ganz, read it again, this time slowly and out loud.

I think what you're trying to say is that one would still
want a liferaft even if one had a multi... English your
second language by chance?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


you don't need training wheels not to need an inflatable rubber saucer,
aka
liferaft.

it can be a lot longer than 4 days. In fact, 4 days might be considered rather
quick for that trip.

It is only 650 miles. That's four days.
Refridgeration always seems to break down
and ruin all your food. If you don't count
on it, it can't crap out on you. Bring rice,
pasta and, eggs, and a fishing pole.

Radar is nice for determining how far you
are from while making an approach. I suppose
a chart display will do that also. Both
together are reassuring.

You should have some long range communications
either an SSB that you know how to use, and
that works--many I've seen don't work and the
owners are cluesless that they don't, or
better--a sat-phone.

Also, and EPRIB is good.

I prefer foam lifejackets. It would not be
fun to find out in the middle of the ocean
that your inflatable doesn't work. If you
wear an inflatable, wear it outside of your
foulies.

Bart

"John Cairns" wrote

Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need? Do I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB, should
the
boat have refrigeration?
John Cairns

Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


Is there no end to Ganzy's lack of sailing brains?
You don't need a liferaft for a multi? Bwahahhaahahahaha!

Okay ganzy!

RB

especially if you spend 3 of those days looking for the Gulf Stream.

SV


"JAXAshby" wrote ...
it can be a lot longer than 4 days. In fact, 4 days might be considered
rather
quick for that trip.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ganz, read it again, this time slowly and out loud.
snip

you don't need training wheels not to need an inflatable rubber saucer,
aka
liferaft.


Let's try to translate this......

Inflatable rubber saucer = liferaft

The two negatives ("don't" and "not to") cancel each other out, so it's
quite easy, really.

"You need training wheels to need a liferaft."

Did I get it right, Jax?



Regards


Donal
--

John,

I've known people that have made that trip with a watch set to greenwich
time and a small hand held AM Portable radio to home in on Bermuda's
radio broadcasts.

They sailed south on the LNH until picking up the local broadcast from
the Island

It is around a 900 mile trip, roughly a week to ten days. Refrig helps
if you want fresh produce but setting up for cruising rations isn't that
hard to take for that lenght of time

OT

OzOne wrote:


Yep, makes a valid point, the thing stayed afloat for 6 months!
try that in a mono!

Why not, a mono could have positive flotation

DSK

N1EE wrote:

It is only 650 miles. That's four days.

Depends on the boat, depends on the weather. I think the record now is a little
under 3 days, but it would take a pretty fast boat to get there in four days.


Refridgeration always seems to break down
and ruin all your food. If you don't count
on it, it can't crap out on you. Bring rice,
pasta and, eggs, and a fishing pole.

Agreed, with the caveat that I've found modern refrigeration to be quite
reliable... provided the installation is done right... however it is a power hog.



Radar is nice for determining how far you
are from while making an approach. I suppose
a chart display will do that also. Both
together are reassuring.

Radar can be a great tool for figuring out approaches. Radar will tell you things
that a GPS will not... and vice versa of course.



You should have some long range communications
either an SSB that you know how to use, and
that works--many I've seen don't work and the
owners are cluesless that they don't, or
better--a sat-phone.

A good thing to have, but really not a necessity. The SSB hooked to a weather fax
would also be a great tool.


Also, and EPRIB is good.

Well, my own philosophy is to not worry about calling for help and thus not to
worry about keeping in touch either. One thing is for sure, cell phone coverage is
going to really suck most of the way.



I prefer foam lifejackets. It would not be
fun to find out in the middle of the ocean
that your inflatable doesn't work. If you
wear an inflatable, wear it outside of your
foulies.

Very good point. The inflatable harnesses are better than nothing, but they are
far from totally reliable. Also they do nothing to keep you warm nor protect you
from impacts. And as for havng one inflate inside your foul weather gear, that an
be a death sentence. Yet people wear them inside their jackets all the time.

BTW a few people mentioned "sextants." How about almanacs? A sextant, all by
itself, is not very useful.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Jackass... write it again, this time in English.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ganz, read it again, this time slowly and out loud.

I think what you're trying to say is that one would still
want a liferaft even if one had a multi... English your
second language by chance?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


you don't need training wheels not to need an inflatable rubber saucer,
aka
liferaft.

Well, you certainly do! The rest of us actually know how to sail.
I'm sure you could use your fenders quite effectively! YOU WIN
AGAIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


Is there no end to Ganzy's lack of sailing brains?
You don't need a liferaft for a multi? Bwahahhaahahahaha!

Okay ganzy!

RB