Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will
run and/or charge off your boat batteries?

Any drill will charge off a low cost inverter. Buy a good one, such as a
Makita. I carry a Makita C2 and a low cost B&D combi drive.
Is there no end to your idiocy and cheapness?
With a boat like yours don't skimp on tools!

RB

Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a
Robi. Best value.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a
Robi.


No name, but by a Robi...which is essentially a toy drill?
Even a low end B&D lasts longer! Buy a makita or even a MW...a real drill.

RB

No name, but by a Robi...which is essentially a toy drill?
Even a low end B&D lasts longer! Buy a makita or even a MW...a real drill.

Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything.
Robi's are used by many professionals. I called it a value because they are
much cheaper than Makitas with a fine build quality and the batteries hold a
charge unlike many other less expensive brands.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything.
Robi's are used by many professionals.


Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all cheap
consumer models for the most part. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi
anything out. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products
actually used by pros. Makita is among the top units around for many years. I
also use Porta Cable sanders. Bosch jigs are the best due to the patents. Ryobi
makes 50 & 60 dollar cheapie's or combi kits. Scotty already owns enough crap,
so why egg him on to get more?
Ryobi available at National Liquidaters!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill.
They are all cheap
consumer models for the most part.

According to an acquaintance who services hand power tools, this is true.
They are all consumer-level products.

Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi
anything out.

The group that just installed my new soffits and fascia all used Ryobis. I
asked the company owner about them. His reponse was that he had used DeWalt
(made by Black and Decker, for the most part) and Porter Cable
driver/drills, and the workers kept dropping them and destroying them. So
he switched to Ryobis to cut his losses. And he said they've actually
worked just as well. No problems of any nature that he hadn't already
incurred with the more expensive drills. Of course his workers drop them,
too, so how long he uses them before replacing 'em is anyone's guess.

Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products

I'm no fan of B&D, but I think you get what you pay for. If your duty cycle
is consumer, not professional, a B&D drill or whatever may last for decades.
If you use 'em everyday, all day, they won't hold up.

Max

I'll agree with that Max..... tools are often listed as "dispensable" when
crews are involved. Private craftsmen will use the more expensive tools. For
99% of the amateur back-yard carpenters... a DeWalt or a Porter Cable is not
only overkill but many tools have adjustments and features that will never
be used by someone building a doghouse or bird feeder.

Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to
how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade
tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools!

BTW: DeWalt has bought B&D. I go to their store and they have it divided
up..... the orange B&Ds are on the right. The yellow DeWalts are on the
left. I buy the Dewalt refurbished tools at half the price of a new model
and buy all the bits and blades from the B&D side since they are
interchangeable. I saw two router bit kits... both identical in size, shape
and type of bits... one in a yellow case [DeWalt] was $80 and the one in the
orange case [B&D] was $50. I asked the clerk what the difference was between
the two.... he said the colour of the case and the price. Bob would have
bought the yellow case.... I bought the orange one. ;-D

CM



"Maxprop" wrote in message

| The group that just installed my new soffits and fascia all used Ryobis.
I
| asked the company owner about them. His reponse was that he had used
DeWalt
| (made by Black and Decker, for the most part) and Porter Cable
| driver/drills, and the workers kept dropping them and destroying them. So
| he switched to Ryobis to cut his losses. And he said they've actually
| worked just as well. No problems of any nature that he hadn't already
| incurred with the more expensive drills. Of course his workers drop them,
| too, so how long he uses them before replacing 'em is anyone's guess.
|
| Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products
|
| I'm no fan of B&D, but I think you get what you pay for. If your duty
cycle
| is consumer, not professional, a B&D drill or whatever may last for
decades.
| If you use 'em everyday, all day, they won't hold up.
|
| Max
|
|
|

Professionals buy and use tools that get the job
done quickest. Professionals buy Ryobi for the
reason stated earlier--Dewalt cost more without
any gain in quality. Hang out at Home Depot and
see who buys these tools--mostly professionals.

Higher voltage 18 V or 24 V tools work better
than 12 Volt tools. The advantage of 12 volts
tools is you can charge them without a charger
cradle directly off deep cycle batteries by
hooking them up in parallel. Higher voltage
offers better battery life, but requires an
inverter and charger with an associated loss
in charging efficiency.

I have two 18 V Ryobi drills, a saw, a sawsall,
a vacuum, and a worklight, and four batteries.

The light weight of these tools versus the time
needed to configure power cords makes tool
choice. If the job can be done with battery
power that's a plus. Many job sites don't have
power, or setting up extension cords is a job
in itself. A boat at sea is a good example
where such tools have great utility.

Ryobi battery powered tools can handle moderate
professional applications and often they are
better suited to professional work than
Skillsaw's and AC powered Milwakee sawalls.

My Ryobi tools are so good I tossed out my
old AC powered drills, sold two homeowner grade
saws, sold all my battery powered Makita tools,
and kept only my biggest AC powered right angle
super heavy duty drill, my Sawsall, and two
Skillsaws.

For the cost of two batteries, you can buy
those plus an extra drill. I find four batteries
and two chargers keep me working without pause.
In two and half years these drills have taken
all the abuse I can give them.

My Ryboi skillsaw cuts lots of 2x4's on a
single battery although it is not tough enough
for larger material even with battery changes.
Along with a Paslode nailgun it's perfect for
small framing jobs and avoids long set up
times. I used one exclusively for finish
framing in a third floor attic remodel. I like
it so much I'm thinking about buying a Ryobi
chop saw.

Ryobi skillsaws work great cutting cedar
shingles on a roof where a cord is in the way.
Also, a full size sawsall won't fit in small
spaces like cutting or widening plumbing and
wiring holes between studs.

They are also cheap and affordable. Anyone
says these tool are not professional grade has
his head up his ass.

Bart Senior

(Bobsprit) wrote

Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything.
Robi's are used by many professionals.


Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all cheap
consumer models for the most part. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi
anything out. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products
actually used by pros. Makita is among the top units around for many years. I
also use Porta Cable sanders. Bosch jigs are the best due to the patents. Ryobi
makes 50 & 60 dollar cheapie's or combi kits. Scotty already owns enough crap,
so why egg him on to get more?
Ryobi available at National Liquidaters!

RB

There you have it.



Anyone
says these tool are not professional grade has
his head up his ass.

Bart Senior

I hear ya.... My buddy has one of those DeWalt cordless kits with the
circular saw and drill. It's 18 volt and a bit big to carry around all day
on the job I think.... but he keeps the kit on his boat. Works great!

CM

"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
| Professionals buy and use tools that get the job
| done quickest. Professionals buy Ryobi for the
| reason stated earlier--Dewalt cost more without
| any gain in quality. Hang out at Home Depot and
| see who buys these tools--mostly professionals.
|
| Higher voltage 18 V or 24 V tools work better
| than 12 Volt tools. The advantage of 12 volts
| tools is you can charge them without a charger
| cradle directly off deep cycle batteries by
| hooking them up in parallel. Higher voltage
| offers better battery life, but requires an
| inverter and charger with an associated loss
| in charging efficiency.
|
| I have two 18 V Ryobi drills, a saw, a sawsall,
| a vacuum, and a worklight, and four batteries.
|
| The light weight of these tools versus the time
| needed to configure power cords makes tool
| choice. If the job can be done with battery
| power that's a plus. Many job sites don't have
| power, or setting up extension cords is a job
| in itself. A boat at sea is a good example
| where such tools have great utility.
|
| Ryobi battery powered tools can handle moderate
| professional applications and often they are
| better suited to professional work than
| Skillsaw's and AC powered Milwakee sawalls.
|
| My Ryobi tools are so good I tossed out my
| old AC powered drills, sold two homeowner grade
| saws, sold all my battery powered Makita tools,
| and kept only my biggest AC powered right angle
| super heavy duty drill, my Sawsall, and two
| Skillsaws.
|
| For the cost of two batteries, you can buy
| those plus an extra drill. I find four batteries
| and two chargers keep me working without pause.
| In two and half years these drills have taken
| all the abuse I can give them.
|
| My Ryboi skillsaw cuts lots of 2x4's on a
| single battery although it is not tough enough
| for larger material even with battery changes.
| Along with a Paslode nailgun it's perfect for
| small framing jobs and avoids long set up
| times. I used one exclusively for finish
| framing in a third floor attic remodel. I like
| it so much I'm thinking about buying a Ryobi
| chop saw.
|
| Ryobi skillsaws work great cutting cedar
| shingles on a roof where a cord is in the way.
| Also, a full size sawsall won't fit in small
| spaces like cutting or widening plumbing and
| wiring holes between studs.
|
| They are also cheap and affordable. Anyone
| says these tool are not professional grade has
| his head up his ass.
|
| Bart Senior
|
| (Bobsprit) wrote
|
| Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about
everything.
| Robi's are used by many professionals.
|
|
| Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all
cheap
| consumer models for the most part. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a
Ryobi
| anything out. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good
products
| actually used by pros. Makita is among the top units around for many
years. I
| also use Porta Cable sanders. Bosch jigs are the best due to the
patents. Ryobi
| makes 50 & 60 dollar cheapie's or combi kits. Scotty already owns enough
crap,
| so why egg him on to get more?
| Ryobi available at National Liquidaters!
|
| RB