So explain to us, if you will, how many cruising cats have sunk on the
Bermuda
run.


neither one.

Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need? Do I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB, should the
boat have refrigeration?


According to Ganzy...just a hollow shell with a single pipe berth and a case of
Yoohoos! Be a REAL sailor!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

Ummm... no thanks... God be with you...

"MC" wrote in message
...
If you believe that you need a bible...

Cheers

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.

wrote in message
...

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:46:28 +1300, MC wrote:


None of those are absolute but you will need a sextant or GPS and
charts
(paper). The following are essential IMHO: EPIRB, hand held VHF,
flares,
grab bag and raft (or inflateable dinghy to be carried inflated on
deck). Add to that your own CO2 life vest with harness which has a
strobe light and whistle attached. You can clip the handheld VHF to it
too. Proper wet weather gear (say Musto offshore). Some good books and
music. Enough food and water for 2x the anticipated trip duration. Baby
wipes. Skin cream, sun block. Log book. Emergency nav lights. Bolt
cutters. Axe. Hacksaw. Pop rivet gun. Drill and bits. Spare sheets.
Storm jib/sails. Life lines. Harness lines. That'll do for starters.



A good list, except that a dinghy is generally not interchangable with a
liferaft. Sometimes a dinghy is all you have, but a purpose specific

liferaft is

a much better choice if you have to abandon ship for any reason.

BB


Cheers

John Cairns wrote:


Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need?

Do I

need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB,

should the

boat have refrigeration?
John Cairns

Boy are you vying for beating about booby for the stupid win!

wrote in message
news
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:14 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:

Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


Boy are you STUPID!

BB


wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 10:46:28 +1300, MC wrote:

None of those are absolute but you will need a sextant or GPS and
charts
(paper). The following are essential IMHO: EPIRB, hand held VHF,
flares,
grab bag and raft (or inflateable dinghy to be carried inflated on
deck). Add to that your own CO2 life vest with harness which has a
strobe light and whistle attached. You can clip the handheld VHF to it
too. Proper wet weather gear (say Musto offshore). Some good books and
music. Enough food and water for 2x the anticipated trip duration.
Baby
wipes. Skin cream, sun block. Log book. Emergency nav lights. Bolt
cutters. Axe. Hacksaw. Pop rivet gun. Drill and bits. Spare sheets.
Storm jib/sails. Life lines. Harness lines. That'll do for starters.



A good list, except that a dinghy is generally not interchangable with
a
liferaft. Sometimes a dinghy is all you have, but a purpose specific
liferaft is
a much better choice if you have to abandon ship for any reason.

BB

Cheers

John Cairns wrote:

Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely
need?
Do I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB,
should the
boat have refrigeration?
John Cairns

I think what you're trying to say is that one would still
want a liferaft even if one had a multi... English your
second language by chance?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


you don't need training wheels not to need an inflatable rubber saucer,
aka
liferaft.

OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 01:03:16 GMT,
scribbled thusly:


On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:03:14 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:


Get a multihull, then you don't need the liferaft.


Boy are you STUPID!

BB


Why?


How about:

http://www.abc.net.au/wa/summer/news...1/s1021359.htm

Cheers

OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:51:13 +1300, MC scribbled
thusly:

How about:

http://www.abc.net.au/wa/summer/news...1/s1021359.htm

Cheers


Yep, makes a valid point, the thing stayed afloat for 6 months!
try that in a mono!



Wonder why he abandonned it?

Cheers

Yes, you're RIGHT AGAIN! A real sailor doesn't need much to go sailing.
YOU WIN! How awsome! The only thing is... since you're the yoohoo,
you wouldn't fit on most boats...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need? Do
I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB, should
the
boat have refrigeration?


According to Ganzy...just a hollow shell with a single pipe berth and a
case of
Yoohoos! Be a REAL sailor!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

It is only 650 miles. That's four days.
Refridgeration always seems to break down
and ruin all your food. If you don't count
on it, it can't crap out on you. Bring rice,
pasta and, eggs, and a fishing pole.

Radar is nice for determining how far you
are from while making an approach. I suppose
a chart display will do that also. Both
together are reassuring.

You should have some long range communications
either an SSB that you know how to use, and
that works--many I've seen don't work and the
owners are cluesless that they don't, or
better--a sat-phone.

Also, and EPRIB is good.

I prefer foam lifejackets. It would not be
fun to find out in the middle of the ocean
that your inflatable doesn't work. If you
wear an inflatable, wear it outside of your
foulies.

Bart

"John Cairns" wrote

Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need? Do I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB, should the
boat have refrigeration?
John Cairns

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:31:38 -0500, "John Cairns"
wrote this crap:

Interested in some opinions here, what equipment do I absolutely need? Do I
need radar, do I need a GPS with a chartplotter, do I need a SSB, should the
boat have refrigeration?

Make sure you have enough battiers, for GPS, flashlights, radios, etc.

Make sure you have enough rum.




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