DSK wrote:



OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter wrote:


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

It seems pretty likely to me that he stopped a lot of debris from the truck he was
hiding under. I'm not trying to make a long-distance medical diagnosis but the guy
was dragging himself along the ground and looked pretty badly hurt, leaving a thick
trail behind him among other things. A friend looking over my shoulder says he was
already stopped moving (dead?) when they shot him the second time.

BTW the Army says it is not using depleted uranium any more... I wonder how true
that is? Those bullets look like they went right through those trucks like wet
tissue.

DSK

What were 'metal piercing bullets' made from before? My 30-06 Springfield
(military model) came with some clips full of MPBs.

Scotty

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Martin Baxter wrote:


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but
at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all
the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

It seems pretty likely to me that he stopped a lot of debris from the
truck he was
hiding under. I'm not trying to make a long-distance medical diagnosis but
the guy
was dragging himself along the ground and looked pretty badly hurt,
leaving a thick
trail behind him among other things. A friend looking over my shoulder
says he was
already stopped moving (dead?) when they shot him the second time.

BTW the Army says it is not using depleted uranium any more... I wonder
how true
that is? Those bullets look like they went right through those trucks like
wet
tissue.

DSK

Scott Vernon wrote:

What were 'metal piercing bullets' made from before? My 30-06 Springfield
(military model) came with some clips full of MPBs.

I know that some were made from a high molybdenum steel with surface hardened
tips. There are different ways of doing it, the above is 1960s era technology.

The bullet needs to be dense enough to carry a lot of energy into the target
surface, and enough harder to not get distorted (so that the energy of impact
stays in a small area) and yet surface hardening also makes metal brittle, so if
you overdo that part, the bullet just shatters. Depleted uranium is much simpler
(once you figure out how to make it in the first place) but as Martin said, the
dust & debris around the target are not healthy.

It doesn't do much for our "good guy" image to leave low-level radioactive
debris all around a country we've liberated. Future generations will not toss
flowers in our path for elevating their cancer rate! Just my humble opinon.... I
wonder if the US has really stopped using depleted uranium, or if they've found
something almost as good?

BTW did you see the clips of Carolina beating UConn?

DSK

DSK wrote:

Just my humble opinon.... I
wonder if the US has really stopped using depleted uranium, or if they've found
something almost as good?



Just about any really dense metal will do for this type of technology, I've seen rounds
made with hardened copper that work quite well. The big problem is finding something that
is really dense that has sufficient tensile strength to withstand the acceleration of being
fired from the weapon and at the same time is not expensive. DU filled these requirements
nicely, it's a waste product and thus cheap, as an added boon this was a great way of disposing
of several thousands of tons of unwanted radioactive waste. I believe I read that making
this type of kinetic round with copper is actually more expensive than DU.

Cheers
Marty

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 06:54:47 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote this crap:

Just about any really dense metal will do for this type of technology, I've seen rounds
made with hardened copper that work quite well. The big problem is finding something that
is really dense that has sufficient tensile strength to withstand the acceleration of being
fired from the weapon and at the same time is not expensive. DU filled these requirements
nicely, it's a waste product and thus cheap, as an added boon this was a great way of disposing
of several thousands of tons of unwanted radioactive waste.

DU is NOT radioactive waste, dumbass. DU is the byproduct of removing
the radioactive isotopes from natural uranium. It's called "depleted
uranium" because the valuable radioactive material has been removed.





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Horvath wrote:

It's called "depleted
uranium" because the valuable material has been removed.


That's why I think you have a depleted cranium.


;-P


Cheers

Horvath wrote:



DU is NOT radioactive waste, dumbass. DU is the byproduct of removing
the radioactive isotopes from natural uranium. It's called "depleted
uranium" because the valuable radioactive material has been removed.


You may be the thickest individual to ever post on this news group. co some
research.

Cheers
Marty

No, haven't watched a game all year. Waiting for March Madness.

SV


"DSK" wrote in message
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BTW did you see the clips of Carolina beating UConn?

DSK

Martin Baxter wrote in message ...
DSK wrote:



OTOH, it was nice of them to put that guy out of his
misery (IMHO). From the looks of it, he was in bad shape and not anywhere near
likely to get good medical care.


You may be right there, he may just have had his eardrums ruptured, but at
the very least he'd probably soon get cancer and die from ingesting all the
depleted uranium dust that was flying about.

Cheers
Marty


Marty depleted uranium is saved for bigger things than trucks.
Mostly found on tanks. Typical DU round has to cost a couple of grand.

If your gonna spend that kind of money on a few cut throte murders
running in fields you might as well vaporize the whole bunch with a
hellfire missle.

If you do not want to be killed in a field by someone you can not
see, you should not be running around with weapons used to kill the
guy who just killed you. You follow me?

How do you think the average man in the back of a helo hit by a RPG
feels when he's spinning to the ground about to die?

And the rat that shot the RPG runs down his rat hole to strike
another day.

Joe
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