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Jeff Morris January 28th 04 09:05 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that, on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern

crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!


Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power

and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a

knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down

below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to

the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and

again
with almost no power penalty.


The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on

many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.

Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing

today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a

great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.


Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then, get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB








Capt. Mooron January 28th 04 09:16 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 

wrote in message
...
| On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:53:18 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
|
| wrote in message
|
| | I'll bet Neal has a TV!
|
| Nope... he don't!
|
| CM
|
|
| I'll bet that he does. When was the last time you were aboard his
| "boat"?

I've seen every shot of his boat's interior.... where do you think he might
be hiding a TV?
I'd laugh if he had one though.... that would be major fuel for a flame!

CM



Bobsprit January 28th 04 09:17 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies.


Oh, I was under the impression and people who cruise actually stop for long
periods or short. Oh well.

RB

Capt. Mooron January 28th 04 09:18 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|



Bobsprit January 28th 04 09:18 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies.

Always?


RB

Bobsprit January 28th 04 09:19 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Bob thinks he needs a 36 inch color set on a passage.

20"


RB

Bobsprit January 28th 04 09:21 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
I've seen every shot of his boat's interior.... where do you think he might
be hiding a TV?

He uses his laptop.

RB

Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:34 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Why don't you just use your laptop... or do you need that big-boat feel?
I think the new Queen Mary would suit you fine!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You pick up broadcasts from the middle of the ocean? WOW!


Gayanzy thinks a TV won't work with DVDs.

Bwahahahaha!

RB




Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:35 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
We know he has a laptop... (not the inflatable doll)

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:44:03 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| You mean 'Ouch, it hurts when I'm made to look like an idiot,
|
| Even FURTHER off topic, Martin. Do you agree with Remco that long range
| cruisers never carry TVs or that they can't function on a long distance
cruise?
|
| Hmmmm?

That's correct Bob... long range cruising sailboats don't generally carry

a
friggin TV. I've been on enough of them to ascertain that! Coastal

sailors
do carry TV's. I doubt you would see a TV on a boat that wasn't big

enough
to carry an electric dishwasher as well.

I use my laptop to "screen" DVD movies for the kids so we adults can

enjoy
an evening of drinking in peace. Walking with Dinosaurs is a big

favourite
with the young folk.

CM


I'll bet Neal has a TV!

BB




Jeff Morris January 28th 04 09:36 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
You're right, I had an awful time understanding people in Canada.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|





Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:36 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that???

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:53:18 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


wrote in message

| I'll bet Neal has a TV!

Nope... he don't!

CM


I'll bet that he does. When was the last time you were aboard his
"boat"?

BB




Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:40 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
John, this is all quite obvious to anyone who actually ventures offshore.
I spent 10 days going down the cal coast for example. The only free
time we had was for eating, fixing stuff, sleeping, and enjoying the
natural environment of the ocean. Below decks was used mostly for
eating, sleeping, nav work, and using the head, and this was a pretty good
sized boat... 48' CT. I can't imagine anyone (except boober) wanting to
waste time watching TV.

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of

how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap

he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a

modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!


Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like

it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power

and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a

knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down

below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition

to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now

and
again
with almost no power penalty.


The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on

many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.

Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing

today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be

a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.


Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,

get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB








Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:41 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at

their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like

the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,

on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he

would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of

how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at

your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to

do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas

about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap

he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis

in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a

modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like

it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little

power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down

below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in

addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now

and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment

on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.

Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites

showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can

be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,

get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB









Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:42 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Oh well... they don't watch TV. They get off their duffs and explore and
have fun, but you're idea of having fun is to stick your face in front of
the
idiot box. I guess that makes sense. I apologize.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies.


Oh, I was under the impression and people who cruise actually stop for

long
periods or short. Oh well.

RB




Jonathan Ganz January 28th 04 09:44 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument. You're really
TERRIBLE at actually doing anything else. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies.

Always?


RB




John Cairns January 28th 04 09:46 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Tell you what, planning a little bareboating excursion to the Leewards in
the next month or so, where I'm sure I should run into a fair number of
"long distance cruisers". At the risk of being completely obnoxious, I'll
ask every single one that I encounter if they have a television or video
system on board, and how big their boat is. I'll tell them it's an informal
survey for my own curiosity, hell, maybe I'll tell them it's for this almost
pointless discussion. Then when we return I'll post the results. Might not
be scientific, though it should be interesting.
John Cairns
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies.


Oh, I was under the impression and people who cruise actually stop for

long
periods or short. Oh well.

RB




Scott Vernon January 28th 04 10:32 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
French porn, ooh la la......

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back,

like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is

very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think

of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the

crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any

basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you

like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy

down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie

now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV

can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing.

Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|




Scott Vernon January 28th 04 10:35 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
"John Cairns" wrote ...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he


wouldn't be such an asshole all the time?

"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.



now John, he does claim he made a 3 day passage last year.

SV


Jeff Morris January 28th 04 10:44 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to "vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news. The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at

their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like

the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,

on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he

would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of

how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at

your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to

do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas

about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap

he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis

in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a

modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like

it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little

power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in

addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now

and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment

on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites

showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can

be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,

get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB











John Cairns January 28th 04 11:15 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to

"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news.

The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model

to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns



Bobsprit January 28th 04 11:31 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument.

Actually, it was Remco who made the absolute statement. I merely said that the
modern blue water could certainly afford to carry a TV these days with little
trouble. I dare say some blue water sailors might enjoy classic or modern
cinema. These days you can carry a flat screen set and 100 movies in a thick
wallet.
Remco is thinking of big TVs and VHS machines. He's clearly an older fella as
is Marty.

RB

Bobsprit January 28th 04 11:31 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Why don't you just use your laptop... or do you need that big-boat feel?
I think the new Queen Mary would suit you fine!

We do use the laptop at anchor. Uses less power and actually has the bigger
screen.

RB

Jeff Morris January 28th 04 11:32 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Your theory sounds good, but I think its just a matter of preference. The
people that don't like TV won't have one on board. Most of the cruisers on
larger boats that I've met have one, if only for occasional use.

BTW, the liveaboards that I bought the TV from cruise Nova Scotia in the Summer,
sometimes going to Newfoundland. In the winter they normally hang out in SC, but
sometimes they go to FL or the Bahamas. Almost all of this time is at anchor,
and they've been doing it for most of the last 25 years.


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to

"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news.

The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model

to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns





Bobsprit January 28th 04 11:33 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Tell you what, planning a little bareboating excursion to the Leewards in
the next month or so, where I'm sure I should run into a fair number of
"long distance cruisers".

Sure, John, give it a try. I expect you'll find at least a few sailors who are
also film fans and have some sort of system on board.

RB

Bobsprit January 28th 04 11:37 PM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
You guys are missing the point. Dumbco made an absolute statement, He said blue
water sailors don't carry TVs. He's wrong. Some do. Whether they want to screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,
there's no great penalty in carry such a system if it's what you want.

As usual, I'm on topic and right.

RB

Donal January 29th 04 12:00 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern

crusing
boat.




Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!


Absolutely correct. You are no "long range cruiser". You are, also, not
a "medium range cruiser".
Furthermore, you are not a "short range cruiser".

Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.




Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power and
takes up even less space.


Yup! I have one in my living room. It doesn't save as much space as I
had hoped.

Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a

knockdown.
Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to

the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and

again
with almost no power penalty.


That is really sad. Really. Honestly.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on many

a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.


Couldn't you find something to talk about, instead? It seems that you
(plural) would prefer to "be entertained" than to have to talk to each
other. Funny! One of the great things about a cruise, is that it really
brings the family togrether. You end up playing Scrabble, having
discussions, and generally enjoying *companionship*. These are probably
alien concepts for a New Yorker - and you have my deepest sympathy. I
would really hate to be what you are.

I guess that I am lucky, huh?

Anyone who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing

today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a

great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.


It's probably more of a treat for those who have nothing to say to each
other, but would like to keep a physical relationship alive just so that
they can feel important.




Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!


Let's welcome in "consumer relationships". eh?

Let's enjoy a "responsibility free" life until the relentless advance of
years triggers an enormous panic, and then we will get married. Let me tell
you, it doesn't work like that.


Regards


Donal
--







Donal January 29th 04 12:23 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I have observed that Boob comes close to appoplexia when this
group threatens to ignore hime.


That's a good one! When has this group of failures EVER come close to

ignoring
me. You can't do it. No NOW. Not EVER.


Yes we can.


Wanna issue a challenge?

How about - you defy us to ignore you for a week?

That *would* be fun.


Regards


Donal
--




Bobsprit January 29th 04 12:24 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.

Off topic again, Donal. Wanna join the thread or make silly trolls?

RB

Donal January 29th 04 12:32 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.

Off topic again, Donal. Wanna join the thread or make silly trolls?


Silly trolls, please!


Now, please tell us about your "out of sight of land" trips.


You can't, can you?

What a wimp! Keep eating the lentils!



Regards


Donal
--




John Cairns January 29th 04 12:37 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
I'm sure I will.
John Cairns
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Tell you what, planning a little bareboating excursion to the Leewards in
the next month or so, where I'm sure I should run into a fair number of
"long distance cruisers".

Sure, John, give it a try. I expect you'll find at least a few sailors who

are
also film fans and have some sort of system on board.

RB




Peter Wiley January 29th 04 12:55 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
In article , Donal
wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I have observed that Boob comes close to appoplexia when this
group threatens to ignore hime.


That's a good one! When has this group of failures EVER come close to

ignoring
me. You can't do it. No NOW. Not EVER.


Yes we can.


Wanna issue a challenge?

How about - you defy us to ignore you for a week?

That *would* be fun.


Piece of cake. I KF'ed him years ago along with the other prime trash
fish like Jaxass and Whoresass, only see anything they post because you
guys reply.

PDW

Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:12 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
But you've got to have a TV (television). Ok. Well, you win again.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Why don't you just use your laptop... or do you need that big-boat feel?
I think the new Queen Mary would suit you fine!

We do use the laptop at anchor. Uses less power and actually has the

bigger
screen.

RB




Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:13 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
point taken, but only an idiot would even make the claim that neal has one.

wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 13:36:15 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"


wrote:

Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that???


Well, you'll notice I was asking Moron.

BB

wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:53:18 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


wrote in message

| I'll bet Neal has a TV!

Nope... he don't!

CM


I'll bet that he does. When was the last time you were aboard his
"boat"?

BB






Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:14 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Ah.. occasional use. That cuts out boobie.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Your theory sounds good, but I think its just a matter of preference. The
people that don't like TV won't have one on board. Most of the cruisers

on
larger boats that I've met have one, if only for occasional use.

BTW, the liveaboards that I bought the TV from cruise Nova Scotia in the

Summer,
sometimes going to Newfoundland. In the winter they normally hang out in

SC, but
sometimes they go to FL or the Bahamas. Almost all of this time is at

anchor,
and they've been doing it for most of the last 25 years.


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to

"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and

news.
The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different

model
to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely

different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like

many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat

as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers

are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying

put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place

your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns







Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:15 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
No. You're a liar. I believe Remco over you any day.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument.

Actually, it was Remco who made the absolute statement. I merely said that

the
modern blue water could certainly afford to carry a TV these days with

little
trouble. I dare say some blue water sailors might enjoy classic or modern
cinema. These days you can carry a flat screen set and 100 movies in a

thick
wallet.
Remco is thinking of big TVs and VHS machines. He's clearly an older fella

as
is Marty.

RB




Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:15 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
As usual, for you it would be porn because that's all you can get.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You guys are missing the point. Dumbco made an absolute statement, He said

blue
water sailors don't carry TVs. He's wrong. Some do. Whether they want to

screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,
there's no great penalty in carry such a system if it's what you want.

As usual, I'm on topic and right.

RB




Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:16 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
I'm offended also.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern

crusing
boat.




Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!


Absolutely correct. You are no "long range cruiser". You are, also,

not
a "medium range cruiser".
Furthermore, you are not a "short range cruiser".

Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.




Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power

and
takes up even less space.


Yup! I have one in my living room. It doesn't save as much space as I
had hoped.

Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a

knockdown.
Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to

the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and

again
with almost no power penalty.


That is really sad. Really. Honestly.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on

many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.


Couldn't you find something to talk about, instead? It seems that you
(plural) would prefer to "be entertained" than to have to talk to each
other. Funny! One of the great things about a cruise, is that it

really
brings the family togrether. You end up playing Scrabble, having
discussions, and generally enjoying *companionship*. These are probably
alien concepts for a New Yorker - and you have my deepest sympathy. I
would really hate to be what you are.

I guess that I am lucky, huh?

Anyone who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing

today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a

great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.


It's probably more of a treat for those who have nothing to say to each
other, but would like to keep a physical relationship alive just so that
they can feel important.




Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!


Let's welcome in "consumer relationships". eh?

Let's enjoy a "responsibility free" life until the relentless advance of
years triggers an enormous panic, and then we will get married. Let me

tell
you, it doesn't work like that.


Regards


Donal
--









Jonathan Ganz January 29th 04 01:16 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
Boober, you are the KING of off-topic vitrol. YOU WIN!!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.

Off topic again, Donal. Wanna join the thread or make silly trolls?

RB




Capt. Mooron January 29th 04 01:29 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 
I'll K/F Bob till I get back from the arctic.... how's that? ;-D

CM

"Donal" wrote in message
...
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| I have observed that Boob comes close to appoplexia when this
| group threatens to ignore hime.
|
|
| That's a good one! When has this group of failures EVER come close to
| ignoring
| me. You can't do it. No NOW. Not EVER.
|
| Yes we can.
|
|
| Wanna issue a challenge?
|
| How about - you defy us to ignore you for a week?
|
| That *would* be fun.
|
|
| Regards
|
|
| Donal
| --
|
|
|



DSK January 29th 04 01:32 AM

Flying TVs at Sea!!!!
 


How about - you defy us to ignore you for a week?

That *would* be fun.


Peter Wiley wrote:
Piece of cake. I KF'ed him years ago along with the other prime trash
fish like Jaxass and Whoresass, only see anything they post because you
guys reply.


Boobsie is easy to ignore, he's boring. But Jax is really funny, you're
missing a lot of prime entertainment KFing him.

DSK



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