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and which of those boats is a 50 foot Bristol?

dude, lonny was writing fiction (hoping to soon get paid LOTS of money for his
"better than Nick Carter" novels?).

Well, look beyond google. First boat listing webpage I looked at found
some:


http://www.boats.com/listing/cache/l...jsp?searchPage
=%2Flisting%2Fcache%2Fquick_search.jsp&slim=quick& sm=3&searchtype=buy&bcin
t=4&is=false&man=Bristol&fromYear=&toYear=2005&fro mLength=48&toLength=52&l
uom=126&currencyid=100&fromP
rice=&toPrice=&psdistance=1&pszipcode=32259&ac=&a c=&spid=&Search.x=48&Sea
rch.y=6

"JAXAshby" wrote this idiot message
...

googling "Bristol 50" returns no results even remotely related to a 50
foot
center cockpit sailboat.

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The one I was on was a Ted Hood design. And had quite a few design flaws.

Lonny



DSK wrote in message ...
Jeff Morris wrote:

Bristol has built (and continues to build) a variety of custom boats, many of
the large, so they may well have built a 50. However, they are now building a
48, which is close enough for me:
http://www.bristolmarine.com/bristol48.htm

Ah yes, but Jeff, you're not a pettifogging ****-ant like MC and JAX.

It's a matter of taste but I don't like center cockpit designs, most of them sail
like a double decker bus. However there are a few, Moody and Bristol come to mind,
that are good sailing boats. IIRC Bristols were designed by either Alden or Ted
Hood.



"JAXAshby" wrote
googling "Bristol 50" returns no results even remotely related to a 50 foot
center cockpit sailboat.

So, everything you know about boats comes from Google? Maybe you can share some of
your expertise with Navvie?

DSK

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Well, you win!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
know you can win at knowing about
gayness,


Ganzy back to being GAY again!


RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
know you can win at knowing about
gayness,


Ganzy back to being GAY again!

Aren't you against homophobia?



Regards


Donal
--

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Kind of like J. Edgar Hoover I imagine.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
know you can win at knowing about
gayness,


Ganzy back to being GAY again!

Aren't you against homophobia?



Regards


Donal
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Doug has credibility and you have none.

(JAXAshby) wrote

doubie, I did St thomas to nyc last year, as well as Ft Lauderdale to
Charleston, as well as nyc to oriental. I would still be out there except I
had to return to deal with a business issue.

Seems to me that in a short time, on our trawler, my wife & I have been a
lot further, seen and done a lot more than you, Bubbles, and Jaxxie, ever
have in all your lives.

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I agree. It could have been cleared
without putting anyone in the water.
It was worth a try.

Bart

MC wrote

Correct. I have dived under boats in short seas (near reefs) and it is
very very dangerous. Sometimes just going hove to and using a boat hook
can work wonders.

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bart, you are a fool. dougie takes a single experience in 8 knots of wind on a
lake in a hunter 19 and generalizes it to include rounding the Horn in the dead
of winter. dougie has two weeks experience repeated again and again and again
for as long as he has seen water. He wouldn't know the Great Salt Pond from
the Great Salt Lake. but he reads a little, and hasn't yet noticed that there
are three books written about sailing, each one published under at least 100
titles by at least 100 authors.

what's more dougies reading comprehension is so low he to this day can't spot
poorly written fiction on lonny's part from a genuine account on anyone else's
part. next week dougie will be telling newbies that 45 knots winds against the
Stream will produce just 15 meter (nice touch, that use of the word meter, even
better had it been spelled metre) waves and that one can make 35 miles to the
good in 6 hours under such conditions (*you* did notice the distance and time
in lonny's manuscript, didn't you bart?)

Doug has credibility and you have none.

(JAXAshby) wrote

doubie, I did St thomas to nyc last year, as well as Ft Lauderdale to
Charleston, as well as nyc to oriental. I would still be out there except
I
had to return to deal with a business issue.

Seems to me that in a short time, on our trawler, my wife & I have been a
lot further, seen and done a lot more than you, Bubbles, and Jaxxie, ever
have in all your lives.

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bart, for the kristes sake, it was FICTION. There was no fishing net, no 50
foot Bristol, no 45 knot winds against the current.

Think about it, bart. how fast will a sailboat go with a fish wrapped around
its rudder enough that it impedes rudder movement.

geesh.

I agree. It could have been cleared
without putting anyone in the water.
It was worth a try.

Bart

MC wrote

Correct. I have dived under boats in short seas (near reefs) and it is
very very dangerous. Sometimes just going hove to and using a boat hook
can work wonders.

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At least they *found* the Stream.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bart, you are a fool. dougie takes a single experience in 8 knots of wind
on a
lake in a hunter 19 and generalizes it to include rounding the Horn in the
dead
of winter. dougie has two weeks experience repeated again and again and
again
for as long as he has seen water. He wouldn't know the Great Salt Pond
from
the Great Salt Lake. but he reads a little, and hasn't yet noticed that
there
are three books written about sailing, each one published under at least
100
titles by at least 100 authors.

what's more dougies reading comprehension is so low he to this day can't
spot
poorly written fiction on lonny's part from a genuine account on anyone
else's
part. next week dougie will be telling newbies that 45 knots winds
against the
Stream will produce just 15 meter (nice touch, that use of the word meter,
even
better had it been spelled metre) waves and that one can make 35 miles to
the
good in 6 hours under such conditions (*you* did notice the distance and
time
in lonny's manuscript, didn't you bart?)

Doug has credibility and you have none.

(JAXAshby) wrote

doubie, I did St thomas to nyc last year, as well as Ft Lauderdale to
Charleston, as well as nyc to oriental. I would still be out there
except
I
had to return to deal with a business issue.

Seems to me that in a short time, on our trawler, my wife & I have
been a
lot further, seen and done a lot more than you, Bubbles, and Jaxxie,
ever
have in all your lives.

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Depends , how big is the fish?
SV


"JAXAshby" wrote

Think about it, bart. how fast will a sailboat go with a fish wrapped
around
its rudder

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At least they *found* the Stream.


going from newport to bermuda, you will find the stream. where you find it is
open to question on any given day, but you will find it.

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JAXAshby ranted:

.... dougie has two weeks experience repeated again and again and again
for as long as he has seen water.

Apparently you know even less about my sailing experience than you do about
actually sailing.

... He wouldn't know the Great Salt Pond from
the Great Salt Lake...

Actually, it would be easy to tell the difference. If it was one of those
"blackened windows, no outside input" exercises, you could look at the boat's
waterline.... or drop a hard boiled egg in the water.

DSK

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wrote:

From inside the cabin with the windows blacked out, you suggest looking at the
waterline or dropping an egg in the water? Damn you're good!

Yes, I am.


I have news for
you. The waterline on the inside of the boat isn't going to tell you much,

Actually, if you wanted to, you could indeed see the waterline from inside the boat.
It might take a little preparation or a lack of squeamishness.

and
dropping an egg in the bilge (I assume that's the water you intended, unless you
meant dropping an egg in the holding tank) is going to smell pretty bad after a
few days.

Sorry, none of my boats usually have enough water in the bilge to cover an egg, so
that wasn't what I meant. Nor did I mean the holding tank, is that you favorite spot
to play on the boat? In any event, it would only take a second to tell whether you
were in the Great Salt Lake so the egg would be fine.

Have you ever sailed at Salt Lake City?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Doug asked: Have you ever sailed at Salt Lake City?

ugh....stinks...and shallow...and weird wind....



--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Do you think that some dirt is smarter than other dirt?

Scotty


wrote

and dumber than any dirt.

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Bob is smarter than Horass....

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Do you think that some dirt is smarter than other dirt?

Scotty


wrote

and dumber than any dirt.

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I see you didn't know the Bristol 50 after after all. What a toad.

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Jeff Morris wrote:


Bristol has built (and continues to build) a variety of custom boats, many of
the large, so they may well have built a 50. However, they are now building a
48, which is close enough for me:
http://www.bristolmarine.com/bristol48.htm


Ah yes, but Jeff, you're not a pettifogging ****-ant like MC and JAX.

It's a matter of taste but I don't like center cockpit designs, most of them sail
like a double decker bus. However there are a few, Moody and Bristol come to mind,
that are good sailing boats. IIRC Bristols were designed by either Alden or Ted
Hood.

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DSK wrote:


JAXAshby wrote:


"Your search - "sailboats with that sissy footwell" - did not match any
documents."


Odd, there were at least as many of those as there were 50' Bristol center
cockpit sloops.

I bet a search for "JAXAshby's sailing skill & knowledge" would come up
blank, too. Or if you prefer mathematical terms, the empty set.


I don't think so. He's been known to sail. Tell us about your offshore
experiences?

Cheers

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DSK wrote:

wrote:


And it "is" a double decker bus. Dougy keeps telling anyone who will
listen that he doesn't like center cockpit sailboats because "they
don't sail well". Someone should tell him that trawlers don't sail at
all.


Shucks all this time I thought they did.

Seems to me that in a short time, on our trawler, my wife & I have been a
lot further, seen and done a lot more than you, Bubbles, and Jaxxie, ever
have in all your lives.


Good lord.

Cheers

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DSK wrote:

JAXAshby ranted:


.... dougie has two weeks experience repeated again and again and again
for as long as he has seen water.


Apparently you know even less about my sailing experience than you do about
actually sailing.


... He wouldn't know the Great Salt Pond from
the Great Salt Lake...


Actually, it would be easy to tell the difference. If it was one of those
"blackened windows, no outside input" exercises, you could look at the boat's
waterline.... or drop a hard boiled egg in the water.


Hey Doug, why don't you reread what you just posted and engage that
mighty intellect of yours?

Cheers

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wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:47:38 -0500, DSK wrote:



wrote:


From inside the cabin with the windows blacked out, you suggest looking at the
waterline or dropping an egg in the water? Damn you're good!

Yes, I am.



I have news for
you. The waterline on the inside of the boat isn't going to tell you much,

Actually, if you wanted to, you could indeed see the waterline from inside the boat.
It might take a little preparation or a lack of squeamishness.


and
dropping an egg in the bilge (I assume that's the water you intended, unless you
meant dropping an egg in the holding tank) is going to smell pretty bad after a
few days.

Sorry, none of my boats usually have enough water in the bilge to cover an egg, so
that wasn't what I meant. Nor did I mean the holding tank, is that you favorite spot
to play on the boat? In any event, it would only take a second to tell whether you
were in the Great Salt Lake so the egg would be fine.

Have you ever sailed at Salt Lake City?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


You really are thicker than any post, and dumber than any dirt. No wonder you
had to give up sailing and buy a pretend tugboat with a fake smoke stack.


Perhaps he could get it smoking with some inseed oil soaked cotten rags?

Cheers

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JAXAshby wrote:

Doug no longer sails. The "man" now owns a trawler fer cripes sake.


got so old and decrepid he became frightened of tippy boats?

I think he and his wife got too fat for dinghies.

Cheers

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Lonny wrote:

Yes, that looks like the vessel. I remember it drawing 11' with the board down.



S'funny that's a new boat it says. Was your Bristol brand new?

Cheers

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JAXAshby wrote:

and which of those boats is a 50 foot Bristol?

dude, lonny was writing fiction (hoping to soon get paid LOTS of money for his
"better than Nick Carter" novels?).



No, he couldn't mistaken be 'cos Doug says he knows the boat and it's
"nice".

Cheers

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JAXAshby wrote:

Doug no longer sails. The "man" now owns a trawler fer cripes sake.


got so old and decrepid he became frightened of tippy boats?

Perhaps Doug was always old and decrepid (he coils the excess string at
the head of his guitar)?

Cheers

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Bob never makes mistakes beacuse to make a mistake, first you have to
try to do something.

PDW

In article , Jonathan Ganz
wrote:

Bob... are you listening???

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Lonny admitted:
Some of my experiences
include mistakes.

Like this isn't the human condition? Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

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That's right. He just lies.

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Bob never makes mistakes beacuse to make a mistake, first you have to
try to do something.

PDW

In article , Jonathan Ganz
wrote:

Bob... are you listening???

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Lonny admitted:
Some of my experiences
include mistakes.

Like this isn't the human condition? Anyone who says otherwise is a
liar.

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MC wrote:



JAXAshby wrote:

I was helping a friend move his 50' center cockpit sloop from Rhode
Island to Bermuda one fall a few years ago.


What kind?



It was a Bristol.




googling "Bristol 50" returns no results even remotely related to a 50
foot
center cockpit sailboat.


Hey Doug, why not help us out and identify the boat as you say you know
what it is.


The lack of response to this most reasonable requests is most revealing.

Cheers

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Salt lake _City_ is not where the locals sail -is it?

Cheers

katysails wrote:

Doug asked: Have you ever sailed at Salt Lake City?

ugh....stinks...and shallow...and weird wind....

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MC queried:=20
Salt lake _City_ is not where the locals sail -is it?

No...they sail in the Great Salt Lake, not the city....the city is very =
arid...would be hard to get a boat down one of the streets.
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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The city does border the lake - this marina is in the city - but I think the
lake itself is not part of the city.
http://www.gslcruises.com/Concessions/concessions.html

However, after the novelty wears off, its not a very pleasant place. I hope
they have some alternative.


"katysails" wrote in message
...
MC queried:
Salt lake _City_ is not where the locals sail -is it?

No...they sail in the Great Salt Lake, not the city....the city is very
arid...would be hard to get a boat down one of the streets.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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That's what I suspected.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

MC queried:
Salt lake _City_ is not where the locals sail -is it?

No...they sail in the Great Salt Lake, not the city....the city is very arid...would be hard to get a boat down one of the streets.

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http://www.gslcruises.com/Concessions/concessions.html


Best to take the happy hour cruise...make sure you drink enough to =
deaden any senses you have....and wear a surgical mask or a =
filter....the marina I visited was on the island off the causeway and I =
believe was run by the state park system. Was pretty nasty...
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein