LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #21   Report Post  
Donal
 
Posts: n/a
Default Joe, the dangerous Redneck


"Shen44" wrote in message
...
Subject: Joe, the dangerous Redneck
From: "Donal"



You've highlighted the point that I have been trying to make.

Which is?

Different types of water user interpret the rules to suit their own
purposes.

I was a power boater, and now I sail.

Sailors tend to think that all power boaters are yobs. Power boaters

tend
to think that all sailors are ignorant.

When a power boater waves at a sail boat, he tends to get ignored.

My experience, is that sail boats have a higher percentage of idiots.

The
vast majority of power boaters are concientious.

Can't agree with this, but, so what.....



My initial complaint was that it was against the CollRegs to do 25

kts,
in
fog, using the Radar as your only visual lookout, and the VHF as your

only
hearing lookout.

You don't seem to be able to understand .....radar is being used as the

PRIMARY
visual lookout, not the only .....


AAARRRGHHHHHH!!!

Where did I criticise the use of Radar as *primary* lookout? I said

that
it was against the CollRegs to use Radar as the *sole* means of keeping a
"visual" lookout.


Mebbe yes, mebbe no. The only one who has come close to saying this is

Joe.....

Huh??? Please post a link to back up this stupid assertion!


Now, considering a peasoup fog, this would be the only way you could "see"
anything .... visual would be a waste of time (but should not be ignored,

as
wonders never cease). As for doing 25K, in these conditions ...... depends

on
the conditions...... so......AAARRRGHHHHHH, what's yer problem? EG



CollRegs????????




VHF is being used as a means to transmit and
agree on passing situations as well as possibly developing situations

..... not
as a hearing lookout.


Once again, I criticised the *sole* use of VHF as a "hearing" lookout!!!


And no one with functioning ears and more than two brain cells could

possibly
use it as the "sole" hearing lookout.



Joe does.


Moreover, you seem to think that Joe's position is correct! How many
brain cells do you possess?









I've never suggested that Radar, or VHF should be ignored. In fact,

they
must be used (if available) under the "and all available means"

clause.

Yet you don't seem to understand their capabilities in avoiding

collision,
when
used properly.


What makes you think such a thing?


The fact that you are still commenting on this thread.


That is just plain silly. I haven't said that Radar isn't useful. I've
said that the CollRegs stipulate that a lookout must be maintained by
"sight".







Remember, I'm commenting on people's *interpretation* of the CollRegs.

I'm
trying to point out that different groups of water users try to apply

their
own interpretation to the Regs.


I disagree. They are applying their interpretations based on the
interpretations from sources which seem to disagree with yours.

Unfortunately, this will cause accidents.


I've read those paragraphs twice. Can somebody pass me the Babel Fish?






I've already posted a link that demonstrates the dangers of using the

VHF.

.....and if I was a lawyer, eg I could find links that would demonstrate

that
the use of radar, in fog, is dangerous and can easily lead to collisions.
(Andrea Doria, Tricolor.......)


If, like Joe, you used the Radar to travel at 25 kts in fog, then you would
be able to find links that proved that your behaviour was dangerous.



Why do you guys seem so determined to ignore the CollRegs?


LOL still stuck on that, I see. None of us is ignoring the Colregs .... we

are
employing them in ways you disagree with, for whatever reason......


Then you won't object if I ask you to justify your position.

Joe says that he does 25 kts, in fog, with *NO* lookout, other than a Radar
and VHF watch.


I say that he is breaking the rules. What do you say?



Regards


Donal
--








 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Redneck Girl marklan General 0 June 14th 04 01:05 PM
Redneck Woman janet santana General 3 June 13th 04 04:52 PM
Dangerous quadrant? The_navigator© ASA 4 September 18th 03 05:55 PM
Installing storage - cutting aluminum bench, dangerous? No Spam General 3 July 16th 03 10:57 PM
Irrefutable proof of dangerous multihulls. Simple Simon ASA 29 July 16th 03 02:15 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:31 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 BoatBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Boats"

 

Copyright © 2017