impossible to cruise New England waters
before the invention of GPS! Maybe that explains why there are no boats in
Yarmouth, Freeport, Harpswell, Cundy's, Robinhood, Booth Bay, Linekin, Pemiquid,
Friendship, Muscongus, Tenant's, Rockland, Rockport, Camden, Belfast, Searsport,
Castine, North Haven, Vinalhaven, Stonington, Brooklin, Blue Hill, Swans Island,
Isle au Haut, Criehaven, Matinicus, Frenchboro, Bass Harbor, Southwest Harbor,
Northeast Harbor, Cranberry Harbor ... And that's before you actually get
"Downeast!"

no, I was actually saying that wandering around in a fog using RDF where a nav
error of 6 or 10 or 15 degrees could sink your boat is stew ped, and if you
happened to survive well you were lucky. Others weren't.

I was also wondering just how you used the paper sextant you claimed you had in
a fog without the moisture making it come apart (nevermind how you used a
sextant in a fog at all).

if you believe in a God at all jeffies, you should fall down on your knees and
pray thanksgiving for Him saving your sorry butt from your own dumbness.

an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an
RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Jaxie has just declared that it was impossible to cruise New England waters
before the invention of GPS! Maybe that explains why there are no boats in
Yarmouth, Freeport, Harpswell, Cundy's, Robinhood, Booth Bay, Linekin,
Pemiquid,
Friendship, Muscongus, Tenant's, Rockland, Rockport, Camden, Belfast,
Searsport,
Castine, North Haven, Vinalhaven, Stonington, Brooklin, Blue Hill, Swans
Island,
Isle au Haut, Criehaven, Matinicus, Frenchboro, Bass Harbor, Southwest
Harbor,
Northeast Harbor, Cranberry Harbor ... And that's before you actually get
"Downeast!"

So, just let me make sure I understand you. Are you saying that 6, 10, or
15 degrees could sink your boat? I believe many boats sail with these
figures.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no, I was actually saying that wandering around in a fog using RDF where a
nav
error of 6 or 10 or 15 degrees could sink your boat is stew ped, and if
you
happened to survive well you were lucky. Others weren't.

I was also wondering just how you used the paper sextant you claimed you
had in
a fog without the moisture making it come apart (nevermind how you used a
sextant in a fog at all).

if you believe in a God at all jeffies, you should fall down on your knees
and
pray thanksgiving for Him saving your sorry butt from your own dumbness.

an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using
an
RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you*
were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Jaxie has just declared that it was impossible to cruise New England
waters
before the invention of GPS! Maybe that explains why there are no boats
in
Yarmouth, Freeport, Harpswell, Cundy's, Robinhood, Booth Bay, Linekin,
Pemiquid,
Friendship, Muscongus, Tenant's, Rockland, Rockport, Camden, Belfast,
Searsport,
Castine, North Haven, Vinalhaven, Stonington, Brooklin, Blue Hill, Swans
Island,
Isle au Haut, Criehaven, Matinicus, Frenchboro, Bass Harbor, Southwest
Harbor,
Northeast Harbor, Cranberry Harbor ... And that's before you actually get
"Downeast!"