The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*
to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

our heading didn't change (as shown by the compass and the clouds in the sky),
just our course (as shown by the gps's).

The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*
to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart, but we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90* even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++ to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

If you headed west doesn't that put you right into the eddy? If it pushed you
east doesn't that mean it came from the west?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart, but
we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90*
even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++ to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

the Gulf Stream causing the eddy was to the east. so we headed west to get out
of the eddy.

If you headed west doesn't that put you right into the eddy? If it pushed
you
east doesn't that mean it came from the west?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart,
but
we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90*
even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++
to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

Thom, you must remember, that Jax is an amateur when it comes to many
things, especially navigation. You must understand that when he makes a
statement that his "course" was 190 and upon encountering an eddy,
became 090 (numbers from memory) that his amateur status means that this
statement can be taken in a number of ways, but he is not aware of that
fact.
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.
"Course" means many things, which are usually explained in the context
of how the term is used. In Jax's case, he is neither experienced nor
intelligent enough to realize this, and thus explain it in his post.
He also frequently uses this gambit to create a useless argument which
is really, nothing more than a "word game"

otn

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.

no kidding, otk? Is that what you believe? What did you do, read the post 18
times until you understood all the big words?

have you been tying one one for three days with olde fart and are just now
coming around?

otnmbrd
Date: 2/27/2004 8:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: .net

Thom, you must remember, that Jax is an amateur when it comes to many
things, especially navigation. You must understand that when he makes a
statement that his "course" was 190 and upon encountering an eddy,
became 090 (numbers from memory) that his amateur status means that this
statement can be taken in a number of ways, but he is not aware of that
fact.
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.
"Course" means many things, which are usually explained in the context
of how the term is used. In Jax's case, he is neither experienced nor
intelligent enough to realize this, and thus explain it in his post.
He also frequently uses this gambit to create a useless argument which
is really, nothing more than a "word game"

otn

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

JAXAshby wrote:
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when

they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.

no kidding, otk? Is that what you believe? What did you do, read the post 18
times until you understood all the big words?

have you been tying one one for three days with olde fart and are just now
coming around?

ROFLMAO I only needed to read the post once, to realize that, typically,
you, being the rank amateur you are, would not know enough to clarify
what you were trying to say, and would not realize (mainly because you
are extremely stupid .... no matter what your IQ scores) that what you
had said could be interpreted in a number of ways.
As I've said before and will continue to say .... you're a rank amateur
with only basic intelligence.............................. I still
wouldn't hire you as "BR".

otn

you read it "only once" but it took you three days to begin to understand?

yeah, "only basic intelligence", as you put it.

ROFLMAO I only needed to read the post once, to realize that, typically,
you, being the rank amateur you are, would not know enough to clarify
what you were trying to say, and would not realize (mainly because you
are extremely stupid .... no matter what your IQ scores) that what you
had said could be interpreted in a number of ways.
As I've said before and will continue to say .... you're a rank amateur
with only basic intelligence.............................. I still
wouldn't hire you as "BR".

otn