Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well.
Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18"
in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3
computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay.
Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display
helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and
relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will
follow my eyes.

Why wouldent Capt. Neal have a TV on board? Beside not being able to
afford one.

Whats wrong with enjoying a flick at anchor or the dock, or underway
for that matter?

Perhaps if you lubbers spent a little more time aboard, It would not
seem "So Special" of a time. You would not have to SAVOR and relish it
like its something holy.

I like modern conviences and entertainment onboard my boat. And since
I live on my boat I also have a washer dryer, microwave, 4 burner
stove , oven, deep freeze, frig, stereo, blender, crock pot, toaster,
ect..... and most thing you will find in any home.

And none of it goes flying about when I sail.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

On 2 Feb 2004 14:02:57 -0800, (Joe) wrote:

Whats wrong with TV's onboard,


There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you
do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my
dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano
with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with
winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not
that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight
distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored
most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret
the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier.

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g


Cheers!


Remco

"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...

There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you
do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my
dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano
with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with
winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not
that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight
distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored
most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret
the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier.

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g

Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic
entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit
in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my
tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up
again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300
CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had.

I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays.

-jeff

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g

Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear!

Jeff, this moron is clearly a troll. Or perhaps he thinks it's 1975.

RB

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
.. .

There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you
do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my
dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano
with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with
winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not
that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight
distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored
most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret
the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier.

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g

Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my electronic
entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers fit
in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than my
tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it up
again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300
CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had.

I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays.

Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing
machine/deepfreezer and stuff...


Cheers!


Remco

I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays.

Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing
machine/deepfreezer and stuff...

No you weren't. You already spoke of the added weight of a TV and vid system
before you were put in your place.

RB

Don't get me started on a deep freezer. Ooops, I guess you did.

Since we bought out catamaran for long term cruising, my wife insisted on having
a large deep freeze. I admit it was nice to be able to reach in and pull out a
steak wherever we were, but its a pain being tied to a 90 Amp-hour per day draw.
If I had to do one thing over, it would be to have two separate small systems
for the fridge and freezer, rather than one large one.


--
-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup
at the deli."



"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
.. .

There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you
do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my
dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano
with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with
winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not
that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight
distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored
most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret
the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier.

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g

Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my
electronic
entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers
fit
in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than
my
tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it
up
again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300
CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had.

I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays.

Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing
machine/deepfreezer and stuff...


Cheers!


Remco

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Don't get me started on a deep freezer. Ooops, I guess you did.

Since we bought out catamaran for long term cruising, my wife insisted on having
a large deep freeze. I admit it was nice to be able to reach in and pull out a
steak wherever we were,

And keep in mind many countries will not let you bring in any meat or
produce.

Whats better is to reach in the sea and fill your freezer. But Surf &
Turf is nice.


but its a pain being tied to a 90 Amp-hour per day draw.


Get a gen set. I can run 3 hours a day and keep the freezer frozen.

If I had to do one thing over, it would be to have two separate small systems
for the fridge and freezer, rather than one large one.

Thats our set up, A small frig w freezer comp and a 8 cubic foot
freezer. Only pain in the arse is it has a big hatch top on the galley
counter to access it. And with limited counter space it usually
involves shuffeling stuff to get to it.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


--
-jeff www.sv-loki.com
"The sea was angry that day, my friend. Like an old man trying to send back soup
at the deli."



"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 19:53:31 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
.. .

There is nothing wrong with a TV on board. It all depends on what you
do with your boat. If I buy a Ferrari Enzo (yeah, right....in my
dreams only I fear) I don't have to suspect I can transport a piano
with it. If you're on a sailboat in the middle of the Atlantic with
winds over the 50 knots and a wave height over 30 feet, you're not
that happy with a TV on a bulkhead, or the change in weight
distribution all those electric equipment caused. But if you're moored
most of the time, or coastal cruising while you know how to interpret
the weather map, you want those things which makes life easier.

As long you don't carry those pesky powertools......g

Wow! You make it sound like thousands of pounds of gear! All of my
electronic
entertainment toys, TV/VCR, AM/FM, CD changer, a nice pair of small speakers
fit
in one box when I brought it ashore this fall. It is certainly lighter than
my
tools, or even the galley gear - perhaps 25 pounds total. Were I to set it
up
again it would be half the weight with flat screen and MP3's. Even the 300
CD's we had on board for our trip was nothing compared to the books we had.

I can understand not wanting a TV - I know people that never use one in their
house - but the weight savings is rather meaningless nowadays.

Hehe. I was actually more thinking about the washing
machine/deepfreezer and stuff...


Cheers!


Remco

On 2 Feb 2004 14:02:57 -0800, (Joe) wrote:

Whats wrong with TV's onboard, I have 2 they have DVD players as well.
Ones a bulkhead mounted flat 42" TV in the forward bunk room and a 18"
in the guest cabin. Have a direct TV dish onboard as well. Have 3
computer displays, and a color radar display with GPS & chart overlay.
Soon I will have flir. I would really like to have a heads up display
helmet that will always read my course, speed, wind direction, and
relay flir image from the monitor, hooked up to the camera that will
follow my eyes.

Why wouldent Capt. Neal have a TV on board? Beside not being able to
afford one.

If I am recalling correctly, Neal did/does have a TV aboard. I seem
to remember on his website that there was some sort of built in
cabinetry that had it secure and out of the way.

Whats wrong with enjoying a flick at anchor or the dock, or underway
for that matter?

A good friend of mine who grew up sailing the Great Lakes during his
youth, tells the story of one of the Macinaw (sp?) race boats that
used some sort of projector to show porn on their mainsail Same
principle, I suppose


Perhaps if you lubbers spent a little more time aboard, It would not
seem "So Special" of a time. You would not have to SAVOR and relish it
like its something holy.

I like modern conviences and entertainment onboard my boat. And since
I live on my boat I also have a washer dryer, microwave, 4 burner
stove , oven, deep freeze, frig, stereo, blender, crock pot, toaster,
ect..... and most thing you will find in any home.

And none of it goes flying about when I sail.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

tells the story of one of the Macinaw (sp?) race boats that
used some sort of projector to show porn on their mainsail =20

And here I thought that was urban legend all these years.....I've heard =
that story several times, too....
--=20
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