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Horvath March 6th 04 12:07 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
It's that time of year again, where I like to remind everybody that
St. Patrick was NOT Irish. His parents were Roman, he wasn't born in
Ireland, and he didn't grow up in Ireland.


PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that
he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the
people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain probably in the
first
half of the 5th century. At the age of 16 he was taken to Ireland by
pirates and sold into slavery. The young boy was sustained by his
faith
during his six years working as a herdsman. When Patrick escaped and
returned to Britain, he had a vision of the Irish beseeching him to
return
to Ireland to spread his faith. Patrick recorded this call to his
vocation
in the 'Confessio', his spiritual autobiography and one of his two
short
writings that have survived.
After studying in continental monasteries, Patrick returned to
Ireland
as a missionary. Despite a constant threat to his life, Patrick
traveled
widely, baptizing, confirming, and preaching and building churches,
schools,
and monasteries. Patrick succeeded in converting almost the entire
population of the island. His 'Epistola' pleads the case of the
Christian
Irish at the hands of their British conquerors. Patrick's writings
have
come to be appreciated for their simplicity and humility. St. Patrick
is
the patron saint of Ireland. His feast day is celebrated on March 17.





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katysails March 6th 04 12:47 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
You miss the whole point, Horvath. He CONVERTED Ireland to Catholicism =
and that is what is being celebrated....get with the program....and =
everyone Irish and Catholic already has your information so you're not =
informing anyone who would care....

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Horvath March 6th 04 02:13 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:47:26 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

You miss the whole point, Horvath. He CONVERTED Ireland to Catholicism and that is what is being celebrated....get with the program....and everyone Irish and Catholic already has your information so you're not informing anyone who would care....


St. Patrick didn't drive the snakes out of Ireland. He probably
couldn't drive a golf cart out of Ireland, but I bet he could figure
out how to fix your word wrap.




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Jeff Morris March 6th 04 02:33 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Worse, he taught them how to read and write.



"katysails" wrote in message
...
You miss the whole point, Horvath. He CONVERTED Ireland to Catholicism and that
is what is being celebrated....get with the program....and everyone Irish and
Catholic already has your information so you're not informing anyone who would
care....

--
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Scott Vernon March 6th 04 03:03 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Was he a sailor? No?, then who cares. AND FIX YOUR WORD WRAP, DUMMY.


"Horvath" wrote

PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that
he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the
people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain probably in the
first
half of the 5th century. At the age of 16 he was taken to Ireland by
pirates and sold into slavery. The young boy was sustained by his
faith
during his six years working as a herdsman. When Patrick escaped and
returned to Britain, he had a vision of the Irish beseeching him to
return
to Ireland to spread his faith. Patrick recorded this call to his
vocation
in the 'Confessio', his spiritual autobiography and one of his two
short
writings that have survived.
After studying in continental monasteries, Patrick returned to
Ireland
as a missionary. Despite a constant threat to his life, Patrick
traveled
widely, baptizing, confirming, and preaching and building churches,
schools,
and monasteries. Patrick succeeded in converting almost the entire
population of the island. His 'Epistola' pleads the case of the
Christian
Irish at the hands of their British conquerors. Patrick's writings
have
come to be appreciated for their simplicity and humility. St. Patrick
is
the patron saint of Ireland. His feast day is celebrated on March 17.





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Jeff Morris March 6th 04 03:09 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
He was a sailor, but not a very good one. His missionary career started after
currents took him astray from his original destination.



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Was he a sailor? No?, then who cares. AND FIX YOUR WORD WRAP, DUMMY.


"Horvath" wrote

PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that
he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the
people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain probably in the
first
half of the 5th century. At the age of 16 he was taken to Ireland by
pirates and sold into slavery. The young boy was sustained by his
faith
during his six years working as a herdsman. When Patrick escaped and
returned to Britain, he had a vision of the Irish beseeching him to
return
to Ireland to spread his faith. Patrick recorded this call to his
vocation
in the 'Confessio', his spiritual autobiography and one of his two
short
writings that have survived.
After studying in continental monasteries, Patrick returned to
Ireland
as a missionary. Despite a constant threat to his life, Patrick
traveled
widely, baptizing, confirming, and preaching and building churches,
schools,
and monasteries. Patrick succeeded in converting almost the entire
population of the island. His 'Epistola' pleads the case of the
Christian
Irish at the hands of their British conquerors. Patrick's writings
have
come to be appreciated for their simplicity and humility. St. Patrick
is
the patron saint of Ireland. His feast day is celebrated on March 17.





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Scott Vernon March 6th 04 03:33 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
was his nickname 'jax'?

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
He was a sailor, but not a very good one. His missionary career started

after
currents took him astray from his original destination.



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Was he a sailor? No?, then who cares. AND FIX YOUR WORD WRAP, DUMMY.


"Horvath" wrote

PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that
he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the
people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain probably in the
first
half of the 5th century. At the age of 16 he was taken to Ireland by
pirates and sold into slavery. The young boy was sustained by his
faith
during his six years working as a herdsman. When Patrick escaped and
returned to Britain, he had a vision of the Irish beseeching him to
return
to Ireland to spread his faith. Patrick recorded this call to his
vocation
in the 'Confessio', his spiritual autobiography and one of his two
short
writings that have survived.
After studying in continental monasteries, Patrick returned to
Ireland
as a missionary. Despite a constant threat to his life, Patrick
traveled
widely, baptizing, confirming, and preaching and building churches,
schools,
and monasteries. Patrick succeeded in converting almost the entire
population of the island. His 'Epistola' pleads the case of the
Christian
Irish at the hands of their British conquerors. Patrick's writings
have
come to be appreciated for their simplicity and humility. St. Patrick
is
the patron saint of Ireland. His feast day is celebrated on March 17.





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katysails March 6th 04 09:15 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Horvath stated:=20
St. Patrick didn't drive the snakes out of Ireland.=20

There never were any snakes in Ireland, dumbutt.....and I'm happy to see =
that I am still a thorn in your side.
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Kirie Elite 32
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails March 6th 04 09:17 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Scott asked: Was he a sailor?

No, but St. Brendhan was.

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Horvath March 6th 04 10:53 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:15:57 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Horvath stated:
St. Patrick didn't drive the snakes out of Ireland.

There never were any snakes in Ireland,


How do you know?

.....and I'm happy to see that I am still a thorn in your side.


You're more like a pinata that I can slap around.




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Horvath March 6th 04 10:59 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:17:31 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Scott asked: Was he a sailor?

No, but St. Brendhan was.


It's Saint Brendan, dumbass.



Saint Brendan —
Patron Saint of Sailors, Mariners






"St. Brendan was a priest and monk said to be educated by Saint Ita
and Saint Erc of Kerry. He was a friend of Saint Columba and Saint
Brendan of Birr, and founded Clonfert monastery and monastic school in
559. Many fantastic details have been added to this brief knowledge
usually based on the fictional 'Navigation' in which he is described
as searching for the Isles of the Blessed, touching the Canaries, and
even discovering America. It is possible that he actually made visits
to Scotland and Wales.






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Donal March 6th 04 11:11 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Was he a sailor? No?,


How do you think that he got to Ireland?


Regards


Donal
--




Scott Vernon March 7th 04 12:02 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Well, let's see, he was Irish, right, so he probably got drunk and passed
out on a boat headed that way.

Saint Scotty

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Was he a sailor? No?,


How do you think that he got to Ireland?


Regards


Donal
--





Scott Vernon March 7th 04 12:03 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
never heard of da bum

St. Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Scott asked: Was he a sailor?

No, but St. Brendhan was.

--
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Scott Vernon March 7th 04 12:06 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
That's what she wrote, smartass.

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Main Entry: St
Function: abbreviation
saint, status, street

St. Scotty

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:17:31 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Scott asked: Was he a sailor?

No, but St. Brendhan was.


It's Saint Brendan, dumbass.



Saint Brendan -
Patron Saint of Sailors, Mariners






"St. Brendan was a priest and monk said to be educated by Saint Ita
and Saint Erc of Kerry. He was a friend of Saint Columba and Saint
Brendan of Birr, and founded Clonfert monastery and monastic school in
559. Many fantastic details have been added to this brief knowledge
usually based on the fictional 'Navigation' in which he is described
as searching for the Isles of the Blessed, touching the Canaries, and
even discovering America. It is possible that he actually made visits
to Scotland and Wales.






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katysails March 7th 04 12:17 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Horvaass stated:

It's Saint Brendan...

Celtic: Brendhan...., buzi....
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails March 7th 04 12:21 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Horvass asked:=20
How do you know?

Centuries of inate familial knowledge handed down through dominant =
Celtic genes that allow for historical memory of epic proportions...

Horvass continued" You're more like a pinata that I can slap around.

Better take the blindfold off...you've missed each time...
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Donal March 7th 04 12:57 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Well, let's see, he was Irish, right,


Uh, oh!!!



so he probably got drunk and passed
out on a boat headed that way.


emmm .... If he was Irish, then [cough] he wouldn't have needed to use a
boat to get there!



Silly Scotty


As it happens, St. Patrick wasn't Irish.


I'm afraid that you are going to have to join Joe in the "Redneck" corner.
Sorry!



Regards


Donal
--




Scott Vernon March 7th 04 01:09 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Where did you hear that?


"Donal" wrote

Uh, oh!!!

As it happens, St. Patrick wasn't Irish.




Horvath March 7th 04 12:20 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:17:27 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this silly-assed crap:

Horvaass stated:

It's Saint Brendan...

Celtic: Brendhan...., buzi....


When did we change from English to Celtic, dumbass?




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Horvath March 7th 04 12:21 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:11:58 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Was he a sailor? No?,


How do you think that he got to Ireland?


Riding on a raft made up of sea snakes.




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Horvath March 7th 04 12:22 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:09:26 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

Where did you hear that?


It's in the subject line, dumbass.


"Donal" wrote

Uh, oh!!!

As it happens, St. Patrick wasn't Irish.





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Horvath March 7th 04 12:23 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 19:21:00 -0500, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Horvass asked:
How do you know?

Centuries of inate familial knowledge handed down through dominant Celtic genes that allow for historical memory of epic proportions...

Horvass continued" You're more like a pinata that I can slap around.

Better take the blindfold off...you've missed each time...


That's because I've been using a ten-foot pole so far.




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katysails March 7th 04 01:00 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Horass asked:=20
When did we change from English to Celtic,

Well, buzi, when you decided to speak of things Celtic (or not)....
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katysails March 7th 04 01:01 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Horass stated:=20
That's because I've been using a ten-foot pole so far.

And still you miss time and again....
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


Scott Vernon March 7th 04 03:06 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
which thread?

"Horvath"
wrote this crap:

Where did you hear that?


It's in the subject line, dumbass.




Horvath March 7th 04 05:29 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 10:06:26 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:

which thread?


Do you take stupid pills?


"Horvath"
wrote this crap:

Where did you hear that?


It's in the subject line, dumbass.





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Scott Vernon March 7th 04 05:52 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

"Horvath" wrote this crap:


Do you take stupid pills? I don't need them.



I'm sure you don't.

Scotty



Donal March 7th 04 10:10 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Where did you hear that?


I didn't hear it!

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.


Regards


Donal
--




"Donal" wrote

Uh, oh!!!

As it happens, St. Patrick wasn't Irish.






Donal March 7th 04 10:58 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:10:19 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Where did you hear that?


I didn't hear it!

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter

than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.


Regards


Donal


Yep on both counts....a coconut is brighter than Joe
and St Patrick was a Scot.


You know less about saints, than you know about coconuts!



Regards


Donal
--




Horvath March 7th 04 11:24 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 09:19:01 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

Yep on both counts....a coconut is brighter than Joe
and St Patrick was a Scot.


Wrong again, dumbass. He was Roman.




PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that
he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the
people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain probably in the
first
half of the 5th century. At the age of 16 he was taken to Ireland by
pirates and sold into slavery. The young boy was sustained by his
faith
during his six years working as a herdsman. When Patrick escaped and
returned to Britain, he had a vision of the Irish beseeching him to
return
to Ireland to spread his faith. Patrick recorded this call to his
vocation
in the 'Confessio', his spiritual autobiography and one of his two
short
writings that have survived.
After studying in continental monasteries, Patrick returned to
Ireland
as a missionary. Despite a constant threat to his life, Patrick
traveled
widely, baptizing, confirming, and preaching and building churches,
schools,
and monasteries. Patrick succeeded in converting almost the entire
population of the island. His 'Epistola' pleads the case of the
Christian
Irish at the hands of their British conquerors. Patrick's writings
have
come to be appreciated for their simplicity and humility. St. Patrick
is
the patron saint of Ireland. His feast day is celebrated on March 17.








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Scott Vernon March 8th 04 02:34 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Just a bit, eh?

"Donal" wrote

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter

than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.




Scott Vernon March 8th 04 02:35 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
Do you think Donal is brighter than a coconut?


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:10:19 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Where did you hear that?


I didn't hear it!

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter

than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.


Regards


Donal


Yep on both counts....a coconut is brighter than Joe
and St Patrick was a Scot.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Horvath March 8th 04 03:14 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:34:59 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Wrong again, dumbass. He was Roman.


Bwaahaahahhahahahhahaaa!
Holly, you're dumber than sterile dirt!


Apparently you have trouble reading.



PATRICK (5th century). The enduring legends of St. Patrick are that he
used a shamrock to explain the Trinity and that he banished all snakes
from Ireland. The true story of Patrick, however, survives not in his
myths but in his work. Patrick was responsible for converting the people
of Ireland to Christianity.
Patrick was born to a Romanized family in Britain


By the laws of Rome, children born of Roman citizens are also Roman
citizens. BTW, his parents names were Calpurnius and Conchessa. Do
these sound like Scottish names?




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Horvath March 8th 04 05:33 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:54:06 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Try this Holly
"It is unclear exactly where Patricius Magonus Sucatus (Patrick) was
born--somewhere in the west between the mouth of the Severn and the
Clyde--but this most popular Irish saint was probably born in Scotland
of British origin, perhaps in a village called Bannavem Taberniae.
(Other possibilities are in Gaul or at Kilpatrick near Dunbarton,
Scotland.) His father, Calpurnius, was a deacon and a civil official,
and his grandfather was a priest."


Uh huh. Where'd you get this crap?

BTW, children born of Roman parents were Roman, dumbass.




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Jonathan Ganz March 8th 04 07:12 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
It's called a book.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 08 Mar 2004 14:54:06 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Try this Holly
"It is unclear exactly where Patricius Magonus Sucatus (Patrick) was
born--somewhere in the west between the mouth of the Severn and the
Clyde--but this most popular Irish saint was probably born in Scotland
of British origin, perhaps in a village called Bannavem Taberniae.
(Other possibilities are in Gaul or at Kilpatrick near Dunbarton,
Scotland.) His father, Calpurnius, was a deacon and a civil official,
and his grandfather was a priest."


Uh huh. Where'd you get this crap?

BTW, children born of Roman parents were Roman, dumbass.




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Horvath March 8th 04 07:45 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
BTW, children born of Roman parents were not always Roman,
And knew how to set there word wrap for reading news group posts, dumbass.




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Donal March 9th 04 12:50 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:58:43 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:





Yep on both counts....a coconut is brighter than Joe
and St Patrick was a Scot.


You know less about saints, than you know about coconuts!


Is that a fact?
Pray tell my friend!

Careful now, it's a big drop into that hole!


That bit of bait was aimed at Joe! I was pointing out that you were correct
about the coconut!



Regards


Donal
--






Donal March 9th 04 12:54 AM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Just a bit, eh?


Ouch!



Regards


Donal
--




"Donal" wrote

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter

than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.






Joe March 9th 04 04:57 PM

St. Patrick was NOT Irish
 
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ...
Do you think Donal is brighter than a coconut?


No Scotty a coconut can sail in the fog. Donal's as smart as a box of
rocks, his brain is like a BB in a box car.

And Oz he's smart as a sack of ****, but without the personality.

Joe






OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 22:10:19 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Where did you hear that?

I didn't hear it!

I heard that he reached Ireland by boat, and because I'm a bit brighter

than
Joe, I realised that he couldn't be Irish.


Regards


Donal


Yep on both counts....a coconut is brighter than Joe
and St Patrick was a Scot.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



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